[lace] pillow stands

2004-02-22 Thread Paul and Dona Bushong
I have some questions regarding pillow stands.  Not the individual kind but
the shelf style ones that will hold multiple pillows so that they are stacked
one above the other but not on top of each other.  Hopefully that's clear.
Does anyone know if there are there pictures of these anywhere on the
internet?  I have the chance to have one of these made for me but along with
my drawings the person would also like to see an example of one already made.
Also if anyone has one of these, can you tell me if there is anything about
yours that you do not like and would change or if there is anything that made
it particularly attractive over another?  I think I have in my mind what I
want but I want to make sure that it's not "tippy" and that I've not missed
something obvious before the cutting begins.
Thanks,
Dona in Asan, Guam where the winter rains have gone away for the day and we
have a nice warm breeze blowing the windchimes.

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[lace] Re: Thread question (YLI Heirloom)

2004-02-22 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Feb 22, 2004, at 22:27, Clay Blackwell wrote:

... YLI Heirloom sewing (rather stiff) 70/2...
And may I add that "rather stiff" is a very polite and understated way 
of putting it!!
 I *did* rewrite that bit several times before I arrived at 
something that wasn't libelous :)

the samples I made with the YLI had wonderful definition and are very 
crisp!
Only until you wash them. Then, they lose shape, size, and everything 
else. But they still don't "blend", so you don't even have the comfort 
of nicely filled "motifs". It's the only thread I've ever encountered 
that behaves like a metallic wgile you're working with it and like a  
6-ply cord after...

in fact, I simply threw away the thread that had been wound on those
bobbins.
I did too, but I kept the spools ( bought one each of the 70 and the 
100 to try, when they first came out). With my memory, I might have 
bought the thread (and wasted my money) *again* at some point :)

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Re: [lace] Re: Thread question

2004-02-22 Thread Clay Blackwell
> On Feb 22, 2004, at 14:44, Judith Bongiovanni wrote:
>
> > What thread is comprable to Copley Marshall No. 80? Is
it cotton or
> > linen?

And Tamara responded with information from Brenda's book...

... YLI Heirloom sewing (rather stiff) 70/2...

Here's my two cents worth...

And may I add that "rather stiff" is a very polite and
understated way of putting it!!  I found some YLI Heirloom
#100 on sale some time back and bought a few spools.  When I
began some samples of Binche grounds a couple of months ago,
I thought this would be a good weight to work with.  The
thread was perfectly awful to work with for lacemaking!!  I
complained bitterly to a friend at guild...  This friend
happens to be a very accomplished heirloom sewing teacher.
She informed me that YLI Heirloom thread is not only tightly
wound, but it is also starched.  If I want to use it for
making lace, she advised, I should soak it first to get the
sizing out!!

In case you're wondering... the samples I made with the YLI
had wonderful definition and are very crisp!  As long as you
don't mind constantly re-hitching your bobbins, and if you
like lace that has so softness about it at all...

I think I'll just save the YLI Heirloom for my hemstitching
and stick to Egyptian cottons for my lace!  (But in fact, I
simply threw away the thread that had been wound on those
bobbins.)

I absolutely love Brenda's book, and any time I start a new
project, I always refer to it.  She has put so much time
into this work, and we are indebted to her way beyond the
little bit she charges for the book.  But remember, when you
use threads from the book, that not all threads are created
equal - even if they share the same relative dimensions.
The tactile qualities of any fiber should be considered when
you're planning to work with it.

My recommendation is to determine what kind of thread the
designer originally used, and then find a close
approximation...  if the thread is a linen, try to find a
linen.  If cotton, use a cotton.  Sometimes we are forced to
use cotton when the linen we need is no longer made.   But
be aware that specialty threads like YLI Heirloom, spun
silks, rayons, and other threads made for other needle arts
may not be suitable for lacemaking.  If in doubt - be sure
to ask Arachnids - someone (like me!) is sure to have
learned the hard way what isn't a good lace thread!!

