Fwd: [libreoffice-l10n] Number of locale users?
Hi all, Wouldn't the most obvious thing be to add a Piwik server to our web infrastructure and start picking up some detailed statistics about both downloads but also user behaviour in general? From my point of view that would be the most simple solution. Cheers, Leif Lodahl 2014-10-13 14:51 GMT+02:00 Mihovil Stanic libreoff...@miho.im: Hi Christian, If I understood you correctly, you already have all data, you just didn't setup infrastructure to collect them (IP geolocation and UI locale from header). When/If you ever decide to collect that data, I don't think real user number can diviate much from that. Default setup are weekly pings. My guess is that very few people change that, it cannot be more then 1-2%. If you calculate your data on weekly (monday to sunday) basis, after few months of collecting data, you should know inside few % of statistical error what is your user count. Only big difference in numbers can be with large deployments behind firewall (government?), which will block all ping update requests. Anyway, do I need to suggest this somewhere or open an bug? Best regards, Mihovil 13.10.2014 u 14:34, Christian Lohmaier je napisao/la: Hi *, ... i.e. it would be possible to create in future reports for * geolocation * UI-locale from request-header but not * list of actually installed locales for that the BundledLanguages parameter would need to change or additional one would have to be introduced. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Number of locale users?
We have decided to avoid releasing download figures, and use update figures instead (which need some number crunching by developers: last figure was 80 million if unique IPs pinging for updates, but goes back to late spring). Download figures are not representative of the level of adoption, and in addition are extremely easy to tweak. SourceForge, for instance, is advertising based, which makes it tempting to raise download numbers in order to ask for higher rates. The fact that most projects hosted on SourceForge sport above average download figures - for what is worth - raise a question mark Back at OOo, download figures proved to be wildly inaccurate. On 14/10/14 13:18, Leif Lodahl wrote: Wouldn't the most obvious thing be to add a Piwik server to our web infrastructure and start picking up some detailed statistics about both downloads but also user behaviour in general? -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Number of locale users?
Hi :) 80 million sounds pretty good. I tend to try to stop most machines from updating unattended for most things and anyway most probably appear to come from a single ip address. Also i might download an update in one place and then use it on many different machines in several different places as not all have internet access. I suspect it's similar for many other people too. So i suspect the 80 million figure is a nice safe low estimate. That makes it easier to quote without qualms :)) I also think it safely avoids counting people who really want to remain anonymous and probably avoids causing any undue issues wrt privacy for the rest of us too. Regards from Tom :) On 14 October 2014 14:01, Italo Vignoli italo.vign...@gmail.com wrote: We have decided to avoid releasing download figures, and use update figures instead (which need some number crunching by developers: last figure was 80 million if unique IPs pinging for updates, but goes back to late spring). Download figures are not representative of the level of adoption, and in addition are extremely easy to tweak. SourceForge, for instance, is advertising based, which makes it tempting to raise download numbers in order to ask for higher rates. The fact that most projects hosted on SourceForge sport above average download figures - for what is worth - raise a question mark Back at OOo, download figures proved to be wildly inaccurate. On 14/10/14 13:18, Leif Lodahl wrote: Wouldn't the most obvious thing be to add a Piwik server to our web infrastructure and start picking up some detailed statistics about both downloads but also user behaviour in general? -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob IT +39.348.5653829 - mob EU +39.392.7481795 sip it...@libreoffice.org - skype italovignoli GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
