[lace] sewing edging to cloth

2004-02-09 Thread Lorelei Halley
Noelene
I like to use 4 sided stitch to attach lace to a cloth center.  First you
make one row of 4 sided stitch all the way around, catching the lace in the
top row of the stitch.  Then fold the cloth back on the underside and work
another row under the first, catching both layers of cloth.  Then the excess
cloth on the wrong side can be cut off close to the stitching.

I start the whole process by withdrawing  a thread from the cloth to
establish a straight line for stitching.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Twined gimps and fans

2004-02-09 Thread Scotlace
Noelene

I think I missed the original discussion about this pattern.  Please tell the 
list precisely which one has the discrepancy so that I, for one, can make a 
note in my copy of the book.
Thanks, Patricia in Wales
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Re: [lace] Twined gimps and fans

2004-02-09 Thread Ruth Budge
If anyone wants the corrected pattern, just email me privately, giving me your
"snail-mail" address and I will post it to you.

If you'd like it a different size to the book, tell me what size grid you'd
like, and I can print it out at the right size for you.

If you happen to have Lace 2000, let me know and I can email you the file, and
you can play with it yourself!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

 --- W & N Lafferty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 
> Also, the pattern came from Sorenson's "75 Quick and Easy
> Bobbin Lace Patterns"but  beware  - as discussed several
> months ago, the pricking is distorted - one end is wider than
> the other and when you try to leapfrog your pieces of prickings,
> they don't match up in width.   Ruth kindly redrew it for me 
> on her computer.  And of course, I had to enlarge the pattern
> to use the thicker Moravia thread.


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[lace] Twined gimps and fans

2004-02-09 Thread W & N Lafferty
Glad so many had a look at my twined gimps.  I'm feeling quite
smug about the finished product, now if only I dont spoil it by
botching the linen centre.   My arthritic fingers just cannot cope
with the tiny stitches needed for a hand rolled hem, I think I
will fold the raw edges over, pull a thread for a crochet hook
to go through, and crochet around it.  Then clip off the excess
fabric.   Anyone got any other ideas?

Yes Alice, a double twist on change of direction does help tighten up
the corners - I did this in the latter stages of the piece, when I had
slowed down a bit (see my poem on UFO's about my habit of
charging into projects then slowing down!).   But the corner of the
mat where I did this is also where the joins are (and the last corner
fan, which is even untidier) and I automatically did not put *that*
corner in the scanner (the long threads are still not finished off).

And I think Christine is right in saying Fuhrman called them "twined"
as they twine around each other.  Otherwise I suppose it would be
"twin" gimps.

The technique is simple Helen - pass your pair of worker bobbins
between the gimps, then twist the gimps once.   No extra twists in
the worker bobbins in this exercise, and I don't think they are
necessary.

No criticism taken Jean in saying the fans are not perfect!!!
I think the only way to get perfect fans would be to support pin
every single CTCT.   I do put in a few glass headed pins in
support around the corner fans, as the Moravia linen (22 threads
per cm, thanks Brenda) needs a good Torchon Tug (Tamara's
expression) to put the threads in place, but as far as my fans go
these are quite OK for me.  What I can't do is get a good sweep
in cloth stitch fans, and usually avoid them.

Thanks for the email on fans Ruth, I will keep it all in mind
next project!

And Carol (love your address, "NiddyNoddy"!), the discussion 
about twined gimps came up a few days ago, because I didn't 
have the right thread for the gimps for this piece and I figured a
thinner gimp, used as a pair would do, and if I was using a pair,
why not pass the workers through the pair.  And I was so happy
with the result, I just had to share it with everyone!

Also, the pattern came from Sorenson's "75 Quick and Easy
Bobbin Lace Patterns"but  beware  - as discussed several
months ago, the pricking is distorted - one end is wider than
the other and when you try to leapfrog your pieces of prickings,
they don't match up in width.   Ruth kindly redrew it for me 
on her computer.  And of course, I had to enlarge the pattern
to use the thicker Moravia thread.

