[lace] RE: Wedding Cloth-Photos Now Uploaded

2003-10-13 Thread Ian Chelle Long
Gidday all,

Found the webshots password etc. so I have now put two photos on there of my
beautiful lace cloth.

Michelle Long
Richards Bay, South Africa


Ian  Chelle Long
+27 35 788 0777

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[lace] Symbols for elements

2003-10-13 Thread Dina Lecker
My lace class is making a group entry for the Lace Guild's Myth  Mystery
competition and our piece is a freestanding totem pole.

Can any of our Canadian spiders tell me if the First Nations use symbols for
earth, air, fire and water which would be used on totem poles and if so what
they are, as I've looked on the net but can't find anything (maybe I'm
looking in the wrong places) and our local UK library is not into things
Canadian.

If there are such symbols and any of you knowledgeable spiders can send me
drawings of them privately I would be most grateful.

Dina, who thanks you in advance for your help.

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Re: [lace] Symbols for elements

2003-10-13 Thread Esther Perry
 Can any of our Canadian spiders tell me if the First Nations use symbols
for
 earth, air, fire and water which would be used on totem poles and if so
what
 they are, as I've looked on the net but can't find anything (maybe I'm
 looking in the wrong places) and our local UK library is not into things
 Canadian.

A quick reference to the book Looking at Indian Art of the Northwest Coast
by Hilary Stewart shows as design motifs many animals, the sun, the moon and
the human. No mention of the four elements. Nor have I ever heard stories
relating these. Our daughter-in-law is a (adopted) descendent of the famous
Mungo Martin, Charlie Jameson and Ellen Neel - totem carvers.

http://www.ravenpublishing.com/
Some good info here, check out the links at the bottom of the page.
(The Hunt family named on this page are related to the above named carvers).

http://www.davidmorgan.com/nwart.html
Although this is a 'selling' webpage, there are some good descriptions of
the various animals.

There are many more pages - found by typing in Coast Indians art in
google.

Hope this helps you
Greetings from Beautiful British Columbia
Esther Perry

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Re: [lace] Symbols for elements

2003-10-13 Thread Adele Shaak
On Monday, October 13, 2003, at 12:23 PM, Esther Perry wrote:

A quick reference to the book Looking at Indian Art of the Northwest 
Coast
by Hilary Stewart shows as design motifs many animals, the sun, the 
moon and
the human. No mention of the four elements. Nor have I ever heard 
stories
relating these.
Me neither. I've seen a fair number of totem poles and spent some time 
reading about Northwest Coast symbolism and legends, and I've never 
heard of such a thing. I think the First Nations don't see the world 
that way.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)
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Re: [lace] Symbols for elements

2003-10-13 Thread H. Muth
Dina,

Here's another site about Haida art. Although other tribes have started
making totem poles the Haida on the west coast of what is now British
Columbia and Alaska were the first to do so.   This site actually tells
about design principles found in their art.  

http://www.mala.bc.ca/www/discover/educate/posters/hend1.htm

This is a very interesting site with lots of information about the poles.

http://users.imag.net/~sry.jkramer/nativetotems/default.html

The poles tell a story about the clan or their mythology.  And while we
think the 'top of the totem pole' is a good place to be, it is actually at
the bottom where the most important character is placed.  

Heather
Abbotsford, BC
No expert on Haida art but I've lived here for a long time.

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[lace] Hamilton Lace

2003-10-13 Thread Adele Shaak
Well, the turkey's ready, the stuffing is made, the pumpkin pie is 
cooling and the kitchen is clean. (for those of you who haven't figured 
it out yet, today is Thanksgiving in Canada)

At last I have some time to ponder a lacemaking mystery. It seems to me 
that a couple of years ago there was some article, somewhere, plus 
reports on Arachne about people taking classes in, a type of Scottish 
bobbin lace that was being resurrected. I have a vague memory that it 
was a kind of point lace.

Lately I have been reading my copy of Mrs. Lowes' Chats on Old Lace 
and Needlework and she has this comment: Scotch lace can hardly be 
said to exist. At one time a coarse kind of network lace called 
Hamilton lace was made, and considerable money was obtained by it, 
but it never had a fashion, and deservedly so.

I'm assuming this 'Hamilton Lace' was the subject of the revival a 
couple of years ago, and despite Mrs. Lowes' strictures I would be 
interested in knowing more about it.

Can someone with a better memory than mine place this lace, and tell me 
where the article on it was? Was it in the Lace Guild magazine, or 
somewhere else?

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)
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Re: [lace] Symbols for elements

2003-10-13 Thread susan
i don't know of any canadian totem poll symbols for earth, air, water,
and fire, but if you want to use the keltic symbols for your totem
poll, it would be:  an eagle or bird for air, a bull for earth, a
dolphin, fish, or water nymph for water, and a dragon for fire. i hope
that helps even though i am sure that is not what you need.   good
luck.


