Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 available

2012-01-23 Thread Lior Kaplan
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andras Timar  wrote:

> 2012/1/23 Mihkel Tõnnov :
> > 2012/1/23 Andras Timar 
> >
> >> Release builds (RCs) don't have keyID langpacks. Only betas have them.
> >>
> >
> > It would be useful if they did, though -- at least for me, and I suppose
> > for Lior, and possibly others as well.
>
> It is not set in stone, we can change it for 3.6. My thought was that
> KeyIDs would be confusing to end-users.
>

I would prefer it to be in the 3.5 branch after the split to 3.5.0 branch
tomorrow.

We keep doing translation updates even between RCs, even if they will enter
the next minor release. For some of these change we need the KeyID builds.

Kaplan

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-23 Thread alan . monfort
Hello,

For breton language, we use DD/MM for the short pattern, DD/MM/YY or DD/MM/YY 
for the developped one.
Many thanks.
Best regards
Alan



For Estonian, please add the officially correct incomplete date pattern
"D.M" and also some which are technically not correct, but which are used
nevertheless (and I don't think they'd conflict with anything, so it
shouldn't hurt): "D. M", "D.M.", "D. M.".

Best regards,
Mihkel

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 available

2012-01-23 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
2012/1/23 Andras Timar 

> 2012/1/23 Mihkel Tõnnov :
> > 2012/1/23 Andras Timar 
> >
> >> Release builds (RCs) don't have keyID langpacks. Only betas have them.
> >>
> >
> > It would be useful if they did, though -- at least for me, and I suppose
> > for Lior, and possibly others as well.
>
> It is not set in stone, we can change it for 3.6. My thought was that
> KeyIDs would be confusing to end-users.
>

It probably would be indeed. I guess it would make sense to hide key-ID
packages on download page, but list them alongside others on
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ or such -- I think that
listing listing would confuse end-users anyway :P

Regards,
Mihkel

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 available

2012-01-23 Thread Andras Timar
2012/1/23 Mihkel Tõnnov :
> 2012/1/23 Andras Timar 
>
>> Release builds (RCs) don't have keyID langpacks. Only betas have them.
>>
>
> It would be useful if they did, though -- at least for me, and I suppose
> for Lior, and possibly others as well.

It is not set in stone, we can change it for 3.6. My thought was that
KeyIDs would be confusing to end-users.

> (Frankly I don't really understand why have RC1 and RC2 at all if it's
> planned that they are not going to be final in any case. Why not name them
> beta 4 and 5, resp?)

Because we need to test release configuration well.

Best regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 available

2012-01-23 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
2012/1/23 Andras Timar 

> Release builds (RCs) don't have keyID langpacks. Only betas have them.
>

It would be useful if they did, though -- at least for me, and I suppose
for Lior, and possibly others as well.
(Frankly I don't really understand why have RC1 and RC2 at all if it's
planned that they are not going to be final in any case. Why not name them
beta 4 and 5, resp?)

Regards,
Mihkel
et team

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-23 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
For Estonian, please add the officially correct incomplete date pattern
"D.M" and also some which are technically not correct, but which are used
nevertheless (and I don't think they'd conflict with anything, so it
shouldn't hurt): "D. M", "D.M.", "D. M.".

Best regards,
Mihkel

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-23 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Zeki,

On Saturday, 2012-01-21 00:01:45 +0200, Zeki Bildirici wrote:

> D.M
> D/M
> D-M
> should be all fine for tr-TR (Turkish). The common seperator is "."
> but there is not a rule for it so any seperator can be used.

Added
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=2d8a5940a0369127602fcc6144e9c31aae4917bd

> I checked MS Excel and all the above are completed fine.

I think (not sure) Excel does that for all locales, as we did before,
leading to the same annoyances.

Thanks
  Eike

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-23 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Harri,

On Friday, 2012-01-20 19:11:00 +0200, Harri Pitkänen wrote:

> For Finnish (fi_FI) please add "D.M.", I don't think other abbreviated 
> formats 
> are used here.

Added
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=49e685663146b9ad59a47cfaf9cf499fc6a6b937

Thanks
  Eike

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-23 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Niklas,

On Friday, 2012-01-20 17:01:24 +0100, Niklas Johansson wrote:

> When looking closer at the date- and time-formats for sv_SE I find a
> lot of duplicates of -MM-DD
> and YY-MM-DD. There are a few lets say  questionable formats there
> as well. When it comes to time-
> formats. I really hope we at least can have HH.MM and MM.SS

As said, there can be only one TimeSeparator that is recognized by the
input scanner, which currently is ':', you may change that to '.' and
need to adapt at least the format codes that are used to edit existing
values, see current locale.dtd for details.

If you don't want to change the TimeSeparator you can still add HH.MM or
MM.SS formats to the already existing (use formatindex above 50 for
that), but those wouldn't be used to edit times, which may confuse
users.

> Is it possible not to turn inputs on format MM.DD into dates in
> Calc.

If there is no M.D DateAcceptancePattern defined then such input will
not yield a date. This was the main point of the change :)

> It is much more likely that it is
> supposed to be a time value HH.MM?

Would be recognized as time only if the TimeSeparator would be '.'
instead of ':'

> MM-DD is good to have accepted though. Not really sure if it's
> possible.

With DateAcceptancePattern M-D yes.

> I will have a closer look at the current formats and discuss them
> locally. But that might take some
> time so. I appended a few formats to the sv_SE.xml do you want a
> patch, or how should i proceed?

Yes, a patch diff would be appreciated.

  Eike

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[libreoffice-l10n] REMINDER: Release 3.5.0-rc2 from libreoffice-3-5 branch

2012-01-23 Thread Petr Mladek
Hi,

please note that the commit deadline for 3.5.0-rc2 is today, January 23,
2012.

The branch libreoffice-3-5-0 is going to be created the day after. It
will be used for 3.5.0-rc3 that should be 3.5.0-final. Only commits
with 3 reviewers will be allowed for that branch.

See also
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan#3.5_release
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches


Best Regards,
Petr


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.0 RC1 pre-available

2012-01-23 Thread Petr Mladek
Luc Castermans píše v Čt 19. 01. 2012 v 17:45 +0100:
> Just yesterday installed beta3, today rc1. Where/how can I find out
> the differences ?

All commit summaries are listed at
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/commit-log-libreoffice-3-5-release-3.5.0.1.log

The commits with associated bug numbers are listed at 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-5-release-3.5.0.1.log


Best Regards,
Petr


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[libreoffice-l10n] Help for fdo#35125 - "GETPIVOTDATA Datapilot - Enhance Help Section Manual - L10N"

2012-01-23 Thread Tom Hart

Hello,
can someone please take a look at:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35125
GETPIVOTDATA Datapilot - Enhance Help Section Manual - L10N


The Problem might be here, that the english help text differs from the 
non-english localized texts (see comment #1 and #9). So a centralized 
translation from the english "original" might not be possible here.


Any ideas?

Thanks
Tom


PS:
I'm the reporter of the bug ("famo" on fdo).


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