RE: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched vmcs12 for L1 VMM

2012-11-28 Thread Xu, Dongxiao
> -Original Message-
> From: Orit Wasserman [mailto:owass...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 8:30 PM
> To: Marcelo Tosatti
> Cc: Xu, Dongxiao; kvm@vger.kernel.org; g...@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched 
> vmcs12
> for L1 VMM
> 
> On 11/28/2012 02:29 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:51:59PM +0800, Dongxiao Xu wrote:
> >> The launch state is not a member in the VMCS area, use a separate
> >> variable (list) to store it instead.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Dongxiao Xu 
> >
> > 1. What is the problem with keeping launched state in the VMCS?
> > Assuming there is a positive answer to the above:
> >
> > 2. Don't you have to change VMCS ID?
> >
> > 3. Can't it be kept somewhere else other than a list? Current scheme
> > allows guest to allocate unlimited amounts of host memory.
> I agree with Marcelo you have to limit the number of VMCS in the list 
> otherwise
> it will be easy to attack a host with nested :)

Yes it is a point. I will add a limitation of the VMCS number for the guest VMM.

Thanks,
Dongxiao

> >
> > 4. What is the state of migration / nested vmx again? If vmcs12 is
> > migrated, this means launched state is not migrated anymore.
> >
> > Patches 1-3 seem fine.
> >
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RE: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched vmcs12 for L1 VMM

2012-11-28 Thread Xu, Dongxiao
> -Original Message-
> From: Gleb Natapov [mailto:g...@redhat.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 7:28 PM
> To: Marcelo Tosatti
> Cc: Xu, Dongxiao; kvm@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched 
> vmcs12
> for L1 VMM
> 
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:29:08PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:51:59PM +0800, Dongxiao Xu wrote:
> > > The launch state is not a member in the VMCS area, use a separate
> > > variable (list) to store it instead.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Dongxiao Xu 
> >
> > 1. What is the problem with keeping launched state in the VMCS?
> > Assuming there is a positive answer to the above:
> >
> > 2. Don't you have to change VMCS ID?
> >
> > 3. Can't it be kept somewhere else other than a list? Current scheme
> > allows guest to allocate unlimited amounts of host memory.
> >
> > 4. What is the state of migration / nested vmx again? If vmcs12 is
> > migrated, this means launched state is not migrated anymore.
> >
> > Patches 1-3 seem fine.
> According to Dongxiao they are slowing down nested guest by 4%.

For this version, it will introduce certain performance downgrade. 

Actually in my new patch, I simplified the vmcs12_read() and vmcs12_write() 
functions and there is no obvious performance downgrade.

Thanks,
Dongxiao

> 
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Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched vmcs12 for L1 VMM

2012-11-28 Thread Orit Wasserman
On 11/28/2012 02:29 AM, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:51:59PM +0800, Dongxiao Xu wrote:
>> The launch state is not a member in the VMCS area, use a separate
>> variable (list) to store it instead.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Dongxiao Xu 
> 
> 1. What is the problem with keeping launched state in the VMCS?
> Assuming there is a positive answer to the above:
> 
> 2. Don't you have to change VMCS ID?
> 
> 3. Can't it be kept somewhere else other than a list? Current scheme 
> allows guest to allocate unlimited amounts of host memory.
I agree with Marcelo you have to limit the number of VMCS in the list otherwise
it will be easy to attack a host with nested :)
> 
> 4. What is the state of migration / nested vmx again? If vmcs12 is
> migrated, this means launched state is not migrated anymore.
> 
> Patches 1-3 seem fine.
> 
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Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched vmcs12 for L1 VMM

2012-11-28 Thread Gleb Natapov
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:29:08PM -0200, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:51:59PM +0800, Dongxiao Xu wrote:
> > The launch state is not a member in the VMCS area, use a separate
> > variable (list) to store it instead.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Dongxiao Xu 
> 
> 1. What is the problem with keeping launched state in the VMCS?
> Assuming there is a positive answer to the above:
> 
> 2. Don't you have to change VMCS ID?
> 
> 3. Can't it be kept somewhere else other than a list? Current scheme 
> allows guest to allocate unlimited amounts of host memory.
> 
> 4. What is the state of migration / nested vmx again? If vmcs12 is
> migrated, this means launched state is not migrated anymore.
> 
> Patches 1-3 seem fine.
According to Dongxiao they are slowing down nested guest by 4%.

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Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] nested vmx: use a list to store the launched vmcs12 for L1 VMM

2012-11-27 Thread Marcelo Tosatti
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:51:59PM +0800, Dongxiao Xu wrote:
> The launch state is not a member in the VMCS area, use a separate
> variable (list) to store it instead.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Dongxiao Xu 

1. What is the problem with keeping launched state in the VMCS?
Assuming there is a positive answer to the above:

2. Don't you have to change VMCS ID?

3. Can't it be kept somewhere else other than a list? Current scheme 
allows guest to allocate unlimited amounts of host memory.

4. What is the state of migration / nested vmx again? If vmcs12 is
migrated, this means launched state is not migrated anymore.

Patches 1-3 seem fine.

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