Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
Hello Andras, I have file a bug at[1] with modified locale for the sort order. [1] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65809 Regards, On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, On Friday, 2013-06-14 08:31:11 +0200, Andras Timar wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Tadele Assefa milky...@gmail.com wrote: Our Language, Sidama, uses the latin script. However, there are additional consonants which are formed by using two letter combinations. Eg ph is considered one consonant and so are sh, ch, zh, ts, ny. These constants are ordered after the first constant used to create them. Our alphabet reads, a,b,c,ch,d,dh, e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,ny,o,p,etc As a result, we want to sort string using this order. eg the words cala, chala, cola should be sorted cala, cola,chala... ch has to come after c. So, how can we include this behavior in LO? You need to add the rules to LC_INDEX section of your locale. (i18npool/source/localedata/data/sid_ET.xml) Well, yes, but the IndexKey element is only used for Writer's index table feature. General sorting uses collation, defaulting to ICU's Unicode collation rules. If Unicode did not define these exemptions for 'sid' or ICU didn't implement it yet then we'd have to add a language specific rule to i18npool/source/collator/data/ See a working solution (Hungarian) at: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/hu_HU.xml#205 Btw, why does that opengrok instance not understand UTF-8? Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GPG key ID: 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A For key transition see http://erack.de/key-transition-2013-01-10.txt.asc Support the FSFE, care about Free Software! https://fsfe.org/support/?erack -- Regards,* ___ Tadele Assefa Managing Director* * Cell: +25-911-84-13-84* *Think Green – Please do not print this email unless you really need to* -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
Hello, On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Tadele Assefa milky...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Our Language, Sidama, uses the latin script. However, there are additional consonants which are formed by using two letter combinations. Eg ph is considered one consonant and so are sh, ch, zh, ts, ny. These constants are ordered after the first constant used to create them. Our alphabet reads, a,b,c,ch,d,dh, e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,ny,o,p,etc As a result, we want to sort string using this order. eg the words cala, chala, cola should be sorted cala, cola,chala... ch has to come after c. So, how can we include this behavior in LO? You need to add the rules to LC_INDEX section of your locale. (i18npool/source/localedata/data/sid_ET.xml) See a working solution (Hungarian) at: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/hu_HU.xml#205 If you can't submit a patch, please file a bug. Best regards, Andras -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
*The Hungarian LC_INDEX*
LC_INDEX
IndexKey phonetic=false default=true unoid=charsetA(A, Á)
B C {Cs} D {DZ} {DZS} E(E, É) F G {Gy} H I(I, Í) J-L {Ly} -N {Ny}
O(O, Ó) Ő(Ö, Ő) P-S {Sz} T {Ty} U(U, Ú) Ű(Ü, Ű) V-Z {Zs}/IndexKey
UnicodeScript0/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript1/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript2/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript3/UnicodeScript
FollowPageWordp./FollowPageWord
FollowPageWordpp./FollowPageWord
/LC_INDEX
*LC_INDEX for Sidama*
IndexKey phonetic=false default=true
unoid=alphanumericA-Z/IndexKey
UnicodeScript0/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript1/UnicodeScript
FollowPageWordSTP/FollowPageWord
FollowPageWordStO/FollowPageWord
/LC_INDEX
I couldn't find any documentation but I'm guessing you should first change
the unoid value to charset, what's Sidama status regarding Unicode?
Yaron Shahrabani
Hebrew translator
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Tadele Assefa milky...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Our Language, Sidama, uses the latin script. However, there are
additional
consonants which are formed by using two letter combinations. Eg ph is
considered one consonant and so are sh, ch, zh, ts, ny. These constants
are
ordered after the first constant used to create them. Our alphabet
reads,
a,b,c,ch,d,dh, e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,ny,o,p,etc
As a result, we want to sort string using this order. eg the words
cala, chala, cola should be sorted cala, cola,chala... ch has to come
after
c.
So, how can we include this behavior in LO?
You need to add the rules to LC_INDEX section of your locale.
(i18npool/source/localedata/data/sid_ET.xml)
See a working solution (Hungarian) at:
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/hu_HU.xml#205
If you can't submit a patch, please file a bug.
