Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Please read: minutes of ESC meeting
On 18/10/17 12:31, Sveinn í Felli wrote:
I guess changes in quotation marks ('→" "→ˮ)
inside of text strings would fall into category 3)?
I'd say those, as culture-dependent, would merit
a separate category. OTOH, ellipsis vs.
three-dots is implementation-specific (so, #3).
One frequent case for category 4): When there's
a typographic symbol like an ' (apostrophe),
Apostrophe-to-doublequote definitely #3.
Apostrophe-to-apostrophe (like, U+0027 to
U+20xx)... *rather* #3.
In fact, there's no need to create a complete
matrix of things typography-related, but rather
those actually being implemented and the most
likely scenarios.
-Yury
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Please read: minutes of ESC meeting
I guess changes in quotation marks ('→" "→ˮ) inside of text strings
would fall into category 3)?
Either translators will have localized them («french quoted text») or
they're fine with what's already there.
One frequent case for category 4): When there's a typographic symbol
like an ' (apostrophe), which may not be used at all or is used very
differently in the target language; I don't count anymore all the
fuzzies I've had because someone corrected "it's" to "its" or vice versa
(and in my language we don't use these). Of course more serious
spell-checking in source could possibly alter the conveyed meaning for
translators, thus it could be justifiable to make things fuzzy in that case.
Just thoughts,
Sveinn í Felli
Þann þri 17.okt 2017 07:39, skrifaði Yury Tarasievich:
Some thoughts for guys capable of implementing. Of course, I have no
idea whether any of these are feasible.
So, change in English string (tEh original) brings some checks with the
previous value:
1) capitalisation changed? set flag 1
2) shortcut markup changed (like _ to &)? set flag 2
3) typography changed (like ... to …)? set flag 3
4) something else which nobody in the world *needs* to react to?
Then, the flags for the strings are checked against the matrix of
'action values' for those flags and languages.
Just sketching:
'ru', caps=no_reaction, shortcut=autochange (change just the marker in
the translated), typography=autochange (no error if there's no
corresponding), words_changed=react (!)
No 'criticality' in the matrix means the new original is set with the
'NONCRITICAL' (not FUZZY!) flag (needs to be implemented, at least in
the online l10n system?). The team would wish to see and check those
changes, after all.
And even one 'criticality' sets the FUZZY flag, etc.
-Yury
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Please read: minutes of ESC meeting
Yes, yes, yes! Thank you Yury for these suggestions. Maybe Dwayne could comment on feasibility? Rhos Ar 17/10/2017 10:11, ysgrifennodd Michael Bauer: +1 to all of these. Michael Sgrìobh Yury Tarasievich na leanas 17/10/2017 aig 08:39: Some thoughts for guys capable of implementing. Of course, I have no idea whether any of these are feasible. So, change in English string (tEh original) brings some checks with the previous value: 1) capitalisation changed? set flag 1 2) shortcut markup changed (like _ to &)? set flag 2 3) typography changed (like ... to …)? set flag 3 4) something else which nobody in the world *needs* to react to? Then, the flags for the strings are checked against the matrix of 'action values' for those flags and languages. Just sketching: 'ru', caps=no_reaction, shortcut=autochange (change just the marker in the translated), typography=autochange (no error if there's no corresponding), words_changed=react (!) No 'criticality' in the matrix means the new original is set with the 'NONCRITICAL' (not FUZZY!) flag (needs to be implemented, at least in the online l10n system?). The team would wish to see and check those changes, after all. And even one 'criticality' sets the FUZZY flag, etc. -Yury -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
