Re: [lace] Re: handbag with lace

[Ilske Thomsen]

Hello Steph and Everybody,
first thanks a lot for your nice words about my handbag.
I baught the handbag ready done as you see it on the picture. The lace 
part is on a lightly golden shiny textile part which is put together 
with the leather parts. on the upper side there is a small leather 
braid putting all together on one side and holding the zipper on the 
other. As you do such things. At the both outer sides the part with 
lace runs into a part of leather which become the handle of the bag. 
It's wonderful worked and it was payable and together with my 
lace-skirt I look like a princess :-

Ilske

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Re: [lace] wedding dress

[Ilske Thomsen]

Why do you not make an own design. Everything is possible
Ilske

Am 5. Jul 2007 um 00:23 schrieb Melinda Weasenforth:


Hi all,

I have to make some kind of lace, a triangle piece to fit the back of a
wedding dress, (my way of letting it out to fit so to speak) does any 
one have

any lacey ideas for this.

Thank you  Hugs, Lynn

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Re: [lace] Risch, rich, rich, and lacy too

[Ilske Thomsen]

Thanks Tamara,
it's interesting to see it.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

[sof]

Hello,

Yes, I know exactly what it is but it's difficult for me to explain.
It's an mushroom iron or egg iron.
It use to iron small pieces of women "hat" in 19 century in France.
This one is in smelting (?). It can be electric too

Here:
http://www.dentellieres.com/Reportage/R2003/Tours/tours3.htm

On left picture you can see the iron. On back picture you can see women 
"hat", the women use the "fer à coque" to iron them.


Look :
http://www.mot.be/cgi-bin/ID-DOC.cgi?language=en&mode=I&data=0649%3C-%3Edv1466lw.jpg%3C-%3Edv1466.jpg%3C-%3Epaddestoelstrijkijzer%3C-%3Efer%20%E0%20balloner%3C-%3Emushroom%20iron
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/public/mistral/joconde_fr?ACTION=RETROUVER&FIELD_98=UTIL&VALUE_98=entretien%20du%20linge%20&NUMBER=12&GRP=0&REQ=%28%28entretien%20du%20linge%29%20%3aUTIL%20%29&USRNAME=nobody&USRPWD=4%24%2534P&SPEC=1&SYN=1&IMLY=&MAX1=1&MAX2=250&MAX3=250&DOM=All

Dentellez bien
Sof in France with a automn weather

Laurie Waters a écrit :

Does anyone have an idea what this might be? The listing says "fer a coque de
dentelliere". Thanks,
Laurie

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Re: [lace] Convolvulous/Morning Glory

[Laceandbits]

Jean reminded me that when you squeeze the bottom of a convolvulus/ bindweed, 
the flower pops out.  I was taught about this as a very young child (by Mum? 
Malvary?) and as you do it you say "Granny, Granny, Jump-out-of-bed."  And I 
have a vague feeling that 'Granny jump out of bed' is an old country name for 
it.

I think that the flower is supposed to look like old granny's bed attire, but 
to me as a young child it always conjured up the granny's night cap in
Li
ttle Red Riding Hood, as in the book I had the bonnet frill was deep enough 
to conceal the wolf's face.

The trick is to time it so that the flower pops out exactly as you shout 
"jump-out-of-bed" very fast.  With very young children there is a wonderful 
surprise on their face the first couple of times that this flower does what you 
tell 
it to, but then you have to share the secret :-(

For the lace bit - I agree that there are some wonderful Honiton designs 
using the convolvulus; because of its simple, recognisable shape (both flower 
and 
leaf) and its trailing habit, it lends itself to either a stand-alone design 
or as connecting units with other plants and wildlife.

Finally, did anyone listen to the programme about Donald Swann (of Flanders 
and Swann) on BBC radio 4 last weekend.  I was so glad that they played a bit 
of my childhood favourite of theirs - entitled 'Misalliance' it is the story of 
the clockwise spiralling Honeysuckle and the anti-clockwise Convolvulus who 
fall in love.  Of course their parents object ("We twine to the right and they 
twine to the left), and the bee makes a comment on their potential offspring 
('Poor little sucker, how will it learn, When it is climbing, which way to 
turn?) so at the very sad end 
"Together they found them the very next day.  
They had pulled up their roots and just shrivelled away, 
Deprived of that freedom for which we must fight- 
To veer to the left or to veer to the right!".  

