Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On 31 March 2014 20:57, Michael Roth wrote: > Agreed, though I feel a little weird about creating releases for tags that > aren't in the official repo. Would that be acceptable from a community > stand-point? I'm honestly not sure. > > Otherwise I think Anthony/Peter would probably still need to process a pull > for stable-y.x branch in advance before we do the tarball/release. Would > still help simplify things a bit though by keeping tasks compartmentalized. > > Anthony, Peter: in the past, prior to release, I just sent an email with > a pointer to my github branch with the stable release tagged. Would a proper > pull request (with a for-stable-x.y tag or somesuch) be preferable? The simplest approach seems to me to be giving you commit access to master so you can directly push release tags to it as part of making a release. thanks -- PMM -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
Quoting Andreas Färber (2014-03-31 09:46:45) > Am 31.03.2014 16:32, schrieb Peter Maydell: > > On 31 March 2014 15:28, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > >> I think it would be a good idea to separate the committer and release > >> manager roles. Peter is providing the community with a wonderful service, > >> just like you were; putting too much work on his shoulders risks getting us > >> in the same situation if anything were to affect his ability to provide it. > > > > Yes, I strongly agree with this. I think we'll do much better > > if we can manage to share out responsibilities among a wider > > group of people. > > May I propose Michael Roth, who is already experienced from the N-1 > stable releases? Sure, I would be willing. > > If we can enable him to upload the tarballs created from his tags that > would also streamline the stable workflow while at it. Agreed, though I feel a little weird about creating releases for tags that aren't in the official repo. Would that be acceptable from a community stand-point? I'm honestly not sure. Otherwise I think Anthony/Peter would probably still need to process a pull for stable-y.x branch in advance before we do the tarball/release. Would still help simplify things a bit though by keeping tasks compartmentalized. Anthony, Peter: in the past, prior to release, I just sent an email with a pointer to my github branch with the stable release tagged. Would a proper pull request (with a for-stable-x.y tag or somesuch) be preferable? If we opt to align the stable repo updates with the actual release, what kind of lead time would we need prior to actual release? > > Regards, > Andreas > > -- > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
Anthony Liguori writes: > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Andreas Färber wrote: >> Am 31.03.2014 16:32, schrieb Peter Maydell: >>> On 31 March 2014 15:28, Paolo Bonzini wrote: I think it would be a good idea to separate the committer and release manager roles. Peter is providing the community with a wonderful service, just like you were; putting too much work on his shoulders risks getting us in the same situation if anything were to affect his ability to provide it. >>> >>> Yes, I strongly agree with this. I think we'll do much better >>> if we can manage to share out responsibilities among a wider >>> group of people. >> >> May I propose Michael Roth, who is already experienced from the N-1 >> stable releases? >> >> If we can enable him to upload the tarballs created from his tags that >> would also streamline the stable workflow while at it. > > If mdroth is willing to take this on, I am very supportive. Another vote of confidence from me. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Andreas Färber wrote: > Am 31.03.2014 16:32, schrieb Peter Maydell: >> On 31 March 2014 15:28, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >>> I think it would be a good idea to separate the committer and release >>> manager roles. Peter is providing the community with a wonderful service, >>> just like you were; putting too much work on his shoulders risks getting us >>> in the same situation if anything were to affect his ability to provide it. >> >> Yes, I strongly agree with this. I think we'll do much better >> if we can manage to share out responsibilities among a wider >> group of people. > > May I propose Michael Roth, who is already experienced from the N-1 > stable releases? > > If we can enable him to upload the tarballs created from his tags that > would also streamline the stable workflow while at it. If mdroth is willing to take this on, I am very supportive. Regards, Anthony Liguori > > Regards, > Andreas > > -- > SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany > GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