Diane, I'm going to use the leftover linen (I always wind too much)
in bookmarks with different coloured gimps now.  Good thing
I've just sorted out my pricking box into a lever arch plastic
pocket folder!

This message has ended up sounding like a roll call for Arachne!

Noelene in Cooma
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re: [lace] Guild m'ships/'zine subs

2004-02-09 Thread Bev Walker
Hi everyone and Jane who wrote:

> Maybe there needs to be some distinction between which magazines are
> available as *magazine subscriptions*, and which are the benefit of
> *guild/group membership*?

A useful query, if I understand it correctly. Most of the lace
publications are indeed sponsored by guilds, in England, Denmark, Germany,
The Netherlands, the US, New Zealand and Australia (and other countries,
that I don't know about!). There are several stand-alone publications,
that I know of:
Lace Express, La Encajera, Canadian Lacemaker Gazette, 'La Dentelle'
from Le-Puy-en-Velay.

 --
best wishes
Bev in Sooke, BC (seeing signs of spring on the west coast of Canada)
http://www.lacegazette.com

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RE: [lace] Re: eastern US suppliers and plastic

2004-02-09 Thread Panza, Robin
>>>From: Tamara P. Duvall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
The Lacemakerhttp://www.lacemakerusa.com/

Mmm... Neither Holly nor Susan take "plastic" -- aka credit cards (don't
know about Tracy at the Lacemaker)

Tracy takes plastic in her store, so I assume she takes plastic over the
internet.

Robin P.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
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Re: [lace] arachne heart

2004-02-09 Thread lapalme
Jenny,

No, you're not the last one, mine is still to come.  Before I commit to making a
lot of an edging, I really have to like it, because, you see, I don't like lace
edgings.  So, I keep on looking for a pattern that I like, and, well, how can I
put this:  I'm still looking.  Every few weeks, I pull all the books out and
look again, but:  nothing.  I've left the heart where I can see it, often, and
every time I see it, I feel horrible at not making the edging.  I don't want to
move the heart, but then "no edging moves me".  I'll look again.  Oh, before
anyone suggests it, no I don't want to design one.  I have very little time to
make lace, and no time to design it (lately, I barely have time to breathe).

I will make that edging, one day 

Lise-Aurore
in Ottawa, where we know what snow and cold are and how long they really last
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Barron wrote:

> Am I the last person to finish trimming my spider heart? I've finally
> finished - second attempt as I made the first effort too short - I'm quite
> pleased with the result. Thank you Pauline and the lavender still smells
> lovely
>
> jenny barron
> a sunny spring day in Scotland
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[lace] Noelene's Twined Gimps in Seashore Mat

2004-02-09 Thread Christine Johnson
Thanks for posting the scan - it looks great. Perfect colours. And, yes,
that's a twined gimp, as used in Torchon.
Christine J

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Subject: [lace] Twined Gimp

I've uploaded a scan of a corner of my Seashore mat with the
twined gimp (thanks for posting Christine, good to have a name
for it!)

The link is
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~nlafferty/custom_013.htm

If you click on the tiny picture itself, you get the "big picture"

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace] Guild memberships (long)

2004-02-09 Thread Jane Partridge
Recently we have had the issue of (National) Guild membership raised, in
the inclusion of IOLI's membership fee in the convention costs (if I
remember rightly), and then at the weekend Jenny Barron said, in her
email about magazine subscriptions,

>IMO
>for a lace group it is a good magazine and it fits in well with our other
>group subscription which is to the Lace Guild magazine. 

