Re: [lace] Thread choice, again

[Patty Dowden]

At 07:49 PM 2/16/2004, you wrote:
Gentle Spiders,

Remember: I'm looking for *linen* and for a *2-ply* and for *colour*...

I had some Bockens 35/2 on hand (lots of lovely colours available, if not 
in my personal stash ), and tried that.  At a "20 wrap" it's *a 
possible*, but on the outermost end of the spectrum; it's almost too 
thick, which makes the whole difficult to tension (and to get the 
seed-beads sewn on).

So, what I'm asking is this:

Of all the *2-ply* linen threads listed in Brenda's little book, in the 
21-24 "wrap" range of thickness... *Which* are available in colour? And 
*where* can I (or anyone reading the IOLI Bulletin) get them?

Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
==

Hi Tamara,

I think the Moravia 40/2 is just what you're looking for.  47 colors, a tad 
finer than 35/2 and linen.

Patty Dowden 

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Re: [lace] Thread choice, again

[Ruth Budge]

Can't help you with the thread question, Tamara, but be assured, I still
haven't got my copy of Lace either!!   I know they've reached Melbourne and
Adelaideso they're in this country..but where's mine??!!


Tamara wrote: > Gentle Spiders,...
> Yours, somewhat bummed out; we had "Presidents' Day" today which, in 
> "real terms" translates to "no mail, no library, no bank service"... 
> And no newspaper, because we get it at the U, and the students are on 
> vaccation (again!). The "no mail" was the hardest blow, however; I'm 
> still waiting for my copy of Lace... :) .

Try the new improved Yahoo! Australia & NZ Search at http://www.yahoo.com.au

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[lace] Thread choice, again

[Tamara P. Duvall]

Gentle Spiders,

I'm working on getting the first of my "Windrose Variations" (Christmas 
ornaments) into a publish-able format, and have run into a problem... 
In my usual, long-winded way, let me describe it.

There's not much room for enlarging/reducing of the pricking... The 
prerequisites are: a) the ornament, as a whole, can't be but *so* big, 
b) the "base thread" is thicker than the (metallic) worker for the best 
effect, c) 2-ply is better than 3-ply and linen is better than cotton 
for the "base thread", d) the threads ought to be easy to obtain, e) 
we're thinking *colour*.

OK. The metallic is no sweat; several -- easily available, from a 
multitude of suppliers -- brands can be used. It's the "base thread" 
that's giving me fits...

My first two (completed; there are a few which had been "ditched" early 
on ) samples were made in Madeira Tanne/Cotona 20/2 cotton. The 
thread worked very well for size (though the final results are a touch 
"limp"), but I'm not sure it's still available (the thread came from my 
"stash"). OTOH, it gave me a point of reference (Brenda Paternoster's 
"Threads for Lace"); it has a "wrap ratio" of 24, so I thought finding 
a substitute would be relatively easy...

Not so :)
Remember: I'm looking for *linen* and for a *2-ply* and for *colour*...
The same (24) "wrap" in linen (that I happened to have on hand) is 
Bockens 50/2. It works up a *little* finer than Madeira Tanne 20, and 
would, probably, be "the thinnest acceptable". *If* it were available 
in colours.. So far as I'm aware, it's only available in white.

I had some Bockens 35/2 on hand (lots of lovely colours available, if 
not in my personal stash ), and tried that.  At a "20 wrap" it's *a 
possible*, but on the outermost end of the spectrum; it's almost too 
thick, which makes the whole difficult to tension (and to get the 
seed-beads sewn on).

So, what I'm asking is this:

Of all the *2-ply* linen threads listed in Brenda's little book, in the 
21-24 "wrap" range of thickness... *Which* are available in colour? And 
*where* can I (or anyone reading the IOLI Bulletin) get them?

Yours, somewhat bummed out; we had "Presidents' Day" today which, in 
"real terms" translates to "no mail, no library, no bank service"... 
And no newspaper, because we get it at the U, and the students are on 
vaccation (again!). The "no mail" was the hardest blow, however; I'm 
still waiting for my copy of Lace... :) *On top of which*, I doubt all 
of our past and present Presidents are all that happy to be celebrated 
together, like some "Presidential baby mush"... 
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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[lace] Re: Embroidered panel

[Tamara P. Duvall]

On Feb 15, 2004, at 9:21, Carol Adkinson wrote:

Hi Jean et al,

It sounds really interesting - and such a lot of hard work!