Of course as a child I didn't understand it as an allegory for all prejudice, 
I just enjoyed it as a bit of nonsense and spent ages trying to find a 
honeysucle or a bindweed spiralling "the wrong way round" and popping all the 
grannies as I went.  Simple pleasures with lots of memories.  I wonder what 
sort of 
memories children growing up today will have 50 years on.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire

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Re: [lace] wedding dress

[Laceandbits]

Can you give us a little bit more detail?  Are we talking little triangle to 
let out a bodice or enormous triangle to let out the skirt?  It would also be 
useful to know if the dress is fitted/tailored ie a firm fabric like satin, or 
soft and gauzey and draped so we have an idea of how substantial the lace 
needs to be.

Do you have some matching fabric to put behind the lace, or only a poor match 
that the lace needs to conceal to some extent?  Is there any other lace 
already on the dress that needs to be taken into account when you are 
designing/choosing the lace for the triangle?  

What is your time frame for the project?  Out of curiosity, is this for 
family, friend or a commision!

One thing you might consider is using a bought net fabric as the base and 
then embellishing it.  This could be done in many ways; needle run embroidery 
or 
tambouring, both much quicker than bobbin and needlelace.  Sewn on motifs, 
either made by you, cut and appliqued from machine made yard lace or bought as 
motifs to supplement if time is tight; if you watch e-bay you can get old 
machine and hand made ones cheaper than less attractive modern ones.  
Continuous 
lace insertions and edges sewn onto the net to enhance the shape, the ends 
could 
probably be concealed in the seams at the edges of the triangles.  Again, 
watch out for old lace at thrift shops, flea markets or e-bay as it has a 
different 'feel' to it than all but the most expensive modern bought lace 
yardage, and 
blends in well with your own handmade lace.  Combinations of the above would 
be perfectly accceptable and relieve the tedium of working loads all the same. 
 

By choosing an appropriate size and weight net, thread and additions the 
project could suit either a solid or flimsy garment.

If the dress is made of a reasonably light weight fabric and you have enough 
matching fabric or can get a good complementary one then all or part of the 
triangle could consist of bands of embellished fabric - pin tucks, drawn/pulled 
thread work, embroidered strips, ruched strips (of fabric and net).  Have a 
look at heirloom sewing websites for ideas.  So long as you are competent with 
a 
zigzag sewing machine you should find that heirloom sewing techniques work up 
a lot quicker than making lace, but would allow you to incorporate however 
much lace you have time to work

But what ever you settle on, do a bit of the same for other parts of the 
dress, so the addition looks part of the whole rather than an alteration.

Jacquie in Lincolnshire   

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[lace] fer à coque

[Jean Nathan]

Sof wrote:



Think the words you want are that it is heated in a flame. That's how 
curling tongs were heated before electricity.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Re: [lace] fer à coque

[sof]

Jean Nathan a écrit :

Sof wrote:



Think the words you want are that it is heated in a flame. That's how 
curling tongs were heated before electricity.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK

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Yes, thank you Jean

Sof

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

[sof]

Hi Ilske,
For big collars (fraise in French = strawberry!)the iron you use is like 
scissors or (as ther is on the picture) you use straw (metallic or 
bulrush ?). The egg iron is more near the back of the women "hat" where 
she put her chignon to make round.

Sof


Ilske Thomsen a écrit :

Sof,
It could be that I undestand now. It is to make the small plaits in 
German Plissee into textile. On the pictures into parts of the bonnets. 
this big collars coming from Spain during the time of Philip II were 
made like this too. Is it so?

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

[Ilske Thomsen]

Sof,
It could be that I undestand now. It is to make the small plaits in 
German Plissee into textile. On the pictures into parts of the bonnets. 
this big collars coming from Spain during the time of Philip II were 
made like this too. Is it so?

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Risch, rich, rich, and lacy too

[clayblackwell]

What a treat!  Thanks for sharing.

