[lace] looking for lacemakers in Kent
Hi all If anyone out there is from the Kent area of England, do you know if there are any lace groups or classes meeting in the Borough Green / Sevenoaks area? One of the older members of our class up here in Cheshire is moving to Borough Green to be near her daughter in Sevenoaks, and I know she'll want to find other lacemakers to get to know once she settles in. She doesn't have internet access herself, so if anyone can let me have contact details for a group(s) in that area I'd love to be able to pass them on to her. Marion still drives, so can travel a bit to find like-minded souls if there's no-one very close to Borough Green. Regards Beth In a rather damp, rainy Cheshire, NW England (but we had beautiful sunshine all day yesterday). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Thank you so much
It really is a big help to know you are all there for me. I Robin, I appreciate you reminding me of the stitches I need, it's amazing how even the very basics become uncertain after five years. Fortunately I have some basic beginners books and Cooks Practical skills in bobbin lace I originally taught myself from books and still have them. Unfortunately I don't have the Springetts books, I'll look out for them if I can get to a lace fayre anytime soon. Agnes, thank you for the website Url, strangely a few days ago I was looking for pictures of Rosalibre mentioned on the list - (new to me) - got sidetracked as you do and found that very site! Needless to say I bookmarked it straight away :) Carole, I checked in my book, The bobbin lace manual by Stott, and it calls pattern 14 Running river and it is a Beds pattern. Could two patterns have the same name? Has anyone else heard of these patterns? You aren't just saying this to get me trawling through my Bucks pattern books are you? :) That would really get the juices flowing! Everyone else, thank you again for your words of encouragment. Angela Simpson. Newton-Le-Willows, Merseyside, England. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Before bobbin lace
Well - 'before bobbin lace' for me was also 'before arthritis', and I was a glider pilot, being an instructor and doing well in competitions. But I did wear woolies that I'd knitted myself, usually the heavy Icelandic type, with a circular yoke, done on many needles. I'm not supposed to knit at all now, but I sneak in a few stitches every so often, with the sock or jumper carefully supported, and still using lots of needles, or a circular needle. Or I knit little Gunnister purses, using silk yarn, for gifts. The physiotherapists officially approved my bobbin lace - I had to take in a pillow to show how it was done - because it uses the hands more evenly than knitting. Little did they know, I'd have done it anyway, since I was hooked on lacemaking from the moment I saw someone working on a pillow at a Women's Institute meeting. It's been very hard for the last three years to give it up, but I knew I'd never get through my university courses unless I concentrated completely. At least I've been able to indulge in reading the Arachne messages now and again, so that I didn't feel completely cut off. Recently, I 've been doing some research on lace in the eighteenth century: not the making,but the stealing. It seems to have been quite a major activity, from the number of people who came up in court at the Old Bailey in London. Some of what they stole was gold and silver lace, these used quite a lot of real bullion. Some of it was thread lace: stolen ruffles and such, or clothing with lace on it from houses, or shoplifting pieces. Some of it was major thefts, such as all the stock from a shop, or everything a dealer was carrying from here in Buckinghamshire to a dealer in London. Despite the legends, there seems to have been very little lace smuggling, tea and brandy seem to have been more popular. (Maybe you were less likely to be caught?) Later this year I'm looking forward to getting out a pillow again: I'm afraid I will have completely forgotten how to do it. Still, it won't hurt to learn afresh - it's surprising what you notice second-time round that you completely missed the first time. Thank you, everyone, for being there. Linda Walton, in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K. where the Sun has just come out after heavy rain Ah - April! - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Thank you so much
Being too lazy to get up and check - I am pretty sure there is also a Milanese pattern called running river You might find something helpful on this site: http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/lace/index.htm Sue (born the other side of hte Mersey in Wallasye, but now living in Chicago area) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] looking for lacemakers in Kent
Hi Beth I'm reading my home email from work (Gravesend Adult Education Centre) where we have plenty of the current brochures which covers all of Kent, and I can also see on the computer system if there are places available. There is currently nothing offered at Sevenoaks. Currently, in west Kent there are classes at: Swanley - Wed pm full, Wed eve spaces Maidstone Mon am spaces, Wed eve spaces These are both 25 week courses due to finish at Whitsun. There was also a 20 week course at Tonbridge which has just finished but the 6 week follow-on didn't run - low enrolment nuumbers :( AFAIK there is still a class at Rochester (which is not part of Kent) on Thursday mornings. The programme for 2008/09 is being finalised now. When it's ready you will be able to look online at what is being offered - likely to be similar to this year. http://www.kent.gov.uk/education-and-learning/adult-and-community/ If you let me have yours/your friend's postal address I'll add her name to the list for when we send out brochures in a few weeks time. That's the LEA classes covered - The Lace Guild may be able to help you with other groups. Brenda http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html Hi all If anyone out there is from the Kent area of England, do you know if there are any lace groups or classes meeting in the Borough Green / Sevenoaks area? One of the older members of our class up here in Cheshire is moving to Borough Green to be near her daughter in Sevenoaks, and I know she'll want to find other lacemakers to get to know once she settles in. She doesn't have internet access herself, so if anyone can let me have contact details for a group(s) in that area I'd love to be able to pass them on to her. Marion still drives, so can travel a bit to find like-minded souls if there's no-one very close to Borough Green. Regards Beth In a rather damp, rainy Cheshire, NW England (but we had beautiful sunshine all day yesterday). - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemaking vandals!