Am 31.03.2014 16:32, schrieb Peter Maydell: > On 31 March 2014 15:28, Paolo Bonzini wrote: >> I think it would be a good idea to separate the committer and release >> manager roles. Peter is providing the community with a wonderful service, >> just like you were; putting too much work on his shoulders risks getting us >> in the same situation if anything were to affect his ability to provide it. > > Yes, I strongly agree with this. I think we'll do much better > if we can manage to share out responsibilities among a wider > group of people. May I propose Michael Roth, who is already experienced from the N-1 stable releases? If we can enable him to upload the tarballs created from his tags that would also streamline the stable workflow while at it. Regards, Andreas -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On 31 March 2014 15:28, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > I think it would be a good idea to separate the committer and release > manager roles. Peter is providing the community with a wonderful service, > just like you were; putting too much work on his shoulders risks getting us > in the same situation if anything were to affect his ability to provide it. Yes, I strongly agree with this. I think we'll do much better if we can manage to share out responsibilities among a wider group of people. thanks -- PMM -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
Il 31/03/2014 16:01, Anthony Liguori ha scritto: > "merge window" has been suggested before. I think it would be > a terrible idea for QEMU, personally. We're not the kernel in > many ways, notably dev community size and a greater tendency > to changes that have effects across the whole tree. > > Soft + hard freeze is our stabilization period currently. Peter, are you willing to do the tagging and announcement for the 2.0 rcs? I sent instructions privately and between stefanha and I we can get your permissions sorted out. I think it would be a good idea to separate the committer and release manager roles. Peter is providing the community with a wonderful service, just like you were; putting too much work on his shoulders risks getting us in the same situation if anything were to affect his ability to provide it. Paolo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 6:25 AM, Peter Maydell wrote: > On 31 March 2014 14:21, Christian Borntraeger wrote: >> Another thing might be the release process in general. Currently it seems >> that everybody tries to push everything just before the hard freeze. I had >> to debug some problems introduced _after_ soft freeze. Is there some >> interest in having a Linux-like process (merge window + stabilization)? This >> would require shorter release cycles of course. > > "merge window" has been suggested before. I think it would be > a terrible idea for QEMU, personally. We're not the kernel in > many ways, notably dev community size and a greater tendency > to changes that have effects across the whole tree. > > Soft + hard freeze is our stabilization period currently. Peter, are you willing to do the tagging and announcement for the 2.0 rcs? I sent instructions privately and between stefanha and I we can get your permissions sorted out. Regards, Anthony Liguori > thanks > -- PMM -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On 31/03/14 12:51, Andreas Färber wrote: > Hi, > > Am 31.03.2014 12:40, schrieb Juan Quintela: >> >> Please, send any topic that you are interested in covering. > > I would like to discuss the state of the QEMU release process, please: > > * -rc1 has not been tagged. > * Who besides Anthony could upload a tarball if we tag and create it? > * make-release fix for SeaBIOS on the list. Ping, and are more affected? +1 for this one. Another thing might be the release process in general. Currently it seems that everybody tries to push everything just before the hard freeze. I had to debug some problems introduced _after_ soft freeze. Is there some interest in having a Linux-like process (merge window + stabilization)? This would require shorter release cycles of course. Christian -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On 31 March 2014 14:21, Christian Borntraeger wrote: > Another thing might be the release process in general. Currently it seems > that everybody tries to push everything just before the hard freeze. I had > to debug some problems introduced _after_ soft freeze. Is there some > interest in having a Linux-like process (merge window + stabilization)? This > would require shorter release cycles of course. "merge window" has been suggested before. I think it would be a terrible idea for QEMU, personally. We're not the kernel in many ways, notably dev community size and a greater tendency to changes that have effects across the whole tree. Soft + hard freeze is our stabilization period currently. thanks -- PMM -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 12:51:31PM +0200, Andreas Färber wrote: > Am 31.03.2014 12:40, schrieb Juan Quintela: > > > > Please, send any topic that you are interested in covering. > > I would like to discuss the state of the QEMU release process, please: > > * -rc1 has not been tagged. > * Who besides Anthony could upload a tarball if we tag and create it? > * make-release fix for SeaBIOS on the list. Ping, and are more affected? +1 Stefan -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for 2014-04-01
Hi, Am 31.03.2014 12:40, schrieb Juan Quintela: > > Please, send any topic that you are interested in covering. I would like to discuss the state of the QEMU release process, please: * -rc1 has not been tagged. * Who besides Anthony could upload a tarball if we tag and create it? * make-release fix for SeaBIOS on the list. Ping, and are more affected? Thanks, Andreas -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer; HRB 16746 AG Nürnberg -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