Clay

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From: Tamara P Duvall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> Have a look at some of the haute couture (spell?) workshops and see 
> what they're getting ready for the autumn/winter '07 
> 
> http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/03/the-best-hands-in-the-world/ 
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> Tamara P Duvall http://t-n-lace.net/ 

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

[Ilske Thomsen]

Thank you Sof,
for the explanation.
Ilske

Am 5. Jul 2007 um 09:51 schrieb sof:


Hi Ilske,
For big collars (fraise in French = strawberry!)the iron you use is 
like scissors or (as ther is on the picture) you use straw (metallic 
or bulrush ?). The egg iron is more near the back of the women "hat" 
where she put her chignon to make round.

Sof


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[lace] summer is here

[Barron]

it might not feel like summer but I just got in my IOLI summer bulletin and 
it's lovely, I especially like the continental bobbins inside the back cover, I 
wonder how easy it is to do that?
jenny barron
not so summery Scotland

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RE: [lace] Risch, rich, rich, and lacy too

[Sue]

Tamara, do you think that it is Chantilly lace in about the 4th slide?

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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Subject: [lace] Risch, rich, rich, and lacy too


Have a look at some of the haute couture (spell?) workshops and see 
what they're getting ready for the autumn/winter '07

http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/03/the-best-hands-in-the-world/
-- 
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)
  
  

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RE: [lace] Language ????? - Convolvulus

[Sue]

David,
We used to do the same thing but we said it was the Olympic torch in the
bottom

Happy lacing
Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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To: Jean Nathan; Lace
Subject: [lace] Language ? - Convolvulus


>Dear Friends,



>The Morning Glory flower is gorgeous shade of blue and is often
>grown as a climbing garden plant here.

Both convolvulus are noxious weeds here. However, did you know that 
if you break open the  flower of the blue one, there is a miniature 
"fairy's ice-cream cone" in the bottom?? We often did that as kids. 
It's about 1cm high. The "ice-cream" is actually the pollen. David in
Ballarat

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Re: [lace] Ebay item 270139922469

[Beth Stoll]

I believe it is an iron for pressing frills.  It looks very much like the
puff iron I used when I was smocking.  See
http://store.marthapullen.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=721&category_id=14for
a contemporary electric version.

Beth Stoll in Albuquerque

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RE: [lace] Language ????? - Convolvulus

[David in Ballarat]

Sue,
We used to do the same thing but we said it was the Olympic torch in the
bottom


Yes it does look like that. But we wove some wonderful stories around 
those little fairy ice-cream cones :)

David


Happy lacing
Sue M Harvey


>Dear Friends,



>The Morning Glory flower is gorgeous shade of blue and is often
>grown as a climbing garden plant here.

Both convolvulus are noxious weeds here. However, did you know that
if you break open the  flower of the blue one, there is a miniature
"fairy's ice-cream cone" in the bottom?? We often did that as kids.
It's about 1cm high. The "ice-cream" is actually the pollen. David in
Ballarat

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[lace] Fw: old tree

[Melinda Weasenforth]

Subject: old tree


Hi,

Somebody sent me the old tree pricking and DH got a different computer and
again all was lost.  If you could kindly send it again, I will print it off
right away so it won't be lost.

Thank you, Lynn

p.s. if I am double posting I am sorry, as my first attempt came back as
unable to send or failure or something like that.

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RE: [lace] Unfinished lace

[Faye Owers]

I would take a photo of the pillows with lace attached, then remove the lace
and buy a frame and use the picture as the background (made half
transparent) and add the  pieces of lace in front with a few of the bobbins
still attached.  The finished picture (collage) could then be given to the
family.  It would be a lovely memory of their Mum's work.

Faye Owers
Tasmania
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:47 AM
To: Arachne
Subject: [lace] Unfinished lace

I have been given four pillows, each with lace still attached.  They 
belonged to a former student who recently died and I'm in a dilemma as 
to what to do with them.

1, A coloured pictorial piece, almost finished.  It's not to my taste, 
but I'll probably finish it and give it back to Margaret's family.