Dear Spiders This has just came up on a family history discussion group. It's from an article in 'The London Times' of 22nd.May 1830. Just a matter of interest. The article is a review of a book entitled 'The History of Parish Registers' by John Southerden Burn. 'Parish registers commenced in England in consequence of the injunction of Lord Cromwell in 1538 (some think earlier): but few entries are to be found of this date. The destruction of these valuable records took place chiefly in the Puritan times, when they were used in lighting the pipes of the soldiers quartered in the churches. Of those which escaped, Mr.Burn says that some are miserably defective, some having the appearance of being kept regularly from month to month and year to year, yet being deficient of a great many entries: others having a break of several years together; while a third class are written with a carelessness amounting to little better than a total neglect of registry. Dr.Burnaby, inquiring for the register of a certain parish, was told that they had only a modern one; that the other was old, out of date, and of no use, for the people could not read it; so it had been tossed about the church, and at length torn to pieces by the children. In another parish, the register was used (perhaps for the same reason - it's antiquity) by the daughters of the parish clerk, who were lace-makers, and cut it up for the sake of the parchment.' Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Before bobbin Lace....
Hmm... years and years of kids, knitting, (which I learned before I started school) crochet, bead embroidery, catering and..and.. KNOWING there was a lace made on a cushion! Raised in NYC we often visited the art galleries and I had seen pictures...or atleast copies.Had no idea what I sought. Whilst visiting in New Orleans, Louisiana in the early '70's I met the neighbor of a friend. During our visiting the subject came up...she was English and told me BOBBIN LACE. What a joy!! Thus began my search, evetually leading to Osma Tod and Russ at Robin and Russ. Osma had bobbins and Russ had all of 6 books. Off to the gift shop to get some wood wool (elexclior) and a pillow was fashioned. Plus, DH found a magazine with an article by Faith Rogers that was a Godsend. Of course I, like many, lived in an area that had no idea what this lace was..the library became my best friend. Thru sweat, tears and swearing I was not going to do this, I finally learned. Some one asked why I covered my pillows in blue fabric.I answered that they way my language would not show. Think about it! In a couple of years I met Doris Southard and then I really started to grow. Best friend anyone could have, lace or othersise. It has been such fun, I never concentrated on any one lace type, always looking for a new challange, but I have had a blast. As some know, I had an arm/hand accident that kept me bobbin less for a couple of years, but I am teaching again and starting to demo and make lace. No tricky stuff for a while but lacing. ;-D))) During my hiatus, I tatted and learned to bead.really bead! More fun than a barrel of monkeys and will always keep those handy. Of late I used to use Christines snake to teach ...fun...but my book is out on loan and by the time it would get here the need would be over. I cannot believe I do not have a copy of itbut looking this morning has been fun, fruitless but fun. Every box and folder is like Christmas. Time this old lady got back to the task at hand. I can only wish you all the joyous life that I have. Smiles, BarbE Texas USA - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] hint!!
Maybe if I walk past the computer enought time I will remember the
reason.last tiem I go involved in Beflre Lace!
A bit ago, in the discussion of foam lillow filler, someone stated that they
do not like to put too many divider pins into the foam. Nor do I. On one
visit to Doris Southards, she was using a piece of beeswax, that was handy,
to keep bobbin out of the way...and it worked. So I went home and bought some
of the large (maybe 1x2 white {or pink or gray or green erasers}) . They
are great. They do not slide and easy to move around. I have used ever
since.
