Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-26 Thread Tal Daniel
2014.06.25, Andrea Pescetti rašė:

 On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:

 Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
 can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
 sites.
 Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
 {lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language


 Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.

 Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
 at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort in
 place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's sorted by
 English name, but since we don't show the English name this doesn't help
 the visitor.


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:

 In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
 practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
 then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.

 Good point, Andreas. I'll try that.
Interesting, that you chose Cyrillic second. Does it imply that Europe is
the center of the world? (first Latin, then Asia, then far east/west with
strange fonts :) I'm kidding, of course. Can you elaborate the order you
have in mind? i.e. what goes after Cyrillic?

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:


 Done for German, works great.

 Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)


Marcus, marcus, don't be greedy. But, now that you mention it, how about
fixing the CSS on Linux? Once, you mentioned there's too much
spacing/padding.


Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-26 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis


2014.06.26 14:13, Tal Daniel rašė:

2014.06.25, Andrea Pescetti rašė:

On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:


Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
sites.
Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language


Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.

Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort in
place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's sorted by
English name, but since we don't show the English name this doesn't help
the visitor.



On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:


In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.

Good point, Andreas. I'll try that.

Interesting, that you chose Cyrillic second. Does it imply that Europe is
the center of the world? (first Latin, then Asia, then far east/west with
strange fonts :) I'm kidding, of course. Can you elaborate the order you
have in mind? i.e. what goes after Cyrillic?
Am I being ethnocentric? By no means! :) I think a good logical point of 
reference for sorting the list are the percentages of native AOO users 
(i.e., the alphabets they're representing) as stated on the Download by 
Coutry page http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html.


You'll see that the countries using the Latin alphabet predominate. Than 
comes Russia (#8) accounting for one half of the Cyrillic world, then 
probably the logographic/pictrographic scripts.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Done for German, works great.

Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)


Marcus, marcus, don't be greedy. But, now that you mention it, how about
fixing the CSS on Linux? Once, you mentioned there's too much
spacing/padding.




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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-26 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis


2014.06.26 14:13, Tal Daniel rašė:

2014.06.25, Andrea Pescetti rašė:

On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:


Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
sites.
Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language


Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.

Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin
at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort in
place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's sorted by
English name, but since we don't show the English name this doesn't help
the visitor.



On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 12:10 AM, Aivaras Stepukonis wrote:


In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good
practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries,
then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.

Good point, Andreas. I'll try that.

Interesting, that you chose Cyrillic second. Does it imply that Europe is
the center of the world? (first Latin, then Asia, then far east/west with
strange fonts :) I'm kidding, of course. Can you elaborate the order you
have in mind? i.e. what goes after Cyrillic?
Am I being ethnocentric? By no means! :) I think a good logical point of 
reference for sorting the list are the percentages of native AOO users 
(i.e., the alphabets they're representing) as stated on the Download by 
Coutry page http://www.openoffice.org/stats/countries.html.


You'll see that the countries using the Latin alphabet predominate. Than 
comes Russia (#8) accounting for one half of the Cyrillic world, then 
probably the logographic/pictrographic scripts.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 Marcus (OOo) wrote:


Done for German, works great.

Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)


Marcus, marcus, don't be greedy. But, now that you mention it, how about
fixing the CSS on Linux? Once, you mentioned there's too much
spacing/padding.




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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-26 Thread Dick Groskamp

Tal Daniel schreef op 25-6-2014 17:40:

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Michal Hriň h...@apache.org wrote:


Hi, I tried it fastly, and I see that the English item is always
selected by default. When I change language to my native Slovak (or
whatever) on list is still selected English.
This implies, after language change you cannot go back to english site.


You need to define the 2 new variables in brand.mdtext, for Slovak to be
the default selection in the dropdown, in the Slovekian website. Until
then, use the Back button.

Dňa 25.06.2014 13:19, Tal Daniel  wrote / napísal(a):

  Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors

can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL
sites.

Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:

selectedlang: en *
language: Language **

(* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)

For example, choose Hebrew from the dropdown, or see /he/brand.mdtext, or
/xx/brand.mdtext.

Note: Native Languages link from the menu would probably be removed in
the future, when the language dropdown would be more familiar and adopted.


Done for NL page.
Thanks Tal

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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-25 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 06/25/2014 01:19 PM, schrieb Tal Daniel:

Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.


thanks for this nice little feature. Good work!


Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language:

selectedlang: en *
language: Language **

(* change to your language code; ** translate title to your language)


Done for German, works great.

Keep up the good work, what's next? ;-)

Marcus


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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:

Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL sites.
Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language


Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.

Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with non-Latin 
at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there is a sort 
in place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or maybe it's 
sorted by English name, but since we don't show the English name this 
doesn't help the visitor.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Fwd: [www] NEW language Selection Dropdown!

2014-06-25 Thread Aivaras Stepukonis
In indices containing entries of different alphabets, it is a good 
practice to sort them separately, e.g. starting with the Latin entries, 
then moving to the Cyrillic ones, and so on.


Regards,

Aivaras

2014.06.25 23:59, Andrea Pescetti rašė:

On 25/06/2014 Tal Daniel wrote:

Published new language selection dropdown [again]. From now on, visitors
can quickly select their language, if available. This affects all NL 
sites.

Developers  translators are called to add 2 new variables to
{lang}/brand.mdtext, and change according to their language


Done for Italian. Works nicely, thanks for developing it.

Just the sorting is not intuitive... Maybe sort by Name (with 
non-Latin at the end) or by language code? I can't figure out if there 
is a sort in place at the moment, it seems rather random to me. Or 
maybe it's sorted by English name, but since we don't show the English 
name this doesn't help the visitor.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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