2, Cluny edging, 2.5" wide, pink/blue variagated DMC Special Dentelles.
4" - corner - 6" - corner - 8"

3, 2.5" wide torchon edging, 70/2 Campbell's linen
1" - corner - 52" - corner - 38"

4, 4" wide insertion, 70/2 Campbell's linen with blue gimps
6" - corner - 13" corner - 9"

All the measurements are along the inside, so there's a lot to do to 
finish any of them, especially No3.  The tension is good and I haven't 
spotted any 'deliberate mistakes' but haven't gone over it with a fine 
tooth comb either!

What would any of you do?

Brenda in Allhallows, Kent
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html

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RE: [lace] Unfinished lace

[clayblackwell]

Now, I must say that this is a very creative and thoughtful solution!!  

Clay

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From: "Faye Owers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> I would take a photo of the pillows with lace attached, then remove the lace 
> and buy a frame and use the picture as the background (made half 
> transparent) and add the pieces of lace in front with a few of the bobbins 
> still attached. The finished picture (collage) could then be given to the 
> family. It would be a lovely memory of their Mum's work. 
> 
> Faye Owers 
> Tasmania 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Brenda Paternoster 
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 5:47 AM 
> To: Arachne 
> Subject: [lace] Unfinished lace 
> 
> I have been given four pillows, each with lace still attached. They 
> belonged to a former student who recently died and I'm in a dilemma as 
> to what to do with them. 
> 
> 1, A coloured pictorial piece, almost finished. It's not to my taste, 
> but I'll probably finish it and give it back to Margaret's family. 
> 
> 2, Cluny edging, 2.5" wide, pink/blue variagated DMC Special Dentelles. 
> 4" - corner - 6" - corner - 8" 
> 
> 3, 2.5" wide torchon edging, 70/2 Campbell's linen 
> 1" - corner - 52" - corner - 38" 
> 
> 4, 4" wide insertion, 70/2 Campbell's linen with blue gimps 
> 6" - corner - 13" corner - 9" 
> 
> All the measurements are along the inside, so there's a lot to do to 
> finish any of them, especially No3. The tension is good and I haven't 
> spotted any 'deliberate mistakes' but haven't gone over it with a fine 
> tooth comb either! 
> 
> What would any of you do? 
> 
> Brenda in Allhallows, Kent 
> http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html 
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[lace] David's Web Pages Updated

[Barbara Joyce]

Some of you may recall the saga of the Old Tønder Lace that David in
Ballarat started last January. For those who are new to the discussion,
please take a look at:



I have been posting photos of his progress from time to time. There are two
new photos for you to see, under the dates of June 3, 2007.



And for those who might be interested, some of David's additional photos
that don't relate directly to the Old Tønder Lace project may be seen at:



One fairly significant change (I'm learning as I go!), is that I've started
putting thumbnails on the pages, instead of loading the pages down with huge
images. The first page is still BIG, the second is a mix of thumbnails and
big pictures (in a state of transition), and the third one is just
thumbnails. Click on the small pictures to see BIG full images.

Enjoy!

Barbara

Snoqualmie, WA
USA

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[lace] Re: Convolvulous/Morning Glory

[Tamara P Duvall]

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[lace] Re: summer is here

[Tamara P Duvall]

On Jul 5, 2007, at 8:11, Barron wrote:

it might not feel like summer but I just got in my IOLI summer 
bulletin [...]

jenny barron
not so summery Scotland


It takes less time to get to *Scotland* than to Virginia??? From 
Wisconsin??? The vagaries of the PO are beyond understanding  :) Mine's 
not here yet...

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[lace] Re: Rich, rich, rich, and lacy too

[Tamara P Duvall]

On Jul 5, 2007, at 10:55, Sue (Harvey) wrote:


Tamara, do you think that it is Chantilly lace in about the 4th slide?


5th. Machine-made imitation would be my guess. But I'm ecouraged by the  
general trend towards using lace and other embellishments (embroidery,  
beading) among the fanciest of the fancy designers. Means we could be  
in fashion *and* score a few points for having *original* lace on our  
clothing (and bags )


http://runway.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/03/the-best-hands-in-the- 
world/


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