Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Changed UI and not adapted help contents
My dyslexy: http://vm173.documentfoundation.org Em 06/12/2016 16:12, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hi Thomas > > As Sophie said already, I monitor the changes and the updates of the > help contents. > > A quick look at the page > > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=help.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master > > will show you how many changes are already done in the pages (and for > that matter, don't be surprised if the HelpContent2 of LIbreOffice 5.3 > will carry a huge number of new/modified strings). > > We have a metabug 80430 that collect all existing bugs related to help > contents gaps. > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=80430&hide_resolved=1 > > Another quick look there will tell you how much is left to do... > > As we all know, we depend on volunteers to pick a help page and update > it, and it is hard to set deadlines in our case. But I can help > newcommers to write help contents. > > If you notice a gap between the software and the help page, please open > a bug and make your bug be a blocker of bug 80430 so that it stays in > our list. > > And if you want to know if the page is already updated but not yet in > pootle, visit vm173: > > http://vm173.documentfoundaiton.org > > where the recent help pages can be displayed. > > Feel free to contact us anytime you need. > > Kind regards > > Olivier > > > Em 06/12/2016 13:59, Thomas Hackert escreveu: >> Hello @ll, >> after stumbling upon >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104410, I was >> wondering if there are any plans to update the help files to fit the >> new changed menu entries at any time in the near future. >> >> After a short search in Bugzilla, I found Regina's bug >> (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92825) which >> seems to become some kind of meta bug ... :( And then I found >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges,, >> but both does not say about any plans to adapt the help files as >> well (and especially when this will happen, so we translators can >> prepare for the next flood of strings adequately ... ;) ). >> >> Does anybody of you know a little bit more and can enlighten me, >> please? So I am able to answer something like "This will be fixed in >> x.y.z" to one of the next bugs I may find the next time ... ;) >> TIA >> Thomas. >> -- Olivier Hallot LIbreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Changed UI and not adapted help contents
Hi Thomas As Sophie said already, I monitor the changes and the updates of the help contents. A quick look at the page https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=help.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/master will show you how many changes are already done in the pages (and for that matter, don't be surprised if the HelpContent2 of LIbreOffice 5.3 will carry a huge number of new/modified strings). We have a metabug 80430 that collect all existing bugs related to help contents gaps. https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=80430&hide_resolved=1 Another quick look there will tell you how much is left to do... As we all know, we depend on volunteers to pick a help page and update it, and it is hard to set deadlines in our case. But I can help newcommers to write help contents. If you notice a gap between the software and the help page, please open a bug and make your bug be a blocker of bug 80430 so that it stays in our list. And if you want to know if the page is already updated but not yet in pootle, visit vm173: http://vm173.documentfoundaiton.org where the recent help pages can be displayed. Feel free to contact us anytime you need. Kind regards Olivier Em 06/12/2016 13:59, Thomas Hackert escreveu: > Hello @ll, > after stumbling upon > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104410, I was > wondering if there are any plans to update the help files to fit the > new changed menu entries at any time in the near future. > > After a short search in Bugzilla, I found Regina's bug > (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92825) which > seems to become some kind of meta bug ... :( And then I found > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges,, > but both does not say about any plans to adapt the help files as > well (and especially when this will happen, so we translators can > prepare for the next flood of strings adequately ... ;) ). > > Does anybody of you know a little bit more and can enlighten me, > please? So I am able to answer something like "This will be fixed in > x.y.z" to one of the next bugs I may find the next time ... ;) > TIA > Thomas. > -- Olivier Hallot LIbreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-02:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Re: Changed UI and not adapted help contents
Hello Sophie, *, On Tuesday 06 December 2016 17:55 Sophie wrote: > Le 06/12/2016 à 17:37, Thomas Hackert a écrit : >> On Tuesday 06 December 2016 17:04 Sophie wrote: >>> Le 06/12/2016 à 16:59, Thomas Hackert a écrit : [plans to adapt the help to the new menu structure] >>> Yes, Olivier is monitoring and managing this and I guess you can >>> ping him on the documentation list, this is where the work is >>> ongoing. >> >> well, O.K. I am not subscribed to the documentation list ... :( > > Yes I realized that each time I ask you to subscribe to a new list > :( I would be glad if I have the spare time to follow all of our lists ... But alas I have not that much spare time at hand ... :( >>> You can also monitor the progress in the ESC minutes, >>> published each Thursday on the dev, qa and projects lists. >> >> Yes, I know :) But I was looking for an non-dev compatible site >> (wiki page or whatever) where normal users / bug reporters can >> have a look to see when help page X to old menu entry / feature Y >> will be updated and especially when they will see this in Lo ... >> ;) > > I think Olivier will have a simplified access for you, that was > only mine I suggested :) O.K. Thanks for your answer Thomas. -- If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- J.R.R. Tolkien -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Changed UI and not adapted help contents
