Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-03-03 Thread Valter Mura
28 feb 2022 14:45:25 sophi :


>Hi Valter,
>Le 26/02/2022 à 18:24, Valter Mura a écrit :
>> In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
>>> issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
>>> the most important for your team.
>>> 
>>> Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
>>> what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
>>> others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
>>> tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!
>> 
>> Hi Sophie
>> thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.


>Thanks for your feedback :)
>> However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during 
>> the
>> suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:
>> 
>> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1] >
>> but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in 
>> order to verify 
the
>> issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or 
>> a program's bug.


>I'll talk about it with Christian. Is it happening since a long time or is it 
>new?
>Cheers
>Sophie


Hi Sophi


As far as I remember, we are experiencing this problem since, at least, the 
last 3 sessions 
of translation. I received another feedback form the developer.


Here it is:
"You can also ask them for upgrade, it might address some issues as well ;-). 
There were 
several performance improvements to labels or variants in case you happen to 
use these."


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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-03-03 Thread sophi

Hi Valter,
Le 03/03/2022 à 17:33, Valter Mura a écrit :

28 feb 2022 14:45:25 sophi :


Hi Valter,
Le 26/02/2022 à 18:24, Valter Mura a écrit :

In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!


Hi Sophie
thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.



Thanks for your feedback :)

However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during the
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1] >
but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order 
to verify

the

issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a 
program's bug.



I'll talk about it with Christian. Is it happening since a long time or is it 
new?
Cheers
Sophie


Hi Sophi

As far as I remember, we are experiencing this problem since, at least, the 
last 3 sessions
of translation. I received another feedback form the developer.


Thanks for the additional information, I'll give them to Cloph who is 
searching what might be wrong in our instance.


Here it is:
"You can also ask them for upgrade, it might address some issues as well ;-). 
There were
several performance improvements to labels or variants in case you happen to use 
these."


We are now at 4.8.1 and Christian will very soon upgrade to the latest 
version

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-28 Thread Yaron Shahrabani
Hi,
I want to vote for something that I'm not sure I've seen on the list:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2969
Dark (Night) theme for Weblate, Sadly it's not divided in tasks but there
are some attempts.

Thanks.
Yaron Shahrabani





On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 11:14 PM Stanislav Horáček <
stanislav.hora...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Dne 23. 02. 22 v 9:47 sophi napsal(a):
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
> > issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
> > the most important for your team.
> >
> > Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
> > what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
> > others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
> > tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!
> >
>
> in my opinion, resolving these issues would help a lot (sorted from most
> important):
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
> Improved presentation of differences in machine translations
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
> Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
> Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a
> suggestion
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
> Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a
> per-language basis
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
> Nested projects or project grouping
>
>
> I can also confirm the annoying issue reported by Valter (maybe TDF
> instance specific?):
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300
>
> Thanks you,
> Stanislav
>
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-28 Thread Stanislav Horáček

Hi,

Dne 23. 02. 22 v 9:47 sophi napsal(a):

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate 
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be 
the most important for your team.


Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is 
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have 
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other 
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!




in my opinion, resolving these issues would help a lot (sorted from most 
important):


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
Improved presentation of differences in machine translations

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a 
suggestion


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a 
per-language basis


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
Nested projects or project grouping


I can also confirm the annoying issue reported by Valter (maybe TDF 
instance specific?):

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300

Thanks you,
Stanislav

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-28 Thread sophi

Hi Valter,
Le 26/02/2022 à 18:24, Valter Mura a écrit :

In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!



Hi Sophie

thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.


Thanks for your feedback :)


However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during the
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1] >
but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order 
to verify the
issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a 
program's bug.


I'll talk about it with Christian. Is it happening since a long time or 
is it new?

Cheers
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-26 Thread Valter Mura
In data mercoledì 23 febbraio 2022 09:47:03 CET, sophi ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> 
> The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
> issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
> the most important for your team.
> 
> Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
> what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
> others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
> tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!


Hi Sophie

thanks for this report. For us, all issues are worthy of interest.