This rang alarm bells with me, as from my time on The Lace Guild's Exec
I remembered that there is no such thing as a group subscription to The
Lace Guild - so I emailed Maggie at the Hollies to check that the
position hasn't changed, and her reply was:

"You are correct there is NOT a group subscription
Maggie
The Lace Guild: Custodians of the Past and Guardians of the Future"

The confusion arises because a member of The Lace Guild can make use of
the Guild's services to its members in terms of insurance for groups and
classes, and have the group added to the list of groups held by the
Guild in order to advise other lacemakers of its existence. It is *only*
the person who is the individual member (often the group's secretary)
who has the membership rights - voting, a copy of the magazine, member's
rates for courses, use of the library, etc - and this frequently causes
confusion when other members of the group, who are not Guild members in
their own right, try to claim these rights. Where insurance for groups
is concerned, the group must pay an annual premium for each of its
members who are not Lace Guild members. Calculating the number of group
members, and possible prospective members, who need the premium paying
for the coming year, can be quite a headache (I've been a group
secretary in the past) and it is a lot easier if group members are also
Guild members! 

Tamara quoted the Guild's membership figure to be 10,000 - it was, back
in 1993 or thereabouts. These days it has fallen drastically, to just
less than 5,000 last year. Of course, the other 5,000 could be these
(non-existent) group members. It doesn't take an accountant to see how
much is being lost in subscriptions by entire lace groups sharing one
magazine. At the moment, the Guild is desperately in need of relocation
- the large, important, collection of lace, equipment and books,
recognised by the Guild being granted Registered Museum status, needs
better, and far more, storage space than it has now, (I too wondered
where the census labels would be stored!) quite apart from the day to
day running costs of the present building and staff.  

I am sure all of the National groups and guilds have the same problem -
they depend upon the membership for the backbone of their funds, but
subscription is restricted by members sharing their magazines with
others, rather than encouraging them to join, too. Whilst I appreciate
that not everyone can afford (financially) to join a guild, maybe if
those who can afford it, but choose to make use of a friend's (or so-
called group) subscription, did join, then the future of the
guilds/groups would be made more secure for all of the members and there
would likely be benefits for all (especially, in the case of The Lace
Guild, for the *lace*, which has to suffer somewhat cramped storage
conditions). If guild/group memberships continue to fall, then they will
eventually reach a point where they have to fold, and what would become
of the collections, libraries, etc, then?

Maybe there needs to be some distinction between which magazines are
available as *magazine subscriptions*, and which are the benefit of
*guild/group membership*?

OK, I'll step off my perch and go and make some lace now!

-- 
Jane Partridge

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[lace] re burned houses and doubts

2004-02-09 Thread Wotter03
Unfortunately the world is not a nice place anymore and is full of con 
artists who will tug on softies like most of us are, so Hanna must forgive us for 
exercising caution and giving voice to doubts.  

When the whole thing is confirmed then she will be inundated with little 
gifts but until then please be patient and understand the reason for our doubts.


Best wishes

Rikki

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Re: [lace] filet lace/the professor

2004-02-09 Thread Dmt11home
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He took special pains to get all this work done for us despite the fact that 
he is absolutely swamped with piles of other things to attend to. We are so 
lucky to have him and his expertise!
Yes, we are. Three cheers for the professor and three cheers for Tess!

Devon

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[lace] Annual Lace Day Event

2004-02-09 Thread Carolina G. Gallego
Hello spiders,
Just to let you know that the Annual Great Lace Day Event in Cataluña, 
will be held next 16th. May in Sant Adrian del Besos (just 10 Km. from 
Barcelona).
Event with 4.500 lacemakers working open air from 10,00 to 17,00 hours.
It will be located just beside the "Universal Forum of Cultures 2004" 
which takes place this year for its very first time in Barcelona .
(More information at: http://www.bcn.es/english/ihome.htm)

Bye for now.

Carolina. Barcelona. Spain.
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[lace] filet lace and more

2004-02-09 Thread Tess1929
The Professor has just done a marvelous job of getting all ten of the books 
that Vibeke sent me onto his web site.   He suggests that those who want to see 
the whole collection at once go to his Page of the Month at <
http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/this_month.html>  It is really a marvellous 
collection, with several books on filet lace, a history or two, and other nice laces. 
These books are in German, Dutch, and Danish, but I didn't find them 
difficult to figure out.   Lots of pictures and diagrams, and three sets of pattern 
sheets with all sorts of goodies to look at.

