RE: [lace] not a bobbin - but what is it?
Hi all - My email sorts itself according to when the sender sent it out, and for some reason, it marks time according to the sender's current time, not according to a fixed time zone... SO, I often read responses before I see the original question, and sometimes not... but it does make for some confusion!! The point of all of the above babble is that I responded about the item being an awl... AFTER some people I respect had called it a stiletto/awl. Please understand that I was not trying to be heavy-handed in a pronouncement of my preference for the term awl - it's just what popped into my head at the time, and had I seen the other responses before I wrote, I wouldn't have responded at all!! I believe that Gertrude Whiting distinguishes between the stiletto and the awl in the same way that Brian and Brenda do in their postings! So I'll remember that now! Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [Original Message] > From: Clay Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > Date: 6/4/2005 5:09:49 PM > Subject: RE: [lace] not a bobbin - but what is it? > > That is an awl, which was used to make round holes in fabric which were > then embroidered with button-hole stitchs or other fancy stitchs. The > resulting "eyelets" could be either decorative or functional, depending on > where they were and how they were used. > > Clay > > Clay Blackwell > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [Original Message] > > From: Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Date: 6/4/2005 2:44:38 PM > > Subject: [lace] not a bobbin - but what is it? > > > > The seller is actually asking for help in saying what it is! > > > > ebay auction number 8195945449 > > > > > > Jenny Brandis > > Kununurra, Western Australia > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 6/3/2005 > > > > - > > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] not a bobbin - but what is it?
That is an awl, which was used to make round holes in fabric which were then embroidered with button-hole stitchs or other fancy stitchs. The resulting "eyelets" could be either decorative or functional, depending on where they were and how they were used. Clay Clay Blackwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [Original Message] > From: Jenny Brandis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 6/4/2005 2:44:38 PM > Subject: [lace] not a bobbin - but what is it? > > The seller is actually asking for help in saying what it is! > > ebay auction number 8195945449 > > > Jenny Brandis > Kununurra, Western Australia > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.5.2 - Release Date: 6/3/2005 > > - > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] keeping one's place on a pattern
From: "L. E. Weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > when working on Flanders I keep an enlarged copy of the > pattern mounted on a think cork board so that I can use pins to > keep track of where I am in a piece. This is quite useful, since many of us have a cork board for pre- pricking. However, if you don't have a cork board or don't want to use pins, go to the stationery store and buy some Post-it arrows. These are related to the sticky notes, but they're narrow and pointed on the sticky end. You can position the arrow to point at the pin you last completed (or have several arrows pointing to several endpoints in a complicated piece). One advantage of this over pins is that the arrows stay in place when you pack up. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA (formerly Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] 8195945449 Not a bobbin ebay
Like Tamara I don't look at things on Ebay unless the full one-click URL is supplied. Personally I use the name stiletto for the needlework tool (or high heel on shoe - which took the name from the tool anyway) and awl for a woodworking tool which serves a similar purpose but needs to be sturdier as wood is tougher than most fabrics. I have an awl, inherited from my Dad, which has a rounded handle like a screwdriver and a hard metal spike which is used to start a hole for a screw to go in. Brenda On 4 Jun 2005, at 10:02, Brian Lemin wrote: Yes it is a stiletto. Looks a bit like bone but could possibly be poor quality/aged ivory. Some reference books call it an awl. One book seemed to call steel pointed ones stiletto and bone ones awls??? It is possible that they go under both names. I will go for stiletto. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Zig Zag lace pattern
Hello all- Jane Viking Swanson asked about the "zig zag" pattern I was working on at the NELG retreat (how could that have already been 2 weeks ago!?). First of all, I want to comment on her "impromptu" presentation on Battenburg laces. Anyone who has spoken to Jane (or read her messages) knows that her enthusiasm about any subject is certainly infectious. But her pleasure in sharing her knowledge and a part of her collection of Battenburg was particularly wonderful, and she had a most appreciative audience. (And one knows how hard it is to pull a group of lacers away from pillows during a weekend workshop unless for food -- or maybe shopping.) She certainly knows her stuff. I hadn't realized that she'd written about Battenburg lace for _Threads_ and _Piecework_ magazines. I went home to look through my bookshelves and, sure enough, there's a model sporting a blouse with lace insert on the cover of the July, 1995 issue of _Threads_, and a great article inside. Second, the answer to her question is that I was working on a Flanders piece from the Mary Niven book (1998) in the "Double Pointed Corners" chapter. It's a pattern I've had my eye on for a while--a zig zag strip of cloth areas in a parallelogram (rhomboid?) shape - a "tipsy" rectangle, if you will, bordered with a strip of ground. Luckily, I have waited to tackle it until I had worked on other Flanders pieces AND had Jeannet Van Oord RIGHT beside me with the book in hand. Despite the colored diagram, it took both of us to work through the intricate changing of pairs at the corners. As mentioned in recent messages, when working on Flanders I keep an enlarged copy of the pattern mounted on a think cork board so that I can use pins to keep track of where I am in a piece. But it's a nice looking pattern and I think with time I'll begin to speed up the production. As a thin strip it is a nice break from the wider, more complicated Flanders pieces, tricky corners aside. Off to buy and plant tomato plants now. The lace pillow has to wait until I finish getting the yard under control--a worthwhile effort since new things are blooming every few days. regards, Lorraine Albany, NY - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 8195945449 Not a bobbin ebay
Yes it is a stiletto. Looks a bit like bone but could possibly be poor quality/aged ivory. Some reference books call it an awl. One book seemed to call steel pointed ones stiletto and bone ones awls??? It is possible that they go under both names. I will go for stiletto. Jean and Brian from Cooranbong, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Kathy, The method Pat read taught us in class doesn't involve working multiple times to a pivot pin. Once you have worked down the braid as far as the pivot pin, work the pivot pin as a blind stitch (= do NOT work edge stitch, just pin the workers) and the work to the outside edge, work the edge stitch and work back through all of the passives. LEAVE THE WORKER -it's not going to be a worker any more. *With the third passive pair from the outside edge, work to the outside edge and back through 2 pairs of passives. Tie this new "worker" and then work through the rest of the passives (up to but not through the old braid worker pair). Repeat from * - note that after tying the new "worker", the remainder of the passives you are working through doesn't include the original worker pair or any of the pairs that have been through the process just described - ie, there will be one less "passive" pair to be worked through each time. Repeat this until you have worked all of the pinholes around the outside curve (about 180 degrees worth) to a pinhole that is more or less level with pivot pin. (If you run out of passives to use for this, I'm not sure what you do. I know it doesn't matter if you have used all of them and, in fact, ideally at least 2 pairs won't have been needed.) The next passive pair that is worked out to the edge works back through all of the pairs between the outside edge and also works at edge stitch at the pivot pin, which is removed and replaced in the correct positionunder this new stitch. This pair becomes the new worker pair for the next length of braid. To stop the 2 passive pairs on the outside edge from being pulled in (remember, you take the 3rd on each time, so these 2 pairs travel undisturbed around the outside of the cloth stitch), tie the pair you are bringing back in after working these 2 passives before continuing to work through the rest of the passives. (Have just gone back and inserted this bit in sequence). Hope this makes sense. When I first saw it in the book, I didn't like it - preferred the scroll worked by going back to the pivot pin repeatedly, but this method is really cute once you have tried it. Christine J in Sydney, where we've finally had a few cold days Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:36:51 -0700 From: Kathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] Milanese scroll method I am trying to work the beginner's piece of Milanese lace from "Milanese Lace: An Introduction" by Patricia Read and Lucy Kincaid. I have read the directions several times for working the curve in the scroll method and just don't get it. Is there another source that may have that method described differently that may make sense to me? I have been using a pivot pin to get around the curve, so I can continue with the piece, but it is much fuller than the picture, and I would like to understand the method used in the pattern. Thanks for any help. Kathy from Holly MI - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