--- Dina Lecker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My lace class is making a group entry for the Lace Guild's Myth 
 Mystery
 competition and our piece is a freestanding totem pole.
 
 Can any of our Canadian spiders tell me if the First Nations use
 symbols for
 earth, air, fire and water which would be used on totem poles and if
 so what
 they are, as I've looked on the net but can't find anything (maybe
 I'm
 looking in the wrong places) and our local UK library is not into
 things
 Canadian.
 
 If there are such symbols and any of you knowledgeable spiders can
 send me
 drawings of them privately I would be most grateful.
 
 Dina, who thanks you in advance for your help.
 
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[lace] Re:It's a small world

2003-10-13 Thread Kenn Van-Dieren
Jean Barrett wrote -
 Someone said  a bit ago that the Americas do not have a lace of their own,
but while I know that most people there have learnt from European teachers
or books, it strikes me that many of the designs I see could only have been
made in America. There is just something about them which has a freedom
perhaps from the strict traditional way of doing things.

Thank you, Jean, for the endorsement.  I agree that all the designs have an
American feel to them.  But as new designs there is also a tendency to
stay away from traditional lace formats (artistic license?) while still
using traditional lace techniques and styles.   And, of course, America
never had a lace industry that could develop a style in the past for new
lacers to emulate.  In a way, we as designers are now building that style
instead of having a two or three hundred year past to fall back on.

Glad that you pointed that out.

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[lace] Re: Ithaca Lace Day

2003-10-13 Thread Kenn Van-Dieren
Just returned from Ithaca this afternoon after attending the 23rd Annual
Lace Day there.  It was an enjoyable event but then I am biased.  As a
vendor and the vendor chairman for the event,  I have a vested interest in
it being well attended and enjoyed by the attendees.  Because I had to stay
in my selling stall on Saturday I missed the lecture and slides by Pat Read
called Milanese Lace and Its Modern Development.  No doubt some of the
other attendees will tell you about it.

Deborah and I did drive down on Friday so that we could attend the reception
in the evening and be ready for Saturday morning.  Vendors start setting up
at 7 am and it is a two hour drive for us from Rochester.  Those who know me
also know I am not a morning person. grin  A lot of people were impressed
with the 5-metre lace attempt that I am making and had on display. Or at
least impressed that someone would be crazy enough to attempt something like
this. I now have 19-1/2 inches of a 6 inch wide design finished.  Still a
bit to go for a 16' 4-3/4 requirement.

While I did not close the stall early for the lecture, I did have to close
early for a class.  We stayed over this year so that Deborah could take a
needlelace class from Gretchen Allgeier and I could take the Deciphering
Leaves and Tallies class from Josee Poupart. My class was really a very
good learning experience but also frustrating for me as well. While I became
quite adapt at breaking threads, (15 threads on a pattern that used 18 pair)
I fell further behind with the learning project. It is a lovely pattern with
six wheat ears resting above a half stitch background. And the leaves were
an entirely different colour from the rest. I am afraid that Josee feels
that I did not learn from it but I disagree. While I could not execute the
pattern then, I did understand the information she was trying to impart.
Certainly anyone having an opportunity to attend the class should do so.
And I did promise to have a finished piece for her to see when I attend the
Ottawa Lace Day on 28 March, 2004.

We stayed over today as well because of a class that Deborah had but I did
not take one today.  So spent the day working on the 5-metre lace until time
to leave.  And the leaves had  changed quite dramatically between the trip
down and the return.  Very lovely now.

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Bobbins by Van-Dieren
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[lace-chat] Speeders revenge

2003-10-13 Thread Laceandbits
This was sent to us by a friend who is very anti-speeding camera, which I 
don't quite understand as he is also paranoid about sticking to speed limits!  I 
don't know it it's true but I thought it was just about believable.

Four youths from Canberra, Australia pulled off a trick of breathtaking 
bravado in order to gain revenge on a mobile speed camera van operating in the 
area. 

Three of the group approached the van and distracted the operator's attention 
by asking a series of questions about how the equipment worked and how many 
cars the operator could catch in a day. 

Meanwhile, the fourth musketeer sneaked to the front of the van and unscrewed 
its numberplate. 

After bidding the van operator goodbye, the friends returned home, fixed the 
number plate to their car and drove through the camera's radar at high speed - 
17 times. As a result, the automated billing system issued 17 speeding 
tickets to itself. 

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[lace-chat] lacers in Tucson, Az

2003-10-13 Thread jstavast
My wife and I are going to Tucson, Arizona to visit our son for a few 
days later this week.  If there are any lacers in that area we would 
love to meet you.

Jim Stavast
See our 2003 Christmas bobbins at:
http://www.beeutahful.com/store/page7.html
Jim
ShopSite, Inc

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