Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle Invalid XML

2015-06-01 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Den 01.06.2015 13:12, Andras Timar skreiv:

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Kolbjørn Stuestøl
 wrote:

It looks like the error function are reading < and > as XML tags.
The text "… new style of footnotes with  and  tags that …"
is marked correctly as Invalid XML. (Unit #31209006). But they are not meant
to be XML tags. Here they are plain text.
Is it desirable to use < and > (or similar codes) instead of < and >
to avoid the error message?


IMHO it's easier to mark it as false positive in Pootle. There are
only a few of them in case of 'Invalid XML' check. Every string change
causes 100x work for 100x languages, not to mention engineer's time.

Regards,
Andras


You are right. I thought that < and > perhaps is a valid code for 
< and > as in HTML.

Of course, there are more important tasks than this one.
(Sent copy to list too)
Kolbjoern


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[libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle Invalid XML

2015-06-01 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

It looks like the error function are reading < and > as XML tags.
The text "… new style of footnotes with  and  tags that 
…" is marked correctly as Invalid XML. (Unit #31209006). But they are 
not meant to be XML tags. Here they are plain text.
Is it desirable to use < and > (or similar codes) instead of < and 
> to avoid the error message?


Kolbjoern




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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] New Pootle Critical errors

2015-06-01 Thread Kolbjørn Stuestøl

Den 01.06.2015 00:49, Dwayne Bailey skreiv:

On 30 May 2015 at 17:59, Kolbjørn Stuestøl  wrote:

For Norwegian bokmål (language code nb) and nynorsk (nn) the recommended
quotes are
At start « (Unicode hex 00AB); at end » (Unicode hex 00BB).


I'll add these thanks.

Thank you.




I do not think we needs the quote in quote characters neither the quotes
in quotes in quotes.
Is it possible to use the  tag and let LibreOffice "translate" it
to the language used?


The quotes check will not prevent you from submitting a unit.  It is simply
a warning to pick up possible issues.  So do what is needed for your
language, don't try make Pootle happy.  Critical errors are different,
those relate will be Placeables and XML related.

Yes, I understand.


I realise we're exposing stylistic checks but showing them in red, I'll see
how we can fix that and am tracking it here
https://github.com/translate/pootle/issues/3776

It would be fine.

Kolbjoern

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] vaguely formulated strings, procedure?

2015-06-01 Thread Yury Tarasievich

Re Khaled's comment, too:

Then, 'Standard', or, even, something to the 
tune of 'Standard for your language/input 
direction'?


Translators have to plod through myriads of 
those 'Default' strings, which may or may be not 
explained in help files.


-Yury

On 06/01/2015 11:04 AM, Andras Timar wrote:

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Cor Nouws  wrote:

Yury Tarasievich wrote on 28-05-15 07:50:



E.g., in Writer's 'Edit paragraph style' dialog, 'Alignment' tab, 'Last
line' combobox (activated if 'alignment' is set to 'Justified'), the 1st
variant is 'Default'.


I happen to see the word 'Left' in 500beta1.
So maybe that one already has been improved?



It is Left, when you don't have CTL languages enabled. Otherwise it is
Default, because in case of RTL paragraph, it will be aligned to right
to to left, when you choose Default.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] vaguely formulated strings, procedure?

2015-06-01 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 10:04:07AM +0200, Andras Timar wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Cor Nouws  wrote:
> > Hi Yury,
> >
> > Yury Tarasievich wrote on 28-05-15 07:50:
> >
> >> E.g., in Writer's 'Edit paragraph style' dialog, 'Alignment' tab, 'Last
> >> line' combobox (activated if 'alignment' is set to 'Justified'), the 1st
> >> variant is 'Default'.
> >
> > I happen to see the word 'Left' in 500beta1.
> > So maybe that one already has been improved?
> >
> 
> It is Left, when you don't have CTL languages enabled. Otherwise it is
> Default, because in case of RTL paragraph, it will be aligned to right
> to to left, when you choose Default.

Probably Start (and similarly End for the opposite direction) would be
more descriptive and direction neutral string.

Regards,
Khaled

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] vaguely formulated strings, procedure?

2015-06-01 Thread Andras Timar
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Cor Nouws  wrote:
> Hi Yury,
>
> Yury Tarasievich wrote on 28-05-15 07:50:
>
>> E.g., in Writer's 'Edit paragraph style' dialog, 'Alignment' tab, 'Last
>> line' combobox (activated if 'alignment' is set to 'Justified'), the 1st
>> variant is 'Default'.
>
> I happen to see the word 'Left' in 500beta1.
> So maybe that one already has been improved?
>

It is Left, when you don't have CTL languages enabled. Otherwise it is
Default, because in case of RTL paragraph, it will be aligned to right
to to left, when you choose Default.

Regards,
Andras

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] vaguely formulated strings, procedure?

2015-06-01 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Yury,

Yury Tarasievich wrote on 28-05-15 07:50:

> E.g., in Writer's 'Edit paragraph style' dialog, 'Alignment' tab, 'Last
> line' combobox (activated if 'alignment' is set to 'Justified'), the 1st
> variant is 'Default'.

I happen to see the word 'Left' in 500beta1.
So maybe that one already has been improved?

For the rest: good to do!
Thanks,
Cor


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] vaguely formulated strings, procedure?

2015-06-01 Thread Sophie
Hi Yury,
Le 28/05/2015 07:50, Yury Tarasievich a écrit :
> Hello all,
> 
> What is the correct (and productive) workflow procedure if the UI string
> is just vaguely formulated? Not incorrect as such, just vague,
> inconcrete, overly cryptic?
> 
> E.g., in Writer's 'Edit paragraph style' dialog, 'Alignment' tab, 'Last
> line' combobox (activated if 'alignment' is set to 'Justified'), the 1st
> variant is 'Default'.
> Choosing the 'Default' there left-aligns the last line of the justified
> paragraph (predicted by the graphic preview, too). This string is
> definitely asking to be changed to 'Left'. There are similar examples, I
> believe.

The best is to fill an enhancement request in BZ and send a mail to the
UX project list so they can have a look to the bug.

Cheers
Sophie

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