Linux Plumbers ACPI/PM, PCI Microconference

2013-07-16 Thread Myron Stowe
Linux Plumbers has approved an ACPI/PM, PCI microconference. The
overview page is here:

http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:pci_subsystem

We would like to start receiving volunteers for presenting topics of
interest.  There is a lot of activity in these subsystems so please
respond by submitting presentation or discussion proposals that you
would be willing to cover for consideration.  You should also feel
free to submit ideas as proposals that others could cover.  The
instructions for submitting ideas should be at:

http://www.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013/submitting-topic/

This is the "Plumbers" conference so topics concerning userspace
interaction with the kernel and not just topics concerning pure kernel
subsystem internals would be greatly welcomed.  As a possible aid
towards promoting topics for submissions we have listed a few
candidates that seem to meet the criteria in the microconference
proposals wiki located at
http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:pci_subsystem

Last year, we had a good discussion on general issues in PCI space -
that also might be worth giving updates on.

If you have topics that you would like to add, wait until the
instructions get posted at the link above. If you are impatient, feel
free to email me directly (but probably best to drop the broad mailing
lists from the reply).

Thanks!

Len, Bjorn, Myron, Rafael



Yinghai - An update on host bridge hot-add capabilities, what is in
place and what still remains to be done, would seem like a good topic.

Shuah - You brought up the idea about "Converting drivers from Legacy
PM ops to dev_pm_ops"; would you like to present what you have
done/encountered so far?
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2013 Linux Plumbers ACPI/PM, PCI Microconference proposal call for participaton

2013-04-18 Thread Myron Stowe
All:

We would like to hold a combined ACPI/PM, PCI focused microconference
as part of this year's Linux Plumbers conference but first we need to
show that there is enough interest and material that needs covered.

There is a lot of activity in these subsystems so please respond by
submitting presentation or discussion proposals that you would be
willing to cover for consideration (respond to this mail on the
linux-pci list for tracking purposes please).  You should also feel
free to submit ideas as proposals that others could cover.  This is
the "Plumbers" conference so topics concerning userspace interaction
with the kernel and not just topics concerning pure kernel subsystem
internals would be greatly welcomed.

The initial call[1] only produced two responses.  We understand that
everyone is busy but without proposals the program committee will not
be able to select this topic for approval - so please step up.


If approved by the program committee, we will give precedence to
proposals that bring up current issues that need attention, help, or
resolution.  We would like for the majority of the microconference to
be "working session discussions" in which a current issues in/with the
ACPI/PM and PCI subsystem space that needs solving are introduced and
then opened up for live discussion by attendees - much like what took
place last year during the Kernel Summit's PCI miniconf.

As a possible aid towards promoting topics for submissions we have
listed a few candidates that seem to meet the criteria in the
microconference proposals wiki located at
http://wiki.linuxplumbersconf.org/2013:pci_subsystem


Please feel free to forward this invitation on to any others, or
relevant lists, that seem appropriate.

Thanks,
  Len, Bjorn, Myron, Rafael


[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/3/7/315
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Re: [PATCH 0/4] PCI: Enable LTR/OBFF before device is used by driver

2012-06-08 Thread Myron Stowe
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Bjorn Helgaas  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:01 AM, Xudong Hao  wrote:
>> The series of patches enable LTR and OBFF before device is used by driver, 
>> and
>> introduce a couple of functions to save/restore LTR latency value.
>>
>> Patch 1/4 introduce new function pci_obff_supported() as pci_ltr_support().
>>
>> Patch 2/4 enable LTR(Latency tolerance reporting) before device is used by
>> driver.
>>
>> Patch 3/4 enable OBFF(optimized buffer flush/fill) before device is used by
>> driver.
>>
>> Patch 4/4 introduce a couple of functions pci_save_ltr_value() and
>> pci_restore_ltr_value() to save and restore LTR latency value, while device 
>> is
>> reset.
>
> We need some justification for these patches.  Why do we want them?
> Do they improve performance?  Reduce power consumption?  How have they
> been tested?  How can we be confident that these features work
> correctly on hardware in the field?  Should or could the BIOS enable
> them itself, based on OEM testing and desire to support these
> features?

I too am a little nervous about these changes due to Jesse's earlier response
(see http://marc.info/?l=linux-pci&m=133372610102933&w=2) where he indicated:
  "Given how device specific these extensions are, I'd expect you'd need
   to know about each specific device anyway, which is why I think the
   control belongs in the driver."

Having these features enabled by default may be too aggressive.  Not saying it
is not correct - something you may be able to inform us about, especially since
you are with Intel - just make me nervous without further information.

Myron

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