I wonder if many of you have seen the wonderful tapestry in Fishguard, 
in
West Wales, depicting the French invasion of two hundred years ago, and
their rout by a lady called Jemima?  That also was sewn by lots of 
different
needlewomen,
Haven't seen that one but, in the autumn of '88, came across another 
"community effort tapestry", in Exeter... For a donation of one GBP, 
one could put in a stitch or two in the "New World" tapestry, and get a 
card (with one's personal "spot" marked) and a snippet of the wool 
thread used -- as a souvenir. My (then) 11yr old son and I spent a very 
exciting afternoon (while my DH spent a very boring one ) stitching, 
and chatting to the ladies who did it on a more regular basis. They all 
thought I was a bad mother (the boy knew the diffrence between a "tent 
stitch" and "basketweave", even though he admitted "his thing" was 
cross-stitch ), but they also thought he was the cutest thing to 
have come out of America (the New World being worked on), so it was 
OK... :)

Shortly afterwards, I came across a BL teaching manual, and my world 
turned upside down :)
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/

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[lace] Re: Prickers

[Tamara P. Duvall]

On Feb 16, 2004, at 16:27, beth wrote:

Does anyone know if any of the UK suppliers currently do a bulbous 
pin-vice
type pricker?
Larkholme  does:
http://www.larkholmelace.co.uk/
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Tamara P Duvall
Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace] Re: Subscribing to IOLI

[Tamara P. Duvall]

On Feb 16, 2004, at 14:03, Jane Bawn wrote (and I don't consider it 
off-topic ):

I know this sounds really dumb but I am trying to email the treasurer 
of the
IOLI as I want to subscribe to it but wanted to know if they accept 
credit
cards as I have never sent money abroad before except by credit card.
You think *you're* dumb I've *yet* to conclude a *single* purchase 
via Internet... :)

I, myself, subscribe to IOLI via a US check (cheque), so never had to 
cope with the Internet version, and don't visit the site much. Nor am I 
certain that it's OK to "give out" the Treasurer's e-adress, if it 
can't be reached from the website. *Nor* am I a "high muckety-muck" in 
the inner circle of the IOLI... :)

But.

I've been in touch with the President (of IOLI; Mr B and I do not have 
anything in common to discuss) recently, on that very subject 
(subscription payment via "plastic").

As things stand now, it is *not* possible to subscribe to IOLI using 
"plastic". But the matter has been discussed, and is scheduled to be 
discussed further in 6-8 weeks, when the vote will be taken. Hopefully, 
it'll come on the side of "yes" :)  S-mail subscriptions are still 
likely to remain on the "check-only" basis, but, with luck, one will be 
able to pay with a credit card if subscribing via the electronic 
miracle...

it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to send to the list (sure
I've done it before?!)
You probably have some form of "addressbook", yes?  Cue in "Arachne 
Lace" in the "name" ("to") segment, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in the "address" 
line, and something easy to remember ("lace-tech"?) in the nick-name 
field... That ought to "do it". I have "Arachne" and "chat" as 
nicknames for the two "spurs" (tech and non-tech), and both work a 
treat...

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Lexington, Virginia,  USA
Formerly of Warsaw, Poland
http://lorien.emufarm.org/~tpd/
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[lace] Honiton lace manufacturers

[apcdlally]

Hi all

I've just resubscribed after a couple of months off the list and it's nice to
be back.

This is one for all you history buffs

I have recently met a lady who is researching and writing a book on her family
history.

She is a direct descendant of one Eliza Darvall, who was granted royal
appointment as lace manufacturer of Honiton lace from Queen Victoria in1842.
Eliza is mentioned briefly in Dr Yallop's book (but he spells her name
Darwall)
My friend has inherited many letters and some original designs and prickings
from Charles Darvall, Eliza's son, who designed lace for his mothers
business.

I was wondering if any of you who have access to museums, old prickings etc.(
prickings may be signed C.G.D. ) have ever come across either of these two
names. Any information could help fill in some of the gaps.

