[libreoffice-l10n] Manual tests

2010-12-29 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,

So, with the help of the German team, and Jean-Baptiste Faure of the 
Francophone team, I've finished to translate the manual tests page on 
the wiki:

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Manual_Tests

It's very light TCS that I ask you to run before the final release for 
your language. Thanks in advance if you can do so.


We, the FR team, will be thinking/working on some tooling for a future 
TCM, may be on the Sivlerstripe CMS. We'll work first on the specs that 
will be based on the feedback you made on the OOoTCM. In any cases we 
would like to have something workable at least at the end of the next 
three months, so if you have ideas, time and resources to dedicate here, 
don't hesitate to jump in :-)


Kind regards
Sophie


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Manual tests

2010-12-29 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hi, Sophie,

2010/12/29 Sophie Gautier 

> Hi all,
>
> So, with the help of the German team, and Jean-Baptiste Faure of the
> Francophone team, I've finished to translate the manual tests page on the
> wiki:
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Manual_Tests
>
> It's very light TCS that I ask you to run before the final release for your
> language. Thanks in advance if you can do so.
>
>
Is RC2 planned to be THE release? It does not point to the localized help in
wiki, the wiki help doesn't seem to be contextual and the license displayed
in the help menu has a preamble that is getting localizable as we speak.
I believe at least RC3 and maybe RC4 may be necessary.

I would believe that if we are to OK the multilang installers they need to
have the installer language selector at the beginning of installation. If
they don't, the package can only be okayed by the English team.

I still do not understand why there are two concepts:
- OSX + Linux: download English base pack, then langpack including help
- Windows: download multilang base pack with multiple language UIs, then the
needed langpack
I would prefer if Windows would follow the first model.
If help can be on wiki, why couldn't the installer download the desired help
pack or lang pack during the installation of the main package? Wouldn't that
be the best way?

Also, I propose and hope there will be a dialog added for the first use of
online help (pressing F1 first time when help pack was not installed),
warning the user that offline help package for the GUI language is not
installed and that LO will now redirect user for help to the browser and the
LO wiki page. It should also point where the localized help can be
downloaded from if the user so choses.

Lp, m.

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Manual tests

2010-12-29 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi Martin,
On 29/12/2010 20:09, Martin Srebotnjak wrote:

Hi, Sophie,

2010/12/29 Sophie Gautier


Hi all,

So, with the help of the German team, and Jean-Baptiste Faure of the
Francophone team, I've finished to translate the manual tests page on the
wiki:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Manual_Tests

It's very light TCS that I ask you to run before the final release for your
language. Thanks in advance if you can do so.



Is RC2 planned to be THE release?


No, no, no :-) not at all.
It does not point to the localized help in

wiki, the wiki help doesn't seem to be contextual and the license displayed
in the help menu has a preamble that is getting localizable as we speak.
I believe at least RC3 and maybe RC4 may be necessary.


yes I agree, and nobody said the contrary. I'm sorry if my mail seems to 
say that RC2 is the final. It's only the tests that are in this state.


I would believe that if we are to OK the multilang installers they need to
have the installer language selector at the beginning of installation. If
they don't, the package can only be okayed by the English team.

I still do not understand why there are two concepts:
- OSX + Linux: download English base pack, then langpack including help
- Windows: download multilang base pack with multiple language UIs, then the
needed langpack
I would prefer if Windows would follow the first model.
If help can be on wiki, why couldn't the installer download the desired help
pack or lang pack during the installation of the main package? Wouldn't that
be the best way?


Yes, and as Andras pointed there is still issues with the multilingu 
install (or the build with -all languages if I understand well)


Also, I propose and hope there will be a dialog added for the first use of
online help (pressing F1 first time when help pack was not installed),
warning the user that offline help package for the GUI language is not
installed and that LO will now redirect user for help to the browser and the
LO wiki page. It should also point where the localized help can be
downloaded from if the user so choses.


Could you fill an issue for that? I'm afraid otherwise nobody will 
follow/answer your request. Thanks Martin for your feedback.


Kind regards
Sophie

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[libreoffice-l10n] Manual tests for basic QA on our versions

2010-12-07 Thread Sophie Gautier

Hi all,

I've translated the manual tests that the German group has written here:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Manual_Tests

You may adapt them to your language if you want, but please, don't 
forget to test the version in your language, even with very simple, 
basics and short tests.

Thanks :)

I hope that some day we will have a new TCM, easy to use and efficient 
for our languages ;)


Kind regards
Sophie

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