Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [ANNOUNCE] Locale data date acceptance patterns, localizers HEADS UP please :)

2012-01-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Eike Rathke wrote:

If in your locale input of incomplete/abbreviated dates shall be
allowed, this will need aDateAcceptancePattern  element be added to
locale data, for example in en-US it's M/D and in de-DE it's D.M.


I'd say that Italian (it) uses D/M; e.g., today's date would be 
commonly written as 12/1 in Italian.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Online update service + localized download URLs

2012-01-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 02/01/2012 Jan Holesovsky wrote:

Please - can you fill in the following form for your language, and send
back to me?

Language: [lang code, like 'en', 'fr', 'de', ...]
Download page: [equivalent of http://www.libreoffice.org/download/]
Pre-release download page: [equivalent of 
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/]


Language: it
Download page: http://it.libreoffice.org/download/
Pre-release download page: http://it.libreoffice.org/download/pre-release

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] l10n bugs in bugzilla

2011-12-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 02/12/2011 Andras Timar wrote:

Can you please help to clean up Localization category of LibreOffice
bugzilla? ...
Italian:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33795


Fixed, thanks.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Like to have moire space for an option string

2011-06-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/06/2011 André Schnabel wrote:
 See https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38007 ...
 I just want to know if 
 there are any concerns from the design team - or if other languages are 
 affected as well and would like to have more space there.

Same for Italian, but I see the fix has already been integrated and the
Italian string (Dimensione) is shorter than the German one
(Schriftgrad) so this should already be OK in Italian too.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Extensions

2011-06-01 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marc Paré wrote:
 The extensions site is still working, but it is an Oracle run site

It isn't (even though it must be the fifth time or so that I have to
write this, so you are in good company in thinking wrong!). See the same
thread you linked to, namely
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.libreoffice.website/4753

 and the server is slow and unpredictable. But you can still access it

This is true. But problems are totally unrelated to Oracle. OSUOSL
support is working on it, but quite slowly.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Nationality independence ? Look at flags in new dictionaries in beta4

2011-05-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Andras Timar wrote:
 2011/5/10 Alexander Thurgood ...:
  I was under the impression that we were nationality neutral, by which
  I mean that we did not use national flags to represent languages.
 
 Thanks for the bugreport, I removed the national flags.

I can't check whether this includes the Italian dictionary, but if it
does I would keep the flag, which is closely related to our language,
has been there for a long time and is completely politically
correct (nobody ever would question associating the Italian language
with the Italian flag, and nobody ever did); I understand this may be
very different for other languages, but doing it for Italian seems quite
useless at best.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Theme tema, motivo?

2011-04-23 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
 2011/4/23 Valter Mura valterm...@gmail.com
  In data sabato 23 aprile 2011 00:49:00, Andrea Pescetti ha scritto:
   Valter Mura ha scritto:
ho un dubbio nella traduzione ...
 Ne vem, mogoče pa res.

Sorry, Valter posted here in error and I didn't notice I was replying on
the international list... It was a terminology issue to be discussed on
the Italian list and we will move the discussion there!

Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Theme tema, motivo?

2011-04-22 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Valter Mura ha scritto:
 ho un dubbio nella traduzione: theme viene tradotto con argomento in OOo.
 Lo traduciamo come tema o motivo, riferito alla Galleria?
 Propenderei per motivo

Va bene, ma non cambiamo terminologia rispetto a OOo. Se lo vuoi
cambiare, cambiamolo in OOo e poi replichiamo la correzione in
LibreOffice altrimenti introduciamo noi stessi dei conflitti inutili.

Tra l'altro, anche Limiti, sempre nella gallery, non mi pare una
scelta molto fortunata, proporrei Delimitatori.

Ciao,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Translations from Pootle pushed to git (for 3.4 beta2), bugs to fix

2011-04-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Martin Srebotnjak wrote:
 2011/4/19 Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com
  This is not a false positive. You need to translate Heading and Title
  to different words, otherwise you'll have troubles with default styles
 ... I don't care what your script says but for Slovenian this is not an error 
 -
 it would be an error if those strings had a different translation.

