[libreoffice-l10n] Some old features in Pootle missing
Hi All after the Pootle's latest update I'm experiencing some useful features I used to use during translation: - TM suggestion's derivation is missing - Translated strings in UI are not used for suggestions in Help - Same translation / very similar translation, in the same area/project are not proposed for other strings Am I wrong or is this a little regression in the software? TIA, ciao -- Valter Open Source is better! LibreOffice: www.libreoffice.org KDE: www.kde.org Kubuntu: www.kubuntu.org OpenSuse: it.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc
06.06.2016 u 12:24, Eike Rathke je napisao/la:
Hi Kruno,
On Thursday, 2016-06-02 09:35:27 +0200, Kruno wrote:
See here: http://pravopis.hr/pravilo/bjelina/54/
It's not controversial topic in Croatian orthography. Personal preferences
and that "I used to" really should not be an argument here. If we have
Croatian local, then this is what we must do.
If in doubt consult the CLDR, see
http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476
The CLDR has a vetting system and they change things only after having
investigated given references.
I don't see ·hr· being listed for the percent format, so it should fall
under {#,##0%} ·all·others·, i.e. no space between number and percent
sign.
Eike
I'm not in doubt but not perusing this ether. Leave it (for now). :)
Kruno
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc
Hi, Eike Rathke wrote on 06-06-16 12:24: If in doubt consult the CLDR, see http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476 [...] Interesting. If I interpret that correct, Dutch should be "#,##0%" However, "Taalunie" (language 'authority') says, based on ISO, that for Dutch a space before percent is official, although without space is acceptable in non technical use. [...] @Winfried: you're more in technical use that I am. What would be your take here? My personal view (based on experiences with the use of percents) is that between value and the percent character a space is optional and no space is more common. But as I cannot offer any references, let alone standards, supporting my view, don't give too much weight to my view. Winfried -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc
winfrieddonk...@libreoffice.org wrote on 06-06-16 14:02: > My personal view (based on experiences with the use of percents) is that > between value and the percent character a space is optional and no space > is more common. Same here. > But as I cannot offer any references, let alone standards, supporting my > view, don't give too much weight to my view. Since we have the shared idea that 'no-space' is more common, lets simply keep it that way. And in case some technical authority might start nagging us, we know how&where to change. Thanks, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
No-break space between number and percent sign done for locales listed in CLDR (was: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc)
Hi, So I did this for our locales that match http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476 bas· ·be· ·br· ·ce· ·cs· ·cu· ·da· ·de· ·dsb· ·dua· ·en_AT· ·en_DE· ·en_DK· ·en_FI· ·en_SE· ·es· ·fi· ·fo· ·fr· ·gsw· ·hsb· ·ka· ·kl· ·ksh· ·lb· ·lt· ·nb· ·nn· ·qu· ·rm· ·rn· ·ro· ·ru· ·se· ·sk· ·sv· ·tk· ·zgh· but not ·de_CH· ·de_LI· ·eo· ·es_CO· ·es_DO· ·es_MX· ·fr_CH· ·mt· ·prg· ·ta_MY· ·ta_SG· (hopefully didn't miss to exclude one of those). See https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=core.git;a=commitdiff;h=d5146c0e3ca7459db4fdc3b348cec4012555ea35 I'll also cherry-pick that to the 5-2 branch. So there's no need anymore to ping here if your locale has the required change. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GPG key "ID" 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A Better use 64-bit 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A here is why: https://evil32.com/ Care about Free Software, support the FSFE https://fsfe.org/support/?erack -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc
Hi, Eike Rathke wrote on 06-06-16 12:24: > If in doubt consult the CLDR, see > http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476 > > The CLDR has a vetting system and they change things only after having > investigated given references. Interesting. If I interpret that correct, Dutch should be "#,##0%" However, "Taalunie" (language 'authority') says, based on ISO, that for Dutch a space before percent is official, although without space is acceptable in non technical use. See http://taaladvies.net/taal/advies/tekst/114/wel_of_geen_spaties_voor_en_na_leestekens_en_symbolen_algemeen/#10 @Winfried: you're more in technical use that I am. What would be your take here? Ciao Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc
Hi Kruno,
On Thursday, 2016-06-02 09:35:27 +0200, Kruno wrote:
> See here: http://pravopis.hr/pravilo/bjelina/54/
>
> It's not controversial topic in Croatian orthography. Personal preferences
> and that "I used to" really should not be an argument here. If we have
> Croatian local, then this is what we must do.
If in doubt consult the CLDR, see
http://www.unicode.org/cldr/charts/29/by_type/numbers.number_formatting_patterns.html#17acd127f9139476
The CLDR has a vetting system and they change things only after having
investigated given references.
I don't see ·hr· being listed for the percent format, so it should fall
under {#,##0%} ·all·others·, i.e. no space between number and percent
sign.
Eike
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Missing space in formatting of percents in Calc
Hi Christian, On Thursday, 2016-06-02 07:15:07 +0200, Christian Kühl wrote: > For German a non-breaking space between number and percent sign as well > as units is required, too. Actually only for Germany, Austria and others, but not for Suisse or Liechtenstein. Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GPG key "ID" 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A Better use 64-bit 0x6A6CD5B765632D3A here is why: https://evil32.com/ Care about Free Software, support the FSFE https://fsfe.org/support/?erack -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