That's all
Smiles,
BarbE
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Re: [lace] Replica Christening Gown
In a message dated 4/19/2008 7:02:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James wore a replica of the satin and lace royal christening gown, which was made in 1841 and had been used for every royal christening until this one. The new robe was commissioned by the Queen to preserve the original. Does anyone know if the replica has machine or handmade lace on it? Any details? Thanks in advance, Helen (in sunny-for-a-few-minutes-but-chilly Vancouver, BC on the west coast of mainland Canada). - Dear Helen and others interested, It is not possible to tell from the photographs on the various newspaper sites whether the replica has machine or handmade lace on it. It would be nice if they would exhibit both gowns at some time in future at Kensington Palace. For 9 large black and white photos of the lace (7 quite detailed of the lace, the others of Queen Victoria holding Albert Edward - Prince of Wales and of Princess Diana holding Prince William, plus a color photo of the skirt on book jacket cover), there is the following book, which you could borrow from InterLibrary Loan: Royal Honiton Lace By Elsie Luxton and Yusai Fukuyama Batsford ISBN 0-7134-5764-3, 1988 Jeri Ames Lace and Embroidery Resource Center **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Replica Christening Gown
Hi Jeri, Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I always marvel at the talent we have on Arachne. I have the referenced book (Honiton being one of my favourite laces). I think it is a shame that no new lace seems to have been commissioned for the replica gown. I suppose we have to remember that for 99%+ of the public, they wouldn't notice the difference and it would certainly have been expensive and very time consuming to produce these days. From the photos I've seen, there seems to be lace around the top of the replica gown but the overlay for the skirt bit just seems to be net whereas the original had lace on there. Helen. On Wednesday, April 23, 2008, at 05:24PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/19/2008 7:02:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: James wore a replica of the satin and lace royal christening gown, which was made in 1841 and had been used for every royal christening until this one. The new robe was commissioned by the Queen to preserve the original. Does anyone know if the replica has machine or handmade lace on it? Any details? Thanks in advance, Helen (in sunny-for-a-few-minutes-but-chilly Vancouver, BC on the west coast of mainland Canada). - Dear Helen and others interested, It is not possible to tell from the photographs on the various newspaper sites whether the replica has machine or handmade lace on it. It would be nice if they would exhibit both gowns at some time in future at Kensington Palace. For 9 large black and white photos of the lace (7 quite detailed of the lace, the others of Queen Victoria holding Albert Edward - Prince of Wales and of Princess Diana holding Prince William, plus a color photo of the skirt on book jacket cover), there is the following book, which you could borrow from InterLibrary Loan: Royal Honiton Lace By Elsie Luxton and Yusai Fukuyama Batsford ISBN 0-7134-5764-3, 1988 Jeri Ames Lace and Embroidery Resource Center **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Replica Christening Gown
In a message dated 4/23/2008 8:33:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it is a shame that no new lace seems to have been commissioned for the replica gown. I suppose we have to remember that for 99%+ of the public, they wouldn't notice the difference and it would certainly have been expensive and very time consuming to produce these days. Dear Helen and Others Interested, Well, we don't know from information available, yet. We do know from my eye witness report, and the reports of others on Arachne, that in an exhibit of Queen Victoria's most significant gowns, at Kensington Palace, several years ago - the curators displayed the Queen's wedding gown but put plain stiff machine-made tulle on the mannequin's head. Even people who knew nothing about lace who were in the gallery were questioning that she wore something so ordinary. If they did not make an authentic replica veil for exhibition, why would they make an authentic replica christening gown of real Honiton lace? By the way, detailed photos of the wedding laces are in the book I recommended in previous correspondence (for those who are curious). At the time of my visit to Kensington Palace, the Queen Victoria exhibit was in a gallery about double the size of my bedroom. In a huge gallery next door there was an exhibit of Princess Diana's clothing. One was an Empress, one was a Princess. Seemed strange to me. Jeri Ames Lace and Embroidery Resource Center **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Replica Christening gown
Hi Helen As there is no longer a Honiton lace industry these days - only Hobby lacemakers, I suspect that it would be extremely difficult for even the Queen to commission lace to be made. It would certainly have be extremely expensive in order to entice lacemakers to part with their lace and as most people only do a few hours lace at one time, an overshirt with as much lace on it as the original had would probably take years to produce. Pieces that have been made for royalty in recent times have mostly been by way of a gift from the lacemakers of Honiton. Annette in Trentham Vic. Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] :) Fwd: At the High School Reunion
From: M.M. My wife and I were sitting at a table at my high school reunion, and I kept staring at a drunken woman swigging her drink as she sat alone at a nearby table. My wife asks, 'Do you know her?' 'Yeah, she's my old girlfriend. I understand she started drinking right after we split up those many years ago, and I hear she hasn't been sober since.' 'My God!' says my wife, 'who would think a person could go on celebrating that long?' There really ARE two ways to look at everything . . . