Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search themes for Personas / Personalization, translate .. or not .. (bug 87597)

2015-02-19 Thread Stanislav Horáček

Hi,

I think the labels should be translated (to have UI translated 
consistently) and the original terms should be searched (that's why I 
filled the bug:). On the other hand, I agree that a user can be confused 
if he gets meaningful results using the translated labels, but no 
results for translated own search.


One more point - it seems that capitalization matters and capitalized 
keyword (the current state) gets substantially less results.


Best regards,
Stanislav


Dne 19.2.2015 v 14:50 Cor Nouws napsal(a):

Hi all,

I was looking to this bug
   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87597

Choose Tools - Options - Personalization - Own Theme.
The suggestions there
   pxhJi Abstract | BDTdC Color | GjKFW Music | kCoME Nature
are translated so there's little to find when I use the Dutch UI :)

Now it's simple to change that for Dutch, but there are two more options:
  - make the words non localizable,
  - search for the original term, independent of the localization :)

I would appreciate opinions on this.

Thanks a lot,
Cor




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Make Guarani available

2015-02-19 Thread Giovanni Caligaris
Still no replies

Can anyone help me?

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> Sorry you had no replies over the weekend!  I gather people were busy as
> there are a couple of massive tradeshows and other events coming up soon.
>
> Hopefully someone will be able to help you get this sorted out fairly
> soon!
> Good luck and regards from
> Tom :)
>
> On 14 February 2015 at 18:28, Giovanni Caligaris <
> giovannicaliga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I have sent an email before asking the Guarani pack to be able to
>> download.
>>
>> They told me they were going to change the local code on pootle from Gn to
>> Gug but never got done.
>>
>> I have reached 33% now, and have completed the sw, sd, sc (uiconfig)
>> folders and have done some work on other folders.
>>
>> I would like to know if there's anything I can do to make the pack
>> available.
>>
>> -Gio
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search themes for Personas / Personalization, translate .. or not .. (bug 87597)

2015-02-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Naruhiko, *

Naruhiko Ogasawara wrote on 19-02-15 14:57:

> This dialog has free input field to use localized search word, so I vote
> the first choice.

Sound logic to me. Thanks!

I'll wait a little for possible other ideas and then probably see to get
it done.

Cheers,
Cor

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Search themes for Personas / Personalization, translate .. or not .. (bug 87597)

2015-02-19 Thread Naruhiko Ogasawara
Hi Cor, *

> I was looking to this bug
>   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87597
>
> Choose Tools - Options - Personalization - Own Theme.
> The suggestions there
>   pxhJi Abstract | BDTdC Color | GjKFW Music | kCoME Nature
> are translated so there's little to find when I use the Dutch UI :)
>
> Now it's simple to change that for Dutch, but there are two more options:
>  - make the words non localizable,
>  - search for the original term, independent of the localization :)

We (Japanese localization team) faced the same issue and we decide
NOT to localize them (sorry to share the issue).
This dialog has free input field to use localized search word, so I vote
the first choice.

Best,
-- 
Naruhiko Ogasawara (naru...@gmail.com)

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[libreoffice-l10n] Search themes for Personas / Personalization, translate .. or not .. (bug 87597)

2015-02-19 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi all,

I was looking to this bug
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87597

Choose Tools - Options - Personalization - Own Theme.
The suggestions there
  pxhJi Abstract | BDTdC Color | GjKFW Music | kCoME Nature
are translated so there's little to find when I use the Dutch UI :)

Now it's simple to change that for Dutch, but there are two more options:
 - make the words non localizable,
 - search for the original term, independent of the localization :)

I would appreciate opinions on this.

Thanks a lot,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Why pootle has incomplete translation and where to get complete POT/PO?

2015-02-19 Thread Serg Bormant
Hi all,

2015-02-18 17:43 GMT+03:00 Christian Lohmaier :
> Hi Serg, Adolfo, *,
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Adolfo Jayme Barrientos
>  wrote:
>> 2015-02-18 9:12 GMT+00:00 Serg Bormant :
>>> This commit made on 2014-09-03. Is it good time now to merge the
>>> commit in 4.3 branch and update Pootle?
>>> This doesn't make things worse but it can make localized versions better a 
>>> bit.
>>
>> I don’t think it’s worth the hassle at this point in the release
>> cycle. There’s only one version left to release in that branch, 4.3.7.
>
> Indeed, and furthermore this would arguably be a UI/string change and
> those aren't "allowed" at that point of a release.

No.
The strings (untranslatable) was added some time ago, allowed or not.
They are in UI already. And yes, they are untranslated now. What this
UI/string freeze rule for? Seems to me it prevents untranslated
strings. So why this simple rule works against translating?

As for me, 4.3.{6,7} will be in use after 4.4.{1,2,3...} because of
regressions :(

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