[lace] Help please

2006-10-12 Thread ann humphreys
I am working a piece of lace that on a corner needs one of the inner pins to 
be  worked into at least six or seven times. As this is more times than I 
would normally use one pin hole does anyone know of a neat way of doing this 
to avoid bulkiness or holes.


Ann
UK 


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[lace] Re Help please

2006-10-12 Thread ann humphreys
Hi
What lace are you working?
Torchon, Russian braid?
It would be helpful and then perhaps we can all come up with an answer for
you!
Pat

The lace is a wholestitch braid which at the corner turns to halfstitch braid
and reverts back to wholestitch at the next corner.

Ann

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Re: [lace] Help please

2006-10-12 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hello Ann
Yes, use the Bruges pivot pin method.

The first time you work that pinhole in the usual way (by working 
through the last passive in cloth stitch, twist the workers and stick 
the pin).  On the next and subsequent times you come to that pin work 
until the last pair of passives, twist the worker pair and wrap the 
worker pair behind the pin, over and under the passive pair and 
continue.  The wraps of thread from the worker pair will stack up on 
the pin.  As soon as you've finished that pinhole and got one or two 
more pins stuck remove the pivot pin and tension gently.  The stack of 
threads should then all lie down close to each other.


If you work with the footedge on the right, English fashion, you will 
wrap clockwise, if it's on the left, continental fashion, you will wrap 
anti-clockwise.


Brenda

I am working a piece of lace that on a corner needs one of the inner 
pins to be  worked into at least six or seven times. As this is more 
times than I would normally use one pin hole does anyone know of a 
neat way of doing this to avoid bulkiness or holes.



Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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[lace] Gunvor

2006-10-12 Thread ayingling
How sad and sudden.  It was with great sadness, I heard the news of the 
passing of this incredible lady. While a student of hers I decided to 
go to Tonder for their festival and week of instruction in Hoya.  It 
was one of the most delightful experience of my life and I have Gunvor 
to thank for it and for passing her love of Danish lace and culture on 
to so many of us.  I've lost a friend, we have all  lost a treasure.


Audrey Yingling
Los Alamitos Ca.

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[lace] Re Help please

2006-10-12 Thread ann humphreys

Brenda thank you for your detailed explanation.

When I come to work the corner of this piece of lace I will try this method 
and let you know how I get on.


Ann
UK 


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[lace] TONDER LACE PINS

2006-10-12 Thread CANDYLVRDG
I just have a quick question or two.  What  type of bobbin is traditionally 
used for Tonder lace?  Should I avoid  spangled ones?
 
What is the size of pins I should use?I have be trying to look before 
I go to class in case I have what I need.
 
 
Thanks
 
Candy
 
 
PS  I have googled and saw lots of pretty lace,  a few bobbins  and no 
definitions on the size of the pins.

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RE: [lace] TONDER LACE PINS

2006-10-12 Thread Ruth Budge
Presumably the traditional bobbin is one of the continental styles with the
rounded bottomshowever, I've successfully used ordinary spangled
Midlands  bobbins for Tonder for years.   As for the pins, I use the same
pins as I do for everything else - fine lace pins that I use for Bucks.

Tonder doesn't have the sewings found in Honiton, for instance - and is to
avoid catching the spangles on the threads during a sewing that
Honiton-workers use a non-spangled bobbin.

Ruth Budge (Sydney, Australia)


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Subject: [lace] TONDER LACE PINS

I just have a quick question or two.  What  type of bobbin is traditionally 
used for Tonder lace?  Should I avoid  spangled ones?
 
What is the size of pins I should use?I have be trying to look
before 
I go to class in case I have what I need.
 
 
Thanks
 
Candy
 
 
PS  I have googled and saw lots of pretty lace,  a few bobbins  and no 
definitions on the size of the pins.

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Re: [lace] TONDER LACE PINS

2006-10-12 Thread Barbara Joyce
Traditionally, the bobbins used in Denmark are the long ones with spherical
knobs at the ends, usually beaded. However, you can use any continental or
East Midlands bobbin that you like. Since there are virtually no sewings in
Tonder lace, it's perfectly fine to use spangled bobbins, if that's your
preference. If you're going to be doing a wide lace that uses many pairs of
bobbins, you'd be smart to select something narrow, such as a Binche bobbin.

For pins, I like 30 x .50 steel pins.

For some interesting pictures of Tonder bobbins and lace, please take a look
at http://lace.lacefairy.com/International/Denmark.html.

