Re: [libreoffice-l10n]

2022-11-07 Thread sophi

Hi David,
Le 05/11/2022 à 21:40, David A. Redick a écrit :

Hello!  It is my goal for 2023 to translate LibreOffice into Cherokee.

That's a great goal for you language and for LibreOffice :)


It looks like there are no previous nor current translations in weblate so
I'll have to start from the ground up.  I've read a few of the articles on the
wiki and I think the following is enough to get the ball rolling.


For Weblate, pleas let me know your username there, then I can create 
the language group. Cherokee already exists on Weblate, we need to 
populate the project there:

https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/chr/


English:Cherokee
Native Syllabary:   ᏣᎳᎩ
Romanized:  Tsalagi
Romanized with phonetic breaks: Tsa-la-gi
ISO 639-2:  chr
ISO 639-3:  chr

It is polysynthetic language, written from left to right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysynthetic_language

It spoken in by the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians (UKB) in Oklahoma,
the Cherokee Nation (CN) in Oklahoma and the Eastern Band of Cherokee
Indians (EBCI) in North Carolina.

There are dialectical differences and I will focused on what is
taught and spoken in North Carolina.

While the native script is supported by Unicode and LibreOffice Writer
(tested on GNU+Linux),
most real life signage typically has both English and Cherokee side by
side.  Some
may bold certain syllables in the Romanized form to aid with enunciation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_language#/media/File:Cwy_no_parking.jpg

If possible I would like to do something similar in LibreOffice.
Hopefully this will lower
the learning curve and give a lower barrier for self teachers.

It would make navigating the menus... interesting.  I'm open to
suggestions on how to best to do this.

Perhaps two translations projects/entries would be necessary one for
the native and one for the Romanized?
Do you know any other software already translated in Cherokee? First 
thing I could think is having the Romanized form as extended tips.
Not sure what is possible, Christian is currently on vacation, but I'll 
discuss with him when he is back.


Both the Tri-Council and UNESCO have acknowledged that the Tsalagi is
critically endangered so anything that would help "learning while
using" would be worth while.

https://theonefeather.com/2019/06/27/tri-council-declares-state-of-emergency-for-cherokee-language/

https://www.unesco.org/sites/default/files/medias/fichiers/2022/06/redirect_new_world_atlas_of_languages_en.pdf


Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

2022-11-07 Thread sophi

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:50, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:19, Kevin Suo a écrit :

Hi Sophie,


 > This is something you can do by yourself (or the translators in 
your team). I searched for the string and it seems it's already the 
good link that is shown in master, see:
 > 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/instsetoo_nativeinc_openofficewindowsmsi_languages/zh_Hans/?checksum=41730b607260afdb

 > If you could provide the KeyID of the string, that would help :)


No, it is not that string on weblate. What I mean is that, when I 
click on the Help > Get Help Online menu item, the following webpage 
opens:


https://hub.libreoffice.org/forum/?LOlocale=zh-CN


And then it was immediately redirected to another link which may have 
been defined in somewhere else other then weblate. I remember some 
years ago there was a email requesting that the l10n team provide the 
support link for their language, and we have provided 
https://bbs.libreofficechina.org/. However, now we want to switch to 
https://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ as it 
provides more support channels.


Ok, thanks, let me research on that, and I'll come back to you.


So the hub is managed by the infra team, so I asked Guilhem to change 
the link. I'll let you know when it's done.

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

2022-11-07 Thread sophi

Hi Stanislav, Olivier,

Le 05/11/2022 à 23:20, Stanislav Horáček a écrit :

Hi,

in such cases as this, I would suggest you to submit an issue to Redmine 
for infrastructure [1] - most of problems I reported there was resolved 
quickly.


However, we had the same "Get Help" request for our language [2] and 
nothing has happened for two years. (And now it is not so urgent as we 
have now a new documentation webpage instead of previous missing one.)


Best regards,
Stanislav

[1] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/projects/infrastructure
[2] https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/3301


@Olivier, could you answer Guilhem on the issue above so we can make 
progress :) Thanks in advance!

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

2022-11-07 Thread sophi

Le 07/11/2022 à 18:19, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:50, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:19, Kevin Suo a écrit :

Hi Sophie,


 > This is something you can do by yourself (or the translators in 
your team). I searched for the string and it seems it's already the 
good link that is shown in master, see:
 > 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/instsetoo_nativeinc_openofficewindowsmsi_languages/zh_Hans/?checksum=41730b607260afdb

 > If you could provide the KeyID of the string, that would help :)


No, it is not that string on weblate. What I mean is that, when I 
click on the Help > Get Help Online menu item, the following webpage 
opens:


https://hub.libreoffice.org/forum/?LOlocale=zh-CN


And then it was immediately redirected to another link which may have 
been defined in somewhere else other then weblate. I remember some 
years ago there was a email requesting that the l10n team provide the 
support link for their language, and we have provided 
https://bbs.libreofficechina.org/. However, now we want to switch to 
https://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ as it 
provides more support channels.


Ok, thanks, let me research on that, and I'll come back to you.


So the hub is managed by the infra team, so I asked Guilhem to change 
the link. I'll let you know when it's done.


It's now done, thanks to Guilhem :)
Cheers
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Redirecting of the Get Help link for zh-CN

2022-11-07 Thread Kevin Suo

I verify that it works now. Thnak you!


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Le 07/11/2022 à 18:19, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:50, sophi a écrit :

Hi Kevin,
Le 04/11/2022 à 13:19, Kevin Suo a écrit :

Hi Sophie,


 > This is something you can do by yourself (or the translators in 
your team). I searched for the string and it seems it's already the 
good link that is shown in master, see:
 > 
https://translations.documentfoundation.org/translate/libo_ui-master/instsetoo_nativeinc_openofficewindowsmsi_languages/zh_Hans/?checksum=41730b607260afdb

 > If you could provide the KeyID of the string, that would help :)


No, it is not that string on weblate. What I mean is that, when I 
click on the Help > Get Help Online menu item, the following webpage 
opens:


https://hub.libreoffice.org/forum/?LOlocale=zh-CN


And then it was immediately redirected to another link which may 
have been defined in somewhere else other then weblate. I remember 
some years ago there was a email requesting that the l10n team 
provide the support link for their language, and we have provided 
https://bbs.libreofficechina.org/. However, now we want to switch to 
https://zh-cn.libreoffice.org/get-help/community-support/ as it 
provides more support channels.


Ok, thanks, let me research on that, and I'll come back to you.


So the hub is managed by the infra team, so I asked Guilhem to change 
the link. I'll let you know when it's done.


It's now done, thanks to Guilhem :)
Cheers
Sophie
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