He took special pains to get all this work done for us despite the fact that 
he is absolutely swamped with piles of other things to attend to. We are so 
lucky to have him and his expertise!

Tess ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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[lace] Young Lace Makers

2004-02-09 Thread julia wallace
Hi All!

My project so far appears to indicate that the best segment to target lace 
making at is the 8-11 year old age group, as they appear not to have as many 
negative pre-conceptions and have more time than their older counter-parts.

As a result I was thinking that it would be extremely interesting to talk to 
any young lace makers within, or around that age group to find out what it 
is about lace making that they enjoy.  Unfortunately my group are all a 
little old now!  I was therefore wondering if any of you spiders out there 
knew of any such young lace makers/groups that wouldn't mind talking to 
me/emailing me (or probably better if they email you and you then forward it 
to me to avoid spreading their email addresses around) about why they like 
lace making?

I live around the Croydon/Surrey region of the UK so if there are any lace 
groups with young people around this area that might let me visit, that 
would be fantastic!

Thanks for all your help
Julia
P.S.  Did the lady looking for a heart hanky edging a little while back 
manage to locate one in time?

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Re: [lace] Twined gimps (Actually now Nice Fan Shapes)

2004-02-09 Thread Ruth Budge
In my opinion, fan passives are very susceptible to being pulled out of shape
during the making of a fan.  Some lacemakers seem to unwittingly pull the
passives to one side or another - and I find that this pulling can be made
worse by a pillow being tilted one way or another.  If you find that your
passives (particularly in an ordinary fan) pull to one side or the other,
gently pull them back the other way (away from the direction they're curving)
as you work the fan.  It's a bit like training a child - keep gently showing
them the way they should go!


Fish-tail fans, like those in Noelene's pattern, seem to require even more
effort to make sure the passives are curving correctly as you go.  And with
this sort of fan, I actually encourage students to turn their pillow sideways a
little to work the second half of the fan to help the passives lie nicely. 
Again, they need to be pointed in the right direction as you work.

The passives also need to be tensioned firmly, but not too hard, otherwise
you'll lose all the curve!   If passives are loose, they can more easily shift
out of place.

The other thing which can affect the shape of these sorts of fans is the
placement of the pin at the end of the row.I'm sure I'm not the only
lacemaker who's pulled on a worker pair and found the pin at the opposite end
of the row has sighed quietly and started to lean!  If the pin is pulled out of
position, it will affect the curve of the passives.  So, if necessary, correct
the positioning of the pin to retain the shape of a row.

I've never had much success with correcting problems after the fan is complete
- I think its much better to keep an eagle-eye on them as I work and get them
as near to "right" as possible at that time.

I hope this helps a bit!

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)

Jean Nathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Firstly is this 'twined'
gimps (as in twisted round each other) or 'twinned'
(as in double)?

Secondly, thank you Noelene for enabling such a close up of the fans. Even
though the rest of the lace is perfect, and the gimps very effective done
that way, I'm so happy to see I'm not alone in getting imperfect fans. (Not
criticising you in any way.) I agonise for hours, by tensioning or moving
the threads with a pin, trying to get the passives in fans to be evenly
spaced, perfect curves and never succeed. I thought everyone else got them
perfect.

If anyone does get them perfect, how do you do it?

Jean in Poole



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[lace] Twined gimps

2004-02-09 Thread Jean Nathan
Firstly is this 'twined' gimps (as in twisted round each other) or 'twinned'
(as in double)?

Secondly, thank you Noelene for enabling such a close up of the fans. Even
though the rest of the lace is perfect, and the gimps very effective done
that way, I'm so happy to see I'm not alone in getting imperfect fans. (Not
criticising you in any way.) I agonise for hours, by tensioning or moving
the threads with a pin,  trying to get the passives in fans to be evenly
spaced, perfect curves and never succeed. I thought everyone else got them
perfect.

If anyone does get them perfect, how do you do it?

Jean in Poole

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