Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Problems with libreoffice.ee

2013-10-04 Thread Mihkel Tõnnov
2013/10/3 Heiki Repentinus Ojasild repenti...@fsfe.org

 [snip]

  updated. However, since libreoffice.ee http://libreoffice.ee does have
  useful info in Estonian for users, I would still like to provide a link
  to it somewhere on et.libreoffice.org http://et.libreoffice.org,
  although this time with a disclaimer.

 Personally, I would recommend against that. The site can easily be found
 using a search engine. Furthermore, in addition to the freedom issues
 already presented, there has been a lot of talk in some Estonian free
 software circles that the site is not maintained to a level that would
 make it useful.


Okay, but then wouldn't it be good to make it clear that libreoffice.ee is
not in any way affiliated with TDF? Otherwise the (lack of) relationship
between et.libreoffice.org and libreoffice.ee would be confusing in my
opinion.

 Would that resolve a part of the problem here?

 If I have understood correctly that TDF does not actually play any part
 in the maintenance of this site and simply directed people there, and
 this redirect has now ended, then I consider the issue, as it relates to
 TDF, solved.


Well, actually TDF did not even direct people there, that was my decision,
as I said, because I thought it would be beneficial for users.
But yes, that site has no connection to TDF (afaik).

 Perhaps it would help if you, as a representative of FSFE, contacted the
  managers of libreoffice.ee http://libreoffice.ee, perhaps they are
  more motivated to reply to FSFE than to a mere translator.

 First, I would gladly contact the managers of this site. Could you send
 _me_ an e-mail with their contact details and a _brief_ overview of the
 site's background (who? what? why?).


Sure, but I don't really know that much about it.

Second, localisation is of paramount importance, so you are not a mere
 translator – you are a translator doing a bunch of great work to make it
 possible for more than one million people to use LibreOffice in their
 native language, and you are helping to ensure the continuity of
 cultural wealth the world knows as languages.


Well, I forgot to add sarcasm tags around mere translator :)

Best Regards,
Mihkel

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language

2013-10-04 Thread Krunoslav Šebetić
I'm willing to do it for Croatian - what should be my next move? Signup 
to Transifex and translate Askbot?


Thanks, Kruno

On 10/03/2013 10:27 AM, Olivier Hallot wrote:

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Hi Community (cross-posting on purpose)

We are in position to deploy AskBot for LibreOffice (AB4LO) in many
languages.

Those individuals interested to moderate the Askbot for LibreOffice in
his own language are invited to step forward.

(We will not deploy an AB4LO instance without at least one moderator.)

My experience as moderator for AB4LO in pt-BR is less than 5 minutes
/day, and the rate of new questions is about 2 new question/days and 2
new answers/day. Your mileage may vary, depending on how active is your
national/language community. As example, you can check the pt-BR site at

http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/

Note: I had to complete the translation of the AB4LO web interface
myself. I had to get a login in transifex and finish the job. Other
languages are in incomplete state too. The list of available languages
is at this link:

https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/askbot/

You may coordinate with your translator to get it completed.

Why AskBot ?

* There were several demands to deploy means of community
intercommunication other than mailing list.

* To get help thru mailing list, the process is to subscribe/confirm
subscription/write mail to ask/wait response/get flood of unwanted other
messages/unsubscribe/confirm unsubscription. This is too much 1990'ish.

* AB4LO allows you to quickly ask for help, and get responses from your
community. Unlike forums, AB4LO is aimed to establish a knowledge base
on LibreOffice in your language and provides tools to search for a given
subject quickly.

* AB4LO is not suited to debates and discussions. Prefer the mailing
lists for that purpose.

* Askbot also allows you to login thru your OpenId credentials, such as
Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc... Chances are that your users will use
it frequently.

* You also don't get e-mails unless you ask for in your profile.

*My experience with AB4LO in pt-BR*

As I said, I get 5 minute work as moderator. Most of the job is to edit
the question and put in a format of a question seeking answers. I also
narrow the tags for a better search. Sometimes people put Basic code in
the details and I care to have it well rendered with the internal AB4LO
editor tool.

I had to close some questions on subjects unrelated to LibreOffice.
Almost no spam so far.

Some answers had to be demoted to comment and some comments had to be
promoted to answer.

The kind of questions asked has a good indication on the difficulties
users have with LO and tells a lot about the user and the community.

As moderator, you are not obliged to answers users questions.

We strongly advertize Askbot for LibreOffice in many of our local
communications.

So, what are you waiting for? Get AB4LO now!!!

Kind regards

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[libreoffice-l10n] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.6 RC1 available

2013-10-04 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of LibreOffice 4.0.6, a second release candidate is
scheduled in two weeks)
The upcoming 4.0.6 will be the last planned bugfix release of the 4.0 codeline.

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.0#4.0.6_release

Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.6 RC1 is not been flagged as ready
for production use yet, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.5 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.6 RC1 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.6/RC1

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

On behalf of the Community,

Christian

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