Clay

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[lace] Re: Thread question

2004-02-22 Thread Tamara P. Duvall
On Feb 22, 2004, at 14:44, Judith Bongiovanni wrote:

What thread is comprable to Copley Marshall No. 80? Is it cotton or 
linen?
It's cotton. In Brenda Paternoster's book, it's "registered" at 48 
wraps per cm, with very few easily available alternatives.

But, in a *slightly* thicker (46 wraps per cm) section there's quite a 
selection of cottons, all of which can be had either from US suppliers, 
or (some of them) from needlework/sewing stores, or directly from the 
manufacturer :
Mimosa 120, Egyptian gassed  70/2, Brok 120/3, Mettler Stickgarn 60, 
and DMC Broder machine 60 (which, incidentally, answers your question 
about Retors d'Alsace 60. Which is no longer produced and has been 
replacecd by Broder Machine)

In a *slightly* thinner (50 wraps per cm) section, there's Madeira 
Cotona/Tanne 80/2, YLI Heirloom sewing (rather stiff) 70/2 and Egyptian 
gassed cotton 80/2

So, decide if you like the looks of the finished product in your 
book/magazine. If so, either enlarge the pricking (to 104% for the 
first group of threads) or reduce it (96% for the second group). But, 
if you think you'd as soon have your lace either less or more dense, 
you might want to leave the pricking as is.

Also Retors d"Alsace No. 30
Again, no longer made, has been replaced with Broder Machine 30. At 32 
wraps per cm, substitutes (in cotton) would be: Brok 36/2, Colcoton 
70/2, DMC Cordonnet 100 (works up differently from 2-ply threads, 
though), and Mettler Stickgarn 30. There are several others as well, 
but, as I'm not at all familiar with them, I'm not sure how easy they'd 
be to get in the US.

I really *highly recommend* Brenda's booklet... Even with the dollar in 
the doldrums, it's still an excellent value for the price, as it covers 
lots and lots and lots of threads, both the traditional ones (linen, 
cotton, silk) and the "novelty" ones (metallics, polyester). You can 
see it described:
http://users.argonet.co.uk/users/paternoster/threads/threads.html

Regarding "slow list"... Whenever you think "something's off" -- your 
postings don't show up, you get very few messages and think that, 
maybe, you've messed up something or have been unsubscribed -- check 
the archives. They're not as immediate as the list -- there's a few 
hours' delay before the postings are "captured" there -- but they are a 
good indicator of whether the problem is Arachne's, or your own.

http://www.mail-archive.com/lace%40arachne.com/

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Re: [lace] Is everyone on holiday?

2004-02-22 Thread dora.northern
Oh Jean, what a revelation !!!

Greetings from the Knotter

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[lace] Thread question

2004-02-22 Thread Judith Bongiovanni
Hello gentle lacemakers,
I know some of you out there can help me. What thread is comprable
toCopley Marshall No. 80? Is it cotton or linen? Also Retors d"Alsace No. 30
and No. 60? Are there any domestic suppliers of these threads? Thanks in
advance for your wisdom and help.
Judy in Sunny if still snowy Niagara Falls

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[lace] Bourette and Pagoda silk

2004-02-22 Thread noekkentved
Hello Everybody,
Both bourette and pagoda silk for the scarf in Kniplebrevet has been
obtained from

Langtved Gaardbutik
Langtvedvej 41
DK-9300 Saeby
Denmark

Phone +45 9846 5344  Fax +45 9846 5181  e-mail
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Best regards from a very satisfied customer
Aage
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:30:36 +0100
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Subject: [lace] silk thread

Hello
I got the danish lace magazine Kniplebrevet today and on the last page
there is a lovely scarf. It is made in 2-ply Bourette silk, 10.000 m/kg
and Pagoda silk. I have looked in Brendas book and can´t find those
threads. Does anyone know what I can compare it too to get to know how
thick (or thin it is) and where to buy it? The scarf uses 140 bobbins!
It sounds a bit much for me but it is so pretty. Yours Ann-Marie, Sweden
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it is from my mailserver that checks all my in- and outcoming mails for
viruses.