Hi Thomas, Le 06/12/2016 à 17:37, Thomas Hackert a écrit : > Hello Sophie, *, > On Tuesday 06 December 2016 17:04 Sophie wrote: >> Le 06/12/2016 à 16:59, Thomas Hackert a écrit : >>> after stumbling upon >>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104410, I > was >>> wondering if there are any plans to update the help files to fit >>> the new changed menu entries at any time in the near future. >>> >>> After a short search in Bugzilla, I found Regina's bug >>> (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92825) > which >>> seems to become some kind of meta bug ... :( And then I found >>> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges,, >>> but both does not say about any plans to adapt the help files as >>> well (and especially when this will happen, so we translators can >>> prepare for the next flood of strings adequately ... ;) ). >>> >>> Does anybody of you know a little bit more and can enlighten me, >>> please? So I am able to answer something like "This will be fixed >>> in x.y.z" to one of the next bugs I may find the next time ... ;) >> >> Yes, Olivier is monitoring and managing this and I guess you can >> ping him on the documentation list, this is where the work is >> ongoing. > > well, O.K. I am not subscribed to the documentation list ... :( Yes I realized that each time I ask you to subscribe to a new list :( > >> You can also monitor the progress in the ESC minutes, >> published each Thursday on the dev, qa and projects lists. > > Yes, I know :) But I was looking for an non-dev compatible site > (wiki page or whatever) where normal users / bug reporters can have > a look to see when help page X to old menu entry / feature Y will be > updated and especially when they will see this in Lo ... ;) I think Olivier will have a simplified access for you, that was only mine I suggested :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Re: Changed UI and not adapted help contents
Hello Sophie, *, On Tuesday 06 December 2016 17:04 Sophie wrote: > Le 06/12/2016 à 16:59, Thomas Hackert a écrit : >> after stumbling upon >> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104410, I was >> wondering if there are any plans to update the help files to fit >> the new changed menu entries at any time in the near future. >> >> After a short search in Bugzilla, I found Regina's bug >> (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92825) which >> seems to become some kind of meta bug ... :( And then I found >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges,, >> but both does not say about any plans to adapt the help files as >> well (and especially when this will happen, so we translators can >> prepare for the next flood of strings adequately ... ;) ). >> >> Does anybody of you know a little bit more and can enlighten me, >> please? So I am able to answer something like "This will be fixed >> in x.y.z" to one of the next bugs I may find the next time ... ;) > > Yes, Olivier is monitoring and managing this and I guess you can > ping him on the documentation list, this is where the work is > ongoing. well, O.K. I am not subscribed to the documentation list ... :( > You can also monitor the progress in the ESC minutes, > published each Thursday on the dev, qa and projects lists. Yes, I know :) But I was looking for an non-dev compatible site (wiki page or whatever) where normal users / bug reporters can have a look to see when help page X to old menu entry / feature Y will be updated and especially when they will see this in Lo ... ;) Thanks for your answer Thomas. -- NP: El Paso Killers – Demon Eyes -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Changed UI and not adapted help contents
Hi Thomas, Le 06/12/2016 à 16:59, Thomas Hackert a écrit : > Hello @ll, > after stumbling upon > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104410, I was > wondering if there are any plans to update the help files to fit the > new changed menu entries at any time in the near future. > > After a short search in Bugzilla, I found Regina's bug > (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92825) which > seems to become some kind of meta bug ... :( And then I found > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges,, > but both does not say about any plans to adapt the help files as > well (and especially when this will happen, so we translators can > prepare for the next flood of strings adequately ... ;) ). > > Does anybody of you know a little bit more and can enlighten me, > please? So I am able to answer something like "This will be fixed in > x.y.z" to one of the next bugs I may find the next time ... ;) Yes, Olivier is monitoring and managing this and I guess you can ping him on the documentation list, this is where the work is ongoing. You can also monitor the progress in the ESC minutes, published each Thursday on the dev, qa and projects lists. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Changed UI and not adapted help contents
Hello @ll, after stumbling upon https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104410, I was wondering if there are any plans to update the help files to fit the new changed menu entries at any time in the near future. After a short search in Bugzilla, I found Regina's bug (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92825) which seems to become some kind of meta bug ... :( And then I found https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/RecentStringChanges,, but both does not say about any plans to adapt the help files as well (and especially when this will happen, so we translators can prepare for the next flood of strings adequately ... ;) ). Does anybody of you know a little bit more and can enlighten me, please? So I am able to answer something like "This will be fixed in x.y.z" to one of the next bugs I may find the next time ... ;) TIA Thomas. -- I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones. -- John Cage -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Extra files on Pootle