Best regards,
Andras
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
Ignore the Unicode question, you've already answered it ☺
Yaron Shahrabani
Hebrew translator
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.comwrote:
*The Hungarian LC_INDEX*
LC_INDEX
IndexKey phonetic=false default=true unoid=charsetA(A, Á) B C
{Cs} D {DZ} {DZS} E(E, É) F G {Gy} H I(I, Í) J-L {Ly} -N {Ny} O(O, Ó) Ő(Ö,
Ő) P-S {Sz} T {Ty} U(U, Ú) Ű(Ü, Ű) V-Z {Zs}/IndexKey
UnicodeScript0/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript1/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript2/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript3/UnicodeScript
FollowPageWordp./FollowPageWord
FollowPageWordpp./FollowPageWord
/LC_INDEX
*LC_INDEX for Sidama*
IndexKey phonetic=false default=true
unoid=alphanumericA-Z/IndexKey
UnicodeScript0/UnicodeScript
UnicodeScript1/UnicodeScript
FollowPageWordSTP/FollowPageWord
FollowPageWordStO/FollowPageWord
/LC_INDEX
I couldn't find any documentation but I'm guessing you should first change
the unoid value to charset, what's Sidama status regarding Unicode?
Yaron Shahrabani
Hebrew translator
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Andras Timar tima...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Tadele Assefa milky...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dear All,
Our Language, Sidama, uses the latin script. However, there are
additional
consonants which are formed by using two letter combinations. Eg ph is
considered one consonant and so are sh, ch, zh, ts, ny. These constants
are
ordered after the first constant used to create them. Our alphabet
reads,
a,b,c,ch,d,dh, e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,ny,o,p,etc
As a result, we want to sort string using this order. eg the words
cala, chala, cola should be sorted cala, cola,chala... ch has to come
after
c.
So, how can we include this behavior in LO?
You need to add the rules to LC_INDEX section of your locale.
(i18npool/source/localedata/data/sid_ET.xml)
See a working solution (Hungarian) at:
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/hu_HU.xml#205
If you can't submit a patch, please file a bug.
Best regards,
Andras
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
Citēts Yaron Shahrabani sh.ya...@gmail.com Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:06:49 +0300: Ignore the Unicode question, you've already answered it ☺ to my mind - it would be much betted if you submit locale data through http://www.it46.se/localegen/ - then there is a chance you locale data will spread a lot wider. Of course, you language must possess respective language code in, for example, ISO 639-3. Is it Sidamo (http://www.ethnologue.com/language/sid) or Sidama? Janis -- http://dict.dv.lv http://tehvi.dv.lv -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
Hi, On Friday, 2013-06-14 08:31:11 +0200, Andras Timar wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Tadele Assefa milky...@gmail.com wrote: Our Language, Sidama, uses the latin script. However, there are additional consonants which are formed by using two letter combinations. Eg ph is considered one consonant and so are sh, ch, zh, ts, ny. These constants are ordered after the first constant used to create them. Our alphabet reads, a,b,c,ch,d,dh, e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,ny,o,p,etc As a result, we want to sort string using this order. eg the words cala, chala, cola should be sorted cala, cola,chala... ch has to come after c. So, how can we include this behavior in LO? You need to add the rules to LC_INDEX section of your locale. (i18npool/source/localedata/data/sid_ET.xml) Well, yes, but the IndexKey element is only used for Writer's index table feature. General sorting uses collation, defaulting to ICU's Unicode collation rules. If Unicode did not define these exemptions for 'sid' or ICU didn't implement it yet then we'd have to add a language specific rule to i18npool/source/collator/data/ See a working solution (Hungarian) at: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/i18npool/source/localedata/data/hu_HU.xml#205 Btw, why does that opengrok instance not understand UTF-8? Eike -- LibreOffice Calc developer. Number formatter stricken i18n transpositionizer. GPG key ID: 0x65632D3A - 2265 D7F3 A7B0 95CC 3918 630B 6A6C D5B7 6563 2D3A For key transition see http://erack.de/key-transition-2013-01-10.txt.asc Support the FSFE, care about Free Software! https://fsfe.org/support/?erack -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-l10n] Sort Order in Calc
Dear All, Our Language, Sidama, uses the latin script. However, there are additional consonants which are formed by using two letter combinations. Eg ph is considered one consonant and so are sh, ch, zh, ts, ny. These constants are ordered after the first constant used to create them. Our alphabet reads, a,b,c,ch,d,dh, e,f,g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,ny,o,p,etc As a result, we want to sort string using this order. eg the words cala, chala, cola should be sorted cala, cola,chala... ch has to come after c. So, how can we include this behavior in LO? -- Regards, *Tadele* -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
