Un-googlable

2008-08-16 Thread David Abrahams

Serious question: has anyone considered changing the name of this
project?  Finding information about kvm on the web is extremely
frustrating due to the enormous number of pages related to KVM switches
and the heavily overlapping target audience (people who want to run
multiple OSes).  I figure a name change would be good for reducing the
developer support burden as well as for your users.

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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-16 Thread Glauber Costa
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 9:27 PM, David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Serious question: has anyone considered changing the name of this
> project?  Finding information about kvm on the web is extremely
> frustrating due to the enormous number of pages related to KVM switches
> and the heavily overlapping target audience (people who want to run
> multiple OSes).  I figure a name change would be good for reducing the
> developer support burden as well as for your users.

I don't think it is such a big issue. The first time I googled for any
kvm-specific info,
I got frustrated, that's true. But then I just started typing "Kernel
Virtual Machine", and everything
went fine.

Furthermore, we're not the first word with (at least) double meaning
in the world.
At least there's (apearantly) no porn meaning for it.

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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-16 Thread David Abrahams

on Sat Aug 16 2008, "Glauber Costa"  wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 9:27 PM, David Abrahams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Serious question: has anyone considered changing the name of this
>> project?  Finding information about kvm on the web is extremely
>> frustrating due to the enormous number of pages related to KVM switches
>> and the heavily overlapping target audience (people who want to run
>> multiple OSes).  I figure a name change would be good for reducing the
>> developer support burden as well as for your users.
>
> I don't think it is such a big issue. The first time I googled for any
> kvm-specific info,
> I got frustrated, that's true. But then I just started typing "Kernel
> Virtual Machine", and everything
> went fine.

Really, everyone types out that long phrase when asking questions?
Seems somehow unlikely (notice that I didn't).  That said, I'll be
trying that next.

> Furthermore, we're not the first word with (at least) double meaning
> in the world.

No, but as I said, the target audience (and application area) overlaps
so heavily that even adding other relevant search terms usually doesn't
eliminate the chaff.

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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-17 Thread Avi Kivity

David Abrahams wrote:

Serious question: has anyone considered changing the name of this
project?  


Yes.


Finding information about kvm on the web is extremely
frustrating due to the enormous number of pages related to KVM switches
and the heavily overlapping target audience (people who want to run
multiple OSes).  I figure a name change would be good for reducing the
developer support burden as well as for your users.
  


In many ways kvm is a horrible choice.  I'm not sure a name change is 
possible at this stage, though.


I've thought of 'slice' (which rhymes nicely with some Qumranet 
products, and so may not be the first choice for other kvm developers), 
but that may not be the googliest name either.


Perhaps one day the distinction between kvm and linux will disappear, 
and the hypervisor will be known simply as 'Linux'.


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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-17 Thread john cooper

David Abrahams wrote:

on Sat Aug 16 2008, "Glauber Costa"  wrote:

Furthermore, we're not the first word with (at least) double meaning
in the world.


No, but as I said, the target audience (and application area) overlaps
so heavily that even adding other relevant search terms usually doesn't
eliminate the chaff.


I seem to recall from back when some half-baked
software known as "windows" which was introduced
by that name despite existing software at the
time using the same moniker.  Doesn't appear to
have impacted its viral propagation in the world
too much.

Give it some time.  I think it is a safe bet for
the hypervisor by that name to be more ubiquitous
than the like named console multiplexer box.

-john

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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-18 Thread David Abrahams

on Sat Aug 16 2008, Avi Kivity  wrote:

> In many ways kvm is a horrible choice.  I'm not sure a name change is
> possible at this stage, though.
>
> I've thought of 'slice' (which rhymes nicely with some Qumranet
> products, and so may not be the first choice for other kvm
> developers), but that may not be the googliest name either.

No, and I can't claim to have come up with anything apt.

> Perhaps one day the distinction between kvm and linux will disappear,
> and the hypervisor will be known simply as 'Linux'.

Thanks for a thoughtful answer, Avi.

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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-18 Thread Alberto TreviƱo
On Saturday 16 August 2008 06:45:55 pm David Abrahams wrote:
> on Sat Aug 16 2008, "Glauber Costa"  wrote:
> Really, everyone types out that long phrase when asking questions?

No, I type "kernel kvm" or do "kvm -switch" to remove pages that talk about 
KVM switches.  I have also thought the name to be unfortunate, but you just 
need to ask Google a better question.
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Re: Un-googlable

2008-08-19 Thread Jurrit de Vries
David Abrahams wrote:
> Serious question: has anyone considered changing the name of this
> project?  Finding information about kvm on the web is extremely
> frustrating due to the enormous number of pages related to KVM switches
> and the heavily overlapping target audience (people who want to run
> multiple OSes).  

Try this: http://www.google.com/linux

Jurrit
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