However, I opened a new issue for a slowness experimented by our team during 
the 
suggestion's editing, which caused delay in our workflow:


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7300[1]

but one of the administrators replied to us to check the server's log in order 
to verify the 
issue. So, I ask to you to check if this is an issue of TDF Installation or a 
program's bug.
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7205
> unchanged translation flag notwithstanding glossary term marked as
> untranslatable
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
> Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5898
> Allow to update translation comments from UI
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5854
> Autofix Bangla/Bengali sentence ender to ।
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5842
> Shortcut for suggest
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5792
> Component lists in the selected language
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5447
> Per-language translation workflow setting
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
> Improved presentation of differences in machine translations
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4160
> Allow to filter on language in reports
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3455
> add Document Foundation identity provider
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
> Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a
> per-language basis
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3166
> Translation propagation
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2241
> Search who translates the same language
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2127
> Create Group Administration Permissions
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1994
> Check if two different strings share same translation
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
> Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a
> suggestion
> 
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
> Nested projects or project grouping
> 
> Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread Mihail Balabanov
Hi Sophie,

I am very happy to learn about this effort! My most wanted enhancements
among the mentioned ones would be these three:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
Improved presentation of differences in machine translations

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1861
Search should ignore hotkey symbols

Cheers,
Mihail


On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:49 AM sophi  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
> issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be
> the most important for your team.
>
> Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
> what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
> others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
> tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7205
> unchanged translation flag notwithstanding glossary term marked as
> untranslatable
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
> Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5898
> Allow to update translation comments from UI
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5854
> Autofix Bangla/Bengali sentence ender to ।
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5842
> Shortcut for suggest
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5792
> Component lists in the selected language
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5447
> Per-language translation workflow setting
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
> Improved presentation of differences in machine translations
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4160
> Allow to filter on language in reports
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3455
> add Document Foundation identity provider
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
> Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a
> per-language basis
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3166
> Translation propagation
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2241
> Search who translates the same language
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2127
> Create Group Administration Permissions
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1994
> Check if two different strings share same translation
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
> Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a
> suggestion
>
> https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
> Nested projects or project grouping
>
> Cheers
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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread Tuomas Hietala

Hello,

Thanks to the Board for this initiative.

For me the most important enhancement would be the this:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1861
Search should ignore hotkey symbols

However, it looks like it could be difficult to implement in Weblate's 
current architecture.


The following would be useful for translators who prefer to use external 
tools for translating:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5519
Glossary import and export with explanations

Might be interesting to TDF:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4551
Download in ODS file format

Tuomas

sophi kirjoitti 23.2.2022 10:47:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would
be the most important for your team.

Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread Tuomas Hietala

Hello Sophie,

sophi kirjoitti 23.2.2022 16:13:

Hi Olivier,

Answering in detail to your request,
Le 23/02/2022 à 14:13, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other 
words: to be able to go directly to


https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/

I guess this is what Tuomas requested on #5447


What I was referring to in that issue is described here: 
https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/workflows.html
Being able to set the translation workflow setting individually for each 
language could be useful if different language teams prefer different 
workflows. Currently in Weblate it's only possible to set it for all 
languages at once.


Best regards,
Tuomas



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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

On 23.2.2022 16.13, sophi wrote:

Answering in detail to your request,
Le 23/02/2022 à 14:13, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory 
Translation.


Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free 
machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare 
typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no 
match.


Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before 
committing translation.


You were in the team meeting yesterday when we discussed it. Before 
going there, we need to investigate on several topics. Following that, I 
wanted to open another thread to get feedback on Matecat that you 
proposed (thanks :). Testing it this morning, I see it covers a good 
list of languages and several formats. Compared to the others, it would 
remove the expensive costs of some or legal issues.


I looked more deeply into Matecat now - I never before managed to find 
information about the way it uses machine translation. It looks like 
Matecat itself will not give us any benefits. See these resources:


https://guides.matecat.com/my

"By default, we provide Google Translate API (we pay for it and offer it 
for free to Matecat users). If for any reason the Google Translate API 
is not available, we automatically switch to the Microsoft Bing API."


https://guides.matecat.com/machine-translation-engines

It looks like ModernMT is the system that is associated with Matecat 
creators:

https://guides.matecat.com/modernmt-mmt-plug-in

It is open source, even though it has a higher quality version for 
enterprises:

https://github.com/modernmt/modernmt

Weblate does support it, also with a self-hosted version:
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/main/weblate/machinery/modernmt.py
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1627#issuecomment-657171205

However, Weblate also supports LibreTranslate, which uses OpenNMT at its 
core:

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/blob/main/weblate/machinery/libretranslate.py
https://libretranslate.com/
https://github.com/LibreTranslate/LibreTranslate
https://github.com/argosopentech/argos-translate
https://opennmt.net/

Could you please also evaluate LibreTranslate in addition to ModernMT?