OK, but using the same word (which, by mistake, we did in Italian too)
will break styles, as already explained, and anyway lead to unforeseen
behaviour, since the code seems to assume that style names are all
distinct. A very similar issue was fixed as a blocker for OpenOffice.org
3.3.0 Italian
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=115232
and indeed, as Christian suggests in your case too, we decided to use a
periphrasis.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Rename datapilot to Pivot Table?

2011-04-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 14/04/2011 Andre Schnabel wrote:
 PivotTable as trademark of Microsoft Corporation. Within the last
 years this was always named as reason why OOo needs to use the term
 Datapilot - I have no idea if (and how) this situation did change 
 recently.

The text only concerns PivotTable written this way, not the concept of
Pivot Tables or their name. I filed this bug back in February
http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=116757
and OpenOffice.org should have renamed all instances of PivotTable to
Pivot and kept Pivot Table (with space) as replacement of
DataPilot.

 In fact there might be an agreement between Oracle and MS
 which covers OOo

This seems really far-fetched... With the same likelihood, Novell could
have negotiated an indemnity for its commercial version of LibreOffice
or for all versions. I'm sure it's better to leave our imagination out
of the issue, and check the facts in the above issue page; and, if in
doubt, indeed act conservatively as you suggest. But to the best of my
knowledge, the wording as it is in OpenOffice.org should be OK now.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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[libreoffice-l10n] Re: [Libreoffice] Utility to scan for some faults in Thesaurus files

2011-01-29 Thread Andrea Pescetti
(sorry, forwarding out of thread since the mailing list manager did not
like cross-posting; if you just need the tool and don't want to use git,
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-January/006766.html )

On 29/01/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Steve Butler wrote:
  The l10n guys said they needed this utility in git as their list does
  not allow attachments.  I will leave it up to your wisdom as to where
  to put it.
 
 Thanks, I just used the version you attached to test the Italian
 thesaurus th_it_IT_v2.dat, that I maintain, and (expectedly, since you
 hadn't listed it as problematic) it found no issues.
 
 Regards,
   Andrea.
 
 


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] panel icon tip text incorrect and not translated

2011-01-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Milos Sramek wrote:
 The office productivity suite compatible to the open and standardized
 ODF document format. Supported by Sun Microsystems.
 ...
 Sun Microsystems should be replaced by TDF.

Would it be accurate to say Supported by TDF? It's the kind of
sentence where I, at least, would expect to read a company name, since I
read it as You can have professional support by (COMPANY); probably
I'd rather suppress the whole Supported by ... part, unless the
sentence is already used somewhere else or someone finds it really
useful.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Mailing list postings now with Archived-At header (direkt links to the corresponding message in the archive)

2010-11-14 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 starting from now, all mails posted to the libreoffice mailinglists
 will have an Archived-At header pointing to the corresponding message
 in the archive at mail-archive.com.

Nice and very useful, thanks!

I would find it more appealing to link to the existing archives in the
libreoffice.org hierarchy, but this is merely an aesthetic/branding
preference and I understand this is not easy to implement, so
mail-archive.com will be absolutely OK.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Dictionaries

2010-10-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 06/10/2010 Leif Lodahl wrote:
 Exactly my problem too. The issue:
 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=110784
 The community sponsored a developer to make the thesaurus and we can't get
 it integrated in OpenOffice.org.

I see now in the issue that it is scheduled for integration in OOo (on
the next available release which is OOo 3.4). The integration in
LibreOffice had the effect to speed up things at OpenOffice.org,
perhaps!

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Dictionaries

2010-10-06 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 05/10/2010 leif wrote:
 The Danish project produced a
 new thesaurus about 6 months ago but it has not yet been able to get it
 pre-installed in OOo. It would be a real scoop for LibreOffice

Do you have the OpenOffice.org issue number for your request of
integration in OOo?

Years ago, the Italian OpenOffice.org N-L Project had a very hard time
(endless legal reviews) for including its thesaurus in OpenOffice.org,
but I was hoping that other thesauri with compatible licensing terms,
like yours, could be integrated easily these times. Then I heard that
Oracle had blocked the new submissions (but not updates: I was able to
get an updated Italian dictionary and thesaurus in, a couple of weeks
ago), and I'm curious about this; this is why I'm asking for the issue
number.

Regards,
  Andrea Pescetti.

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