Thanks
Annette in Melbourne Australia
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Re: [lace] Prickers

[Steph Peters]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 21:27:20 +, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if any of the UK suppliers currently do a bulbous pin-vice 
>type pricker? I got my original one from Hornsby's over 20 years ago (one of 
>my classmates reckoned it looked very like Richard Gravestock's ones, but as 
>far as I know he never sold through anyone else), lost it a couple of year's 
>ago and haven't yet found anything as comfortably short and fat. 

I've seen many more of this style of pricker on sale in Germany than in UK,
so you might want to widen your search a little.
--
If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is the man 
that has so much as to be out of danger? T. H. Huxley
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Tatting, lace & stitching page 

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[lace] St. Carolus Borromeuskerk, Antwerp

[Dmt11home]

An old issue of Lace (BLS) says that the Lace Room of the St. Carolus 
Borromesukerk in Antwerp is open only on Wednesdays, and that tours are available by 
advance appointment on Wednesday and Thursday. Does anyone know if this is 
still the case, or how I could confirm that information, or for that matter make 
an appointment.
Devon

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[lace] Help - UK suppliers of thimble its/Tim Parker

[Jean Nathan]

Viv wrote:

http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker is coming up "not found".>

Tim Parker's URL is now:

http://www.timparkerlace.co.uk/

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Prickers

[beth]

Does anyone know if any of the UK suppliers currently do a bulbous pin-vice 
type pricker? I got my original one from Hornsby's over 20 years ago (one of 
my classmates reckoned it looked very like Richard Gravestock's ones, but as 
far as I know he never sold through anyone else), lost it a couple of year's 
ago and haven't yet found anything as comfortably short and fat. 
Beth
busy playing with my new cat in a cold, sunny Cheshire (NW England)
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[lace] Help - UK suppliers of thimble its/Tim Parker

[Viv Dewar]

Hi everyone. I need to buy a new "pricker". I know most of our suppliers
could do the necessary, but, being an accountant, I want to minimise the
cash paid for P&P and make up a list of stuff to buy. As well as the
pricker I also need some "Thimble Its"
I've only ever bought these from Tim Parker & his URL
http://www.cyberlink.co.uk/timparker is coming up "not found".  I've had
a quick look at Biggins & Larkholme Lace & can't see any.
Please can you advise me who in the UK does "Thimble Its" & Does Tim
Parker have a new URL?
Will any suppliers reply to me direct rather than the list in
consideration for those who don't want to read commercial "Bumpf"!
Thanks
Viv

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[lace] Subscribing to IOLI (OT)

[Jane Bawn]

I know this sounds really dumb but I am trying to email the treasurer of the
IOLI as I want to subscribe to it but wanted to know if they accept credit
cards as I have never sent money abroad before except by credit card.  Well
having scoured their website I can't seem to find the Treasurers email
address and yet on the form it says if there are any problems email the
treasurer!  It's probably there somewhere but I'm blowed if I can see it but
then it took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to send to the list (sure
I've done it before?!)  think I must be having a senior moment.  Your help
would be appreciated.

Jane Bawn
Portchester UK

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[lace] Re: Binche

[Ilske und Peter Thomsen]

Hello Devon,
That's exactly what I feel about laces especialy what is called 
Guipure-lace.
When I visited Binche about 5 years ago a fsaw in the museum there (it 
is not a lace museum it is about Carneval but very interesting) an 
article from M. Risselin- Steenebrugen, when  I am not wrong about the 
name, in which she explained why Binche-lace is called so. They found 
on such a binche- Carneval-dress at the bottom of the trousers such a 
piece of lace and so gave the whole group this name. Unfortenatly they 
haven't another sheet  of this and because it was in a box they 
couldn't make a copie for me.
I learn all this Flemish laces (Valenciennes, Flandres, Point de Paris 
and Binche) by Annemarie Verbeke and that means not only the practical 
side, but before the designing of them all. And then you see how they 
have become their special face during the time. And the highest one is 
Binche which has nearly all elements in it but no grid any more. And 
how it come from a lace who look a bit wild till the Point de Fee.
I am sorry but I think my english isn't well enough to explain all the 
details. But as more laces you could examine the more you see how it 
has changed during the time. And on Lorelei's site you find also good 
examples.
Greetings from a still grey but dry Hamburg in Germany
Ilske

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