Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Help changes, problematic for l10n
Hi, Heiko, the system you introduced does not allow grammatical cases of the localized keys. So it doesn't work OK for some languages, it is faulty. Of course, if you think it is possible, you can upgrade it to work, so it will have also a parameter in which case the string should be, and also the build process should then use the proper dictionaries for all l10n languages of LO (possible to generate all word cases), so that could work. It seems a complex job to me, but I might be wrong. Lp, m. V V pet., 28. feb. 2020 ob 08:20 je oseba Heiko Tietze < heiko.tie...@documentfoundation.org> napisala: > On 27.02.20 23:21, Martin Srebotnjak wrote: > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130979 > > I introduced %MOD1 and %MOD2 for the tip-of-the-day strings to be specific > on Windows/Linux vs. macOS. You can translate, for example, STR_CMD > defaulting to "⌘ Cmd" to something else. > > Martin asks in tdf#13079 to revert this patch and to duplicate the full > strings in order to allow cases. Sounds like the wrong way to me and I > would like to get more input first. One point is that I cannot find any > example that requires a case (in German I can always talk about "%MODx-key" > and apply the case to "key"). > > The full list of strings is here > https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/cui/inc/tipoftheday.hrc > > TIA, > Heiko > > PS: @Martin: many thanks for looking very closely on every detail. I > really appreciate that even when disagreeing in this particular situation. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Help changes, problematic for l10n
Hi Heiko, Martin, *, Martin Srebotnjak (), 28.02.2020 kell 12:49: > Hi, Heiko, > > the system you introduced does not allow grammatical cases of the localized > keys. So it doesn't work OK for some languages, it is faulty. > > Of course, if you think it is possible, you can upgrade it to work, so it > will have also a parameter in which case the string should be, and also the > build process should then use the proper dictionaries for all l10n > languages of LO (possible to generate all word cases), so that could work. > It seems a complex job to me, but I might be wrong. > Another thing to consider would be small vs. capital first letter, for the languages that don't always use the capitalized version: "Ctrl/Alt/Option" are (presumably) always written with capital initial in the languages where they are named as in English (such as in my native Estonian), however the Slovenian "krmilka" (note the small first letter) would then need to be somehow capitalized when it's used in the beginning of a sentence. *Possibly* this situation can be avoided, *if* the localizers always remember that "strilka"/"strilke" etc. will always appear in all-lowercase, and *if* the language's grammar allows for playing around with word order - but that's two big "if's". I'm not sure it's worth the trouble. More failure-proof option would be to just have separate strings for Linux/Windows and Mac. Sure, it means a bit more work for l10n teams, but translation memory can alleviate that. Best, Mihkel Estonian translator -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization of LibreOffice online
Hi Milos, Martin, Le 26/02/2020 à 11:41, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit : > Hi, Miloš et. al., > > I believe the reason is that the LOOL on TDF nextcloud does not have > langpacks for Slovak (nor for Slovenian) installed. > If I am right, please do install these two langpacks. Both langpacks should be installed now (thanks to Guilhem :-). Let me know if you meet issues. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Foundation coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization of LibreOffice online
In is OK in Slovak now. Thank you! Milos On 2/28/20 4:33 PM, sophi wrote: > Hi Milos, Martin, > Le 26/02/2020 à 11:41, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit : >> Hi, Miloš et. al., >> >> I believe the reason is that the LOOL on TDF nextcloud does not have >> langpacks for Slovak (nor for Slovenian) installed. >> If I am right, please do install these two langpacks. > Both langpacks should be installed now (thanks to Guilhem :-). Let me > know if you meet issues. > Cheers > Sophie -- email & jabber: sramek.mi...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Localization of LibreOffice online
Hi, Sophi, (thanks to Gulhem) it is also displayed fully localized into Slovenian, so it seems to work fine. Thanks & best regards, m. V V pet., 28. feb. 2020 ob 16:34 je oseba sophi napisala: > Hi Milos, Martin, > Le 26/02/2020 à 11:41, Martin Srebotnjak a écrit : > > Hi, Miloš et. al., > > > > I believe the reason is that the LOOL on TDF nextcloud does not have > > langpacks for Slovak (nor for Slovenian) installed. > > If I am right, please do install these two langpacks. > > Both langpacks should be installed now (thanks to Guilhem :-). Let me > know if you meet issues. > Cheers > Sophie > -- > Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org > GSM: +33683901545 > IRC: sophi > Foundation coordinator > The Document Foundation > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
