Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi Michael, Le 27/08/2019 à 18:07, Michael Wolf a écrit : > Why are there untranslated strings for Upper Sorbian and Lower Sorbian > on Weblate? All master strings are translated on Pootle for both languages. The template has been updated > > And, will Weblate the translation platform in future, note more Pootle? This is what we have to decide. Pootle is no more developed and maintained so we have to find another tool for the future. Weblate seems the best tool to suite our needs (off line/on line translation). This is why we are testing it at the moment. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Marketing campaign "NO" available for translation
Hi everyone, Some of you may have seen this: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2019/08/27/dont-get-trapped-by-your-office-suite/ I've put the ODG file I used to make the image on the wiki: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Marketing_campaign_NO.odg So you can translate it and use it on social media. You can also translate the blog post if you like, or even turn it into a page on a localised LibreOffice website. (I preferred to do it as a blog post, as the English-language website already has so many pages...) -- Mike Saunders, Marketing & PR The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi, Le 28/08/2019 à 08:14, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit : > I agree with Cheng. > All the different small parts of items makes it uncomfortable to see > what to translate. > Better is to have one folder of untranslated items (like Pootle) > And saving a change and skip to the next item seems a bit slow to me. This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the best, but Weblate has many other nice features :) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
On 28.08.2019 11:42, sophi wrote: Le 28/08/2019 à 08:14, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit : I agree with Cheng. All the different small parts of items makes it uncomfortable to see what to translate. Better is to have one folder of untranslated items (like Pootle) And saving a change and skip to the next item seems a bit slow to me. This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the best, but Weblate has many other nice features :) Who volunteers to create a feature request? https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues I was unable to find an existing request. Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi Ilmari, Le 28/08/2019 à 11:04, Ilmari Lauhakangas a écrit : > On 28.08.2019 11:42, sophi wrote: >> Le 28/08/2019 à 08:14, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit : >>> I agree with Cheng. >>> All the different small parts of items makes it uncomfortable to see >>> what to translate. >>> Better is to have one folder of untranslated items (like Pootle) >>> And saving a change and skip to the next item seems a bit slow to me. >> >> This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the >> best, but Weblate has many other nice features :) > > Who volunteers to create a feature request? > https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues > > I was unable to find an existing request. It's somewhere on the site, maybe documentation, it's said it will not be done at the moment unless there is a strong reason. If we adopt it, that could become a strong reason ;) Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Very first impression is "Not sure I trust them to do the job properly". They list ga-IE as Irish (fine) but gd-GB as "Gaelic" rather than the much clearer "Scots Gaelic" or "Scottish Gaelic". Given the huge amount of confusion people have over Irish Gaelic, Manx Gaelic and Scots Gaelic, that suggests a lack of thought/research when language issues are concerned. We're going to have endless people ... ok not endless, a number of people signing up for the wrong language. Not fun for any locale manager either way. I may have missed this but what's wrong with Pootle? It has worked for a long time? If you asked me to name ONE thing I'd like where I'd like to see major change, it would be to unpick Source Locale from en-US so that every time en-US plays with caps or typos, it doesn't affect all other locales. Moving to a new tool, however sexy their pitch, will just mean an entirely new set of headaches instead of the old set of headaches in my experience and I have accounts on most of them. Doesn't matter if it's Crowdin, Poole, Pontoon, DDG, WordPress, Launchpad etc etc, they all drive you nuts as a translator at some level. Michael Sgrìobh sophi na leanas 27/08/2019 aig 15:37: Your feedback is very welcome of course, we will take it into account before making a decision. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
On 28.08.2019 12:17, Michael Bauer wrote: Sgrìobh sophi na leanas 27/08/2019 aig 15:37: Your feedback is very welcome of course, we will take it into account before making a decision. Very first impression is "Not sure I trust them to do the job properly". They list ga-IE as Irish (fine) but gd-GB as "Gaelic" rather than the much clearer "Scots Gaelic" or "Scottish Gaelic". Given the huge amount of confusion people have over Irish Gaelic, Manx Gaelic and Scots Gaelic, that suggests a lack of thought/research when language issues are concerned. We're going to have endless people ... ok not endless, a number of people signing up for the wrong language. Not fun for any locale manager either way. Here are the language definitions: https://github.com/WeblateOrg/language-data Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi Michael, Le 28/08/2019 à 11:17, Michael Bauer a écrit : > Very first impression is "Not sure I trust them to do the job properly". > They list ga-IE as Irish (fine) but gd-GB as "Gaelic" rather than the > much clearer "Scots Gaelic" or "Scottish Gaelic". Given the huge amount > of confusion people have over Irish Gaelic, Manx Gaelic and Scots > Gaelic, that suggests a lack of thought/research when language issues > are concerned. We're going to have endless people ... ok not endless, a > number of people signing up for the wrong language. Not fun for any > locale manager either way. See Ilmari's answer, this is something that should be corrected. I noted it in the list here: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2691 > > I may have missed this but what's wrong with Pootle? As said, Pootle is no more developed nor maintained, we need to find alternatives for the future. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/dbaccessmessages/he/?type=todo&offset=2 This is the exact path, sorry. Yaron Shahrabani On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 6:03 PM sophi wrote: > Hi Yaron, > Le 27/08/2019 à 16:45, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit : > > Lol, Hebrew looks pretty German from here: > > Could you give me the exact path to the file, I can't see it in your > screenshot. Thanks > Cheers > Sophie > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi Yaron, Le 28/08/2019 à 12:11, Yaron Shahrabani a écrit : > https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/dbaccessmessages/he/?type=todo&offset=2 > > This is the exact path, sorry. Thanks, I reported it to Christian. Cheers, Sophie -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi *, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 4:38 PM sophi wrote: > > We have deployed a Weblate instance for testing purpose here: > https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/ > > *NOTE*: *it is for testing purpose only*, the test will go-on until end > of LibOCon and we will make a decision about migration from Pootle to > Weblate after this test. To clarify: while the instance is