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Re: [lace] Is everyone on holiday?

2004-02-22 Thread palmhaven
No, we are not on holiday, we are busy making lace!

Sylvia


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> Good morning All,
> Is it just me or has everyone gone away for the weekend? Only 2 males
> yesterday and 3 this morning. Or have I messed up my mailboxes, Again?
> Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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Re: [lace] Re: eBay sales.

2004-02-22 Thread Clay Blackwell
Hi Carol -

I wouldn't say it's a "common" phenomenon for things to sell
for higher than retail on ebay - but it's not unusual
either.  I think a lot of people who get interested in
bobbin lace are in remote areas and aren't really aware of
the resources on-line for ordering supplies.  It continues
to surprise me how many people know enough about computers
to bid on things on ebay, but not enough to shop for
resources and know the real value of what they're buying.

The bottom line is that if you have a surplus supply of
lacemaking equipment that you don't want, ebay is a good
place to sell it.  If you list your pillows, be sure to be
specific about size, composition (foam? straw? wool?)  and
maker (if you know that info...)  The more information
buyers have, the more enthusiastic they are with their
bidding!  And don't forget that a good clear picture is
essential.  If you're nervous about the chance that a pillow
will sell for far less than it's worth, then by all means
put a "reserve" on it, or at least put your rock-bottom
price as the starting bid.  I've noticed that a low opening
bid with a reserve will sometimes attract more bidders than
a higher opening bid with no reserve.

The very best advice I can give you is to watch similar
items for a while before you post anything, to get an idea
of the prices they are bringing, and to see the best
strategy for posting.

Good luck!!

Clay
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Subject: [lace] Re: eBay sales.


> Hi All,
>
> I have recently put a bid in to eBay, and watched the
outcome with interest,
> as it was the first time I had ever bid in an internet
auction.   I was
> absolutely amazed that the Newnham (Newnham-style?) bobbin
winder went for
> £1.00 more than it would have cost to buy new, and that
was without the
> £2.00 x odd charged for postage and package.   Is this a
common phenomen,
> and does it usually happen that things end up more on eBay
than they would
> be from a supplier - if so, I shall definitely put some of
my too-huge
> collection of domed pillows up for sale!(I used to
teach in schools, as
> well as my on-going adult and children's private classes,
so over the years
> amassed about a dozen mushroom pillows, all with very
little use, as the
> students, be they children or adults, purchased their own
as soon as they
> were hooked on lace.  I don't think, even in my wildest
dreams, I would have
> twelve new students start all at once.)
>
> Carol - in a blustery and unsettled Suffolk UK.
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[lace] Bidding on ebay (2)

2004-02-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Carol, if you're planning to sell your pillows on ebay, have a look to see
what other have gone for to guauge what you're likely to get. Don't put them
up for sale all at once because, if you've got 12 and 12 people want one,
you'll get a low price for each. Put one up each month, and you'll more
likely get several people bidding on each.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Ebay sales

2004-02-22 Thread Jean Nathan
First, I think it's just quiet because it's the weekend - it often is unless
there's a rally strong thread going.

Carol wrote:



This isn't at all unusual. People decide they want the item and don't bother
to check what they can buy it for, and then "auction fever" takes over. I
always check the price before bidding. Secondhand books can be checked
through http://www.abebooks.co.uk or .com to see if the secondhand
booksellers have the book and, is so, what their prices are. Lace equipment
through the lace suppliers web sites.