Hi all, Concerning extra files that some projects have in the root directory for UI (list bellow in Giovanni's original mail), do not translate them there, just ignore them, the one used are in a subdirectory. Cheers Sophie Le 04/12/2016 à 21:56, Giovanni Caligaris a écrit : > Hello > > I just noticed the Master string for Guarani has some extra files > > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gug/libo_ui/ > > These are the files > > accessories.po > area.po > dlg.po > formdlg.po > sidebar.po > sv_SE.po > > They are right under the xmlsecurity folder. Is that supposed to be there? > > -Gio > -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Extra files on Pootle
Hi all, Concerning extra files that some projects have in the root directory for UI (list bellow in Giovanni's original mail), do not translate them there, just ignore them, the one used are in a subdirectory. Cheers Sophie Le 04/12/2016 à 21:56, Giovanni Caligaris a écrit : > Hello > > I just noticed the Master string for Guarani has some extra files > > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gug/libo_ui/ > > These are the files > > accessories.po > area.po > dlg.po > formdlg.po > sidebar.po > sv_SE.po > > They are right under the xmlsecurity folder. Is that supposed to be there? > > -Gio > -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Pootle super slow
Hi All, A quick heads up from the Pootle developers. We're busy testing the migration of the current Pootle database to our latest codebase. This brings with it a number of improvements, most importantly speed, lots of it. LibreOffice os by far the biggest sized Pootle server we have out there and we've been optimising many of the code paths. The template update should also be faster and have less impact. So currently we're doing the test migrations and we hope to deploy relatively soon. Thanks for your patience and I'm sure you'll experience something lightning fast in a few days time. On 5 December 2016 at 20:15, Anton Meixome wrote: > Me too, > > I'm feeling so fisherman.. string by string > > :-) > > 2016-12-05 7:39 GMT+01:00 Cheng-Chia Tseng : > > Valter Mura 於 2016年12月5日 週一 上午2:37寫道： > > > >> Il 04/12/2016 18:04, Giovanni Caligaris ha scritto: > >> > Anyone having the same issue? > >> > > >> > I can bearly do any work. > >> > > >> > -Gio > >> > > >> Hi Giovanni > >> > >> I agree with you and Leif. > >> > >> > > Extremely slow and unbearable. > > Offline translation works and saves more time, but uploading fails on > some > > specific po files. :S > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > -- > Antón Méixome - Galician Native Lang Coordination > Galician community LibO & AOO > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Dwayne *Translate* +27 12 460 1095 (work) -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] blank string
Hi Donald, Le 06/12/2016 à 04:19, Donald a écrit : > What is the point of this string? It seems to be just a single space. In > Pootle it shows up as a yellow rectangle with a red squiggle in it. > > Module UI sc > Context: notebookbar_groups.ui growb label string.text > Locations: notebookbar_groups.ui > Comment: 4gFGS > > Also: kHPcr and maybe others. It has already been reported as a bug to the UX team. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Extra files on Pootle
Hi all, Le 6 déc. 2016 9:33 AM, "Giovanni Caligaris" a écrit : > > Hello > > No, we didn't upload them. We only work on the browser and not offline. > I also believe it has something to do with the updating of templates OK, I'll check with Christian how to fix that. Thanks for your feedback. Cheers Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Extra files on Pootle
Hello No, we didn't upload them. We only work on the browser and not offline. I also believe it has something to do with the updating of templates -Gio On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Baurzhan Muftakhidinov < baurthefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Sophie wrote: > > Hi Giovanni, > > Le 04/12/2016 à 21:56, Giovanni Caligaris a écrit : > >> Hello > >> > >> I just noticed the Master string for Guarani has some extra files > >> > >> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gug/libo_ui/ > >> > >> These are the files > >> > >> accessories.po > >> area.po > >> dlg.po > >> formdlg.po > >> sidebar.po > >> sv_SE.po > >> > >> They are right under the xmlsecurity folder. Is that supposed to be > there? > > > > No, are you sure that your team didn't upload them there instead of > > there normal location? If not get a copy of them in case and you can > > remove them. > > > > Cheers > > Sophie > > > > -- > > Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org > > GSM: +33683901545 > > IRC: sophi > > Release coordinator > > The Document Foundation > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > Hi, > Same extra files here for > https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/ > I did not upload them, probably glitches of automated updating from > templates? > Regards, > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- > unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Extra files on Pootle
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Sophie wrote: > Hi Giovanni, > Le 04/12/2016 à 21:56, Giovanni Caligaris a écrit : >> Hello >> >> I just noticed the Master string for Guarani has some extra files >> >> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/gug/libo_ui/ >> >> These are the files >> >> accessories.po >> area.po >> dlg.po >> formdlg.po >> sidebar.po >> sv_SE.po >> >> They are right under the xmlsecurity folder. Is that supposed to be there? > > No, are you sure that your team didn't upload them there instead of > there normal location? If not get a copy of them in case and you can > remove them. > > Cheers > Sophie > > -- > Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org > GSM: +33683901545 > IRC: sophi > Release coordinator > The Document Foundation > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Hi, Same extra files here for https://translations.documentfoundation.org/kk/libo_ui/ I did not upload them, probably glitches of automated updating from templates? Regards, -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