for evaluating whether we want to switch to weblate or not (and/or gather what's important to the l10n community if we want to take a closer look to another solution), the translations done in that instance are meant to be kept and not thrown away. So don't just write "blablabla" as translation, as those will show up eventually in master builds :-) ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi *, On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:13 PM Yaron Shahrabani wrote: > > https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/dbaccessmessages/he/?type=todo&offset=2 > > This is the exact path, sorry. Hint: similar to poolte, weblate has direct/permalink functionality that is better to use than offset/todo links, as those might change - and in this case the string that shows up is in Hebrew (but I see the German strings in the "nearby strings" view) This is not a bug in weblate or in the migration path, but rather a problem that already exists in the files on pootle: https://translations.documentfoundation.org/he/libo_ui/translate/dbaccess/messages.po#unit=137591116 And given the history of the string (or rather the translation memory entry) it's an old issue, at least since 5.3.. No idea when or how those strings were turned to German... tldr; no issue with weblate, was already having German stings in the files from pootle used for the import to weblate ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi *, On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 5:34 PM Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote: > sophi 於 2019年8月27日 週二 下午10:38寫道： > > > > There are too many files and paths. Finding the right one I would like to > translate is so painful. That unfortunately is one of the fundamental design differences in weblate and nothing we'd be able to change or customize without huge efforts. But just imagine we would still be in pre-gettext migration where we still had 140 files more... > It will definitely better to use folder-like display as Pootle. Weblate on the other hand allows you to hide completely translated components (files) - so maybe that is already enough to make it more usable for you? ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi *, On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:37 AM sophi wrote: > Le 27/08/2019 à 18:07, Michael Wolf a écrit : > > Why are there untranslated strings for Upper Sorbian and Lower Sorbian > > on Weblate? All master strings are translated on Pootle for both languages. > > The template has been updated Exactly. What was labeled "master" in pootle is used for 6.3 (just renamed the projects to make that more clear, so now it is not labeled master anymore). So translations for 6.3 and 6.2 are still in pootle (and that will stay that way, those won't be migrated away) Files on Weblate have been updated to reflect master/what will become 6.4 ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Hi *, On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:05 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: > > Who volunteers to create a feature request? > https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues Doubt that this will be implemented, as weblate is built around that single-file-component concept. However I created the next-best-thing that Weblate has to offer for grouping, namely Component lists for Help project: https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/#componentlists Does something like this already help? ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Fix Guarani (Paraguay)
Hi Christian, Sophi At your earliest convenience, can you fix the name of Guarani language from "gug (generated) gug" to Guarani Paraguay BTW, in Weblate github (*), I see Guarani as gn;Guarani;2;n != 1 Thank you (*) https://github.com/WeblateOrg/language-data/blob/master/languages.csv -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Fix Guarani (Paraguay)
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 1:53 PM Olivier Hallot wrote: > At your earliest convenience, can you fix the name of Guarani language > from "gug (generated) gug" to Guarani Paraguay Done. > BTW, in Weblate github (*), I see Guarani as > > gn;Guarani;2;n != 1 And is the plurals form correct? (is the same in pootle and is same in weblate since it also is default...) ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Change % to real numbers in summary screens
Hi Christian, Sophie Wherever possible, can I set the translation figures from % to real values? I find difficult to evaluate the work to do when reading % and not the actual volume of translations to do. Thanks!!! -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: Change % to real numbers in summary screens
Hi Olivier, Le 28/08/2019 à 16:44, Olivier Hallot a écrit : > Hi Christian, Sophie > > Wherever possible, can I set the translation figures from % to real > values? I find difficult to evaluate the work to do when reading % and > not the actual volume of translations to do. When you hover the percentage, you get the real value behind. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
sophi schreef op 28.08.2019 10:42: Hi, Le 28/08/2019 à 08:14, kees...@libreoffice.org a écrit : I agree with Cheng. All the different small parts of items makes it uncomfortable to see what to translate. Better is to have one folder of untranslated items (like Pootle) And saving a change and skip to the next item seems a bit slow to me. This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the best, but Weblate has many other nice features :) Can you tell us more about those features. So we don't all have to look for them. Greetings, Kees Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
Christian Lohmaier schreef op 28.08.2019 13:31: Hi *, On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:05 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: Who volunteers to create a feature request? https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues Doubt that this will be implemented, as weblate is built around that single-file-component concept. However I created the next-best-thing that Weblate has to offer for grouping, namely Component lists for Help project: https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/#componentlists Does something like this already help? Not realy, because when you open the link, again there are a lot of lists. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
kees...@libreoffice.org schreef op 29.08.2019 07:04: Christian Lohmaier schreef op 28.08.2019 13:31: Hi *, On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:05 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote: Who volunteers to create a feature request? https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues Doubt that this will be implemented, as weblate is built around that single-file-component concept. However I created the next-best-thing that Weblate has to offer for grouping, namely Component lists for Help project: https://vm137.documentfoundation.org/#componentlists Does something like this already help? Not realy, because when you open the link, again there are a lot of lists. But it is nice to have different folders for Help and UI. ciao Christian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate instance for testing purposes
On 29.08.2019 07:55, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: sophi schreef op 28.08.2019 10:42: This is not possible currently on Weblate and I agree this is not the best, but Weblate has many other nice features :) Can you tell us more about those features. So we don't all have to look for them. Here are highlighted features: https://weblate.org/en/features/ Ilmari -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