Item number 2379971290 which finished on the 19th went for eighteen pounds,
which is the same price as SMP sell it for. If you click on the underlined
"27 bids" next to the word "history", you'll see how the bidding went. The
bidder "spinningweaving" was obviously hoping to get it cheaply, but pushed
the price up with 19 bids, when he/she'd have been better off either putting
the maximum he/she was prepared to pay straight away and let others push up
to it or beyond it, or waiting till very close to the end of the auction
(known as sniping, which is how I frequently bid, much to the annoyance of
the person outbid, but it's legal) to do it. Bidding wars are a waste of
time and energy.

There's another Newnham winder Item number 2381593808, and
"spinning/weaving" has put the opening bid on that. I'd guess the same
amount as his/her opening bid on the previous one, which wasn't nearly
enough. What he/she needed to do was to see what the person below the winner
of the other one bid, because he/she'll probably be bidding the same amount
(or higher) on this one as well. It's unlikely that the winner of the
previous one will bid on this one, but not impossible.

There's a group of twelve modern South Bucks bobbins for sale, and there's
no point in bidding more than 12 pounds on those because Winslow bobbins
make them for one pound each. Looking at the bid history for them
"daniellie" is obviously keen on them because he/she put in the opening bid,
was outbid, and has bid again.

Bidding on ebay's fun provided you don't take it too seriously. If you don't
win an item, another will come along some time. If someone's prepared to pay
more than me, well good luck to them.

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Re: eBay sales.

2004-02-22 Thread Carol Adkinson
Hi All,

I have recently put a bid in to eBay, and watched the outcome with interest,
as it was the first time I had ever bid in an internet auction.   I was
absolutely amazed that the Newnham (Newnham-style?) bobbin winder went for
£1.00 more than it would have cost to buy new, and that was without the
£2.00 x odd charged for postage and package.   Is this a common phenomen,
and does it usually happen that things end up more on eBay than they would
be from a supplier - if so, I shall definitely put some of my too-huge
collection of domed pillows up for sale!(I used to teach in schools, as
well as my on-going adult and children's private classes, so over the years
amassed about a dozen mushroom pillows, all with very little use, as the
students, be they children or adults, purchased their own as soon as they
were hooked on lace.  I don't think, even in my wildest dreams, I would have
twelve new students start all at once.)

Carol - in a blustery and unsettled Suffolk UK.

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Re: [lace] Is everyone on holiday?

2004-02-22 Thread Antje González
Hi Jean. I was thinking the same as you. Perhaps the Internet has
problems... I have received the same number of mails as you. So, be patient!
Have a nice weekend
Antje, from Guadalajara, Spain

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Re: [lace] Is everyone on holiday?

2004-02-22 Thread RICHARD TAYLOR
Dear Jean


I haven't gone away for the weekend.  I must admit it does seem very quiet.
Never mind it gives you more time to make lace!!!
Hopefully...



Sue Taylor in sunny Northampton but very cold and windy.
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> Good morning All,
> Is it just me or has everyone gone away for the weekend? Only 2 males
> yesterday and 3 this morning. Or have I messed up my mailboxes, Again?
> Jean in Cleveland U.K.
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[lace] Is everyone on holiday?

2004-02-22 Thread Jean Barrett
Good morning All,
Is it just me or has everyone gone away for the weekend? Only 2 males 
yesterday and 3 this morning. Or have I messed up my mailboxes, Again?
Jean in Cleveland U.K.

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[lace] Bookmark for sale on ebay

2004-02-22 Thread Jean Nathan
It'll be interesting to see how much this torchon bookmark sells for (is it
sells):

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3276095941&category=159

Or search for item number 3276095941

We could flood ebay with these!

Jean in Poole

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[lace] Looking for source of old lace article c1967

2004-02-22 Thread Jean Nathan
Assuming it's the UK edition of the magazine, it's been around as many years
as
I can remember and longer. The content has been revamped over the years to
keep up with
the times, and I doubt that the original editorial team is still working,
although you never know because some things about the countryside never
change. They probably won't have a record of the article as it's way before
computerised records, but you could always try.

They have a web site with a contact link:

http://www.countrylife.co.uk/

Jean in Poole

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