Re: Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?

2014-11-26 Thread Jesper Hertel 
Ah, interesting! Thank you all for your information.

I can observe that if I select a *Chart object* in Writer (4.4.0.0 alpha2)
and choose File | Save As…, the only suggested file type is ODF Chart
(*.odc). (This could very well confuse average users, as they probably
expect to be always able to save their Writer document as a Writer document
and not a Chart document. They are probably not aware that the difference
is that they just happened to select a Chart object before saving. I would
suggest presenting a dialog box to sort out this situation first, asking
the user if she wants to save the Chart object alone or the whole Writer
document.)

In Windows, when I then save the Chart object, it results in a *.odc file
(a *Chart document*, I assume). That file is *not associated with
LibreOffice* in the file system, and Excel tries to open it when I
double-click it; Excel then reports an error and fails to open it.

When I try to open the just saved *Chart document *file in LibreOffice
(4.4.0.0 alpha2), via File | Open, I get a completely empty Chart opened in
the LibreOffice Chart application. So even LibreOffice cannot open its own
*.odc files, it seems. But maybe that is just a bug in the alpha version?

After having saved a *Chart object *as a *Chart document*, the Writer
document also gets the file name of the *Chart document*, including the
Chart document extension, which seems very odd to me. And when I add more
text to the Writer document and press Ctrl+S to save again, the Writer file
name stays the same, so the Writer document seems to be saved as a Chart
document? Or maybe just with a Chart document file extension? But how can a
Writer document suddenly be saved as a Chart document?


But, back to the actual translation: Do all those 19 strings

really only apply to *.odc *Chart* *documents *but never to *Chart objects*?
And if so, how can that be? It doesn't make much sense to me. Isn't a Chart
document just a Chart object wrapped in a file?

From the information I have been given until now, I would still say, as
originally stated, that the text of those 19 strings should read "chart
object" and not "chart document".


Jesper


2014-11-26 12:34 GMT+01:00 Olivier Hallot :

> Hi
>
> On 26/11/2014 06:49, Sophie wrote:
> > There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in
> > LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here:
> > https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats
> > Kind regards
> > Sophie
>
> Actually you can save a chart (once inside it) as odc file.
>
> You can load the odc file and get your chart displayed in LibreOffice
> Chart.
>
> However, LibreOffice Chart is a bit clumsy at the moment. Thre is room
> for improvement.
>
> Regards
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> http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br
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Re: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?

2014-11-26 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
Also in this string it might make more sense if there is a "the".  "Choose
tab" is not great, "Choose the tab" or "Choose a tab" is better.

Choose Format - Chart Wall - Transparency tab

would be better as

Choose the Format - Chart Wall - Transparency tab

Regards from
Tom :)




On 26 November 2014 at 08:49, Sophie  wrote:

> Hi,
> Should have gone to the list, sorry
>
>
> ---- Message transféré ----
> Sujet : Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?
> Date : Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:46:32 +0100
> De : Sophie 
> Pour : Jesper Hertel 
>
> Hi Jesper
> Le 26/11/2014 01:16, Jesper Hertel a écrit :
> > Okay, so there are actually *19 places *where these mysterious "chart
> > documents" are mentioned:
> >
> >
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20document&sfields=source&soptions=exact
> >
> > (I search for exact phrase because it is faster, so I left out the c/C in
> > "chart" in the search).
> >
> > I wonder what is right. I just never heard of "chart documents", and I
> > cannot find any in LibreOffice 4.4 when I look around. Under File | New…
> I
> > cannot create a new "Chart document"…?
> >
> > Jesper
> >
> >
> > 2014-11-26 1:09 GMT+01:00 Jesper Hertel :
> >
> >> There is an English string that I find strange in LibreOffice 4.4:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=Transpar&sfields=source,target&soptions=exact&unit=28584506
> >>
> >> Kontekst:
> >>
> >> 00040502.xhp par_id3151117 143 help.text
> >> Kommentarer:
> >>
> >>
> >> CssFG
> >>
> >> The text for this string says
> >>
> >> "Choose Format - Chart Wall - Transparency tab (chart
> >> *documents*)"
> >>
> >> Shouldn't that be:
> >>
> >> "Choose Format - Chart Wall - Transparency tab (chart
> >> *objects*)"?
> >>
> >> As far as I know, there are no "chart documents" in LibreOffice, but
> there
> >> are chart objects, and the text does apply to chart objects.
>
> There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in
> LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats
> Kind regards
> Sophie
>
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> The Document Foundation
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Re: Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?

2014-11-26 Thread Olivier Hallot 
Hi

On 26/11/2014 06:49, Sophie wrote:
> There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in
> LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats
> Kind regards
> Sophie

Actually you can save a chart (once inside it) as odc file.

You can load the odc file and get your chart displayed in LibreOffice Chart.

However, LibreOffice Chart is a bit clumsy at the moment. Thre is room
for improvement.

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Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?

2014-11-26 Thread Sophie 
Hi,
Should have gone to the list, sorry


 Message transféré 
Sujet : Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: Error in English string?
Date : Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:46:32 +0100
De : Sophie 
Pour : Jesper Hertel 

Hi Jesper
Le 26/11/2014 01:16, Jesper Hertel a écrit :
> Okay, so there are actually *19 places *where these mysterious "chart
> documents" are mentioned:
> 
> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=hart%20document&sfields=source&soptions=exact
> 
> (I search for exact phrase because it is faster, so I left out the c/C in
> "chart" in the search).
> 
> I wonder what is right. I just never heard of "chart documents", and I
> cannot find any in LibreOffice 4.4 when I look around. Under File | New… I
> cannot create a new "Chart document"…?
> 
> Jesper
> 
> 
> 2014-11-26 1:09 GMT+01:00 Jesper Hertel :
> 
>> There is an English string that I find strange in LibreOffice 4.4:
>>
>>
>> https://translations.documentfoundation.org/da/libo_help/translate/#search=Transpar&sfields=source,target&soptions=exact&unit=28584506
>>
>> Kontekst:
>>
>> 00040502.xhp par_id3151117 143 help.text
>> Kommentarer:
>>
>>
>> CssFG
>>
>> The text for this string says
>>
>> "Choose Format - Chart Wall - Transparency tab (chart
>> *documents*)"
>>
>> Shouldn't that be:
>>
>> "Choose Format - Chart Wall - Transparency tab (chart
>> *objects*)"?
>>
>> As far as I know, there are no "chart documents" in LibreOffice, but there
>> are chart objects, and the text does apply to chart objects.

There is a chart file format .odc which is currently not in use in
LibreOffice but it exists in ODF, see here:
https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/XML_File_Formats
Kind regards
Sophie

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Tel:+33683901545
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The Document Foundation



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