Ilmari

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread sophi

Hi Olivier,

Answering in detail to your request,
Le 23/02/2022 à 14:13, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other 
words: to be able to go directly to


https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/ 

I guess this is what Tuomas requested on #5447



without having to select language (menu Languages - pt-BR) and then 
click in LibreOfficeHelp - master.


2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory 
Translation.


Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free 
machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare 
typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no match.


Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before 
committing translation.


You were in the team meeting yesterday when we discussed it. Before 
going there, we need to investigate on several topics. Following that, I 
wanted to open another thread to get feedback on Matecat that you 
proposed (thanks :). Testing it this morning, I see it covers a good 
list of languages and several formats. Compared to the others, it would 
remove the expensive costs of some or legal issues.


3) Remove the extra duplicate Glossary projects I have in my weblate 
screen (I have 6 in the master UI project and 3 entries in the master Help)


We discussed this also already. If I remember well removing projects 
will remove duplicate glossaries (1 entry per project). Cloph will 
upgrade Weblate to 4.10 soon and I think (I'll ask him for confirmation) 
he will remove 7.0 and 7.1 at the same time.

@all: if you think 7.2 should be removed at the same time, let me know


Thanks for the nice work of the L10n team


+1000 :)

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread sophi

Hi Olivier,
Le 23/02/2022 à 14:13, Olivier Hallot a écrit :

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other 
words: to be able to go directly to


https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/ 



without having to select language (menu Languages - pt-BR) and then 
click in LibreOfficeHelp - master.


2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory 
Translation.


Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free 
machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare 
typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no match.


Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before 
committing translation.


3) Remove the extra duplicate Glossary projects I have in my weblate 
screen (I have 6 in the master UI project and 3 entries in the master Help)


Thanks for your suggestions, however the goal is to rank currently 
existing tickets. So please check if your issues are already in there or 
create a ticket if not.

Thanks in advance,
Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Weblate: help ranking what you need :)

2022-02-23 Thread Olivier Hallot

HI Sophie

My suggestions for weblate are

1) a link in the Weblate UI to go to the root of the project. In other 
words: to be able to go directly to


https://translations.documentfoundation.org/languages/pt_BR/libo_help-master/

without having to select language (menu Languages - pt-BR) and then 
click in LibreOfficeHelp - master.


2) Have Machine Translation as a suggestion alongside with Memory 
Translation.


Today, in Help long strings, I copy&pasta between Weblate and a free 
machine translation service (Google, Bing, Deepl, Matecat...) to spare 
typing effort especially when weblate memory translation returns no match.


Machine translation served as suggestion forces a second read before 
committing translation.


3) Remove the extra duplicate Glossary projects I have in my weblate 
screen (I have 6 in the master UI project and 3 entries in the master Help)


Thanks for the nice work of the L10n team
Olivier

Em 23/02/2022 05:47, sophi escreveu:

Hi all,

The Board would like to dedicate a budget to fund some Weblate 
issues/enhancements and I'd like to have your feedback on what would be 
the most important for your team.


Below is a list of tickets that I monitor on Weblate project. This is 
what I think would help l10n teams to work faster but you may have 
others in mind. So please review and rank the list. If you have other 
tickets, also add them in the ranking. Thanks a lot in advance!


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/7205
unchanged translation flag notwithstanding glossary term marked as 
untranslatable


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/6440
Translation Memory Maintenance - Delete Entries

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5898
Allow to update translation comments from UI

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5854
Autofix Bangla/Bengali sentence ender to ।

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5842
Shortcut for suggest

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5792
Component lists in the selected language

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/5447
Per-language translation workflow setting

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4368
Improved presentation of differences in machine translations

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/4160
Allow to filter on language in reports

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3455
add Document Foundation identity provider

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3242
Ability to download all translation memory from a given project in a 
per-language basis


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/3166
Translation propagation

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2241
Search who translates the same language

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/2127
Create Group Administration Permissions

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1994
Check if two different strings share same translation

https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/1661
Suggestion rejection reason: possibility of explaining why you reject a 
suggestion


https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/263
Nested projects or project grouping

Cheers
Sophie


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