For an interesting discussion about How to Select a Pin, go to
http://www.vansciverbobbinlace.com/Pins.html and scroll down to that
title, below the listing of pins.

Enjoy your class!

Barbara Joyce

Snoqualmie, WA
USA

 I just have a quick question or two.  What  type of bobbin is traditionally
 used for Tonder lace?  Should I avoid  spangled ones?
  
 What is the size of pins I should use?I have be trying to look before
 I go to class in case I have what I need.
  
  
 Thanks
  
 Candy
  
  
 PS  I have googled and saw lots of pretty lace,  a few bobbins  and no
 definitions on the size of the pins.
 
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Re: [lace] TONDER LACE PINS

2006-10-12 Thread Adele Shaak

I have googled and saw lots of pretty lace,  a few bobbins  and no
definitions on the size of the pins.


Generally Tonder uses very fine, long pins. I'm no Tonder expert, but I 
feel the finer pins are better because you use very fine thread and you 
often close your pins (ie, C-T-T, pin, C-T-T). If the pin is wider than 
two twists of the thread, then the thread starts having to go an extra 
distance to get around the pin, and the pin itself is changing the 
shape of your lace. I don't know if I've explained this very well - 
hope you understand what I'm getting at.


But, if you're taking a beginner class, they might use a thicker thread 
(in the class I took at PNWC this June the beginners used size 120 
thread; more advanced students used 160). If you're using the 120 
cotton you might be perfectly happy with the normal fine lace pins of 
.55 mm or so.


I used the 160 cotton at my class and I remember being glad that I had 
brought the very fine Tonder pins, which were already in my stash. 
Unfortunately I bought the pins a while back and I don't recall the 
brand name of the pin or what size they were. But, I just put some side 
by side and measured - 9 pins cover about 3.5 mm, so I guess they're 
about .4 mm each. Lovely pins. Wish I could get more, though I do 
recall they were very expensive!


Hope this helps. And - if anybody recognizes these pins from the 
description I've given, and knows where I can get more, do let me know.


Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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[lace-chat] :) Fwd: The Middle Wife

2006-10-12 Thread Tamara P Duvall
I expect that all the grandmothers and all the teachers (past and 
present) will enjoy this one... :)



From: N.N.


By an Anonymous 2nd grade teacher

I've been teaching now for about fifteen years. I have two kids myself, 
but the best birth story I know is the one I saw in my own second-grade 
classroom a few years back. When I was a kid, I loved show-and-tell.  
So I always have a few sessions with my students. It helps them get 
over shyness and usually, show-and-tell is pretty tame. Kids bring in 
pet turtles, model airplanes, pictures of fish they catch, stuff like 
that. And I never, ever place any boundaries or limitations on them. If 
they want to lug it in to school and talk about it, they're welcome.


Well, one day this little girl, Erica, a very bright, very outgoing 
kid, takes her turn and waddles up to the front of the class with a 
pillow stuffed under her sweater.  She holds up a snapshot of an 
infant. This is Luke, my baby brother, and I'm going to tell you about 
his birthday. First, Mom and Dad made him as a symbol of their love, 
and then Dad put a seed in my Mom's stomach, and Luke grew in there. He 
ate for nine months through an umbrella cord.


She's standing there with her hands on the pillow, and I'm trying not 
to laugh and wishing I had my camcorder with me. The kids are watching 
her in amazement. 


Then, about two Saturdays ago, my Mom starts saying and going, 'Oh, 
oh, oh, oh!'  Erica puts a hand behind her back and groans. She 
walked around the house for, like an hour, 'Oh, oh, oh!' Now this kid 
is doing a hysterical duck walk and groaning.


My Dad called the middle wife. She delivers babies, but she doesn't 
have a sign on the car like the Domino's man. They got my Mom to lie 
down in bed like this. Then Erica lies down with her back against the 
wall.


And then, pop! My Mom had this bag of water she kept in there in case 
he got thirsty, and it just blew up and spilled all over the bed, like 
psshhheew! This kid has her legs spread and with her little hands is 
miming water flowing away. It was too much!


Then the middle wife starts saying 'push, push,' and 'breathe, 
breathe.' They started counting, but never even got past ten. Then, all 
of a sudden, out comes my brother. He was covered in yucky stuff, they 
all said it was from Mom's play-center!, so there must be a lot of 
stuff inside there


Then Erica stood up, took a big theatrical bow and returned to her 
seat. I'm sure I applauded the loudest. Ever since then, if it's 
show-and-tell day, I bring my camcorder, just in case another Erica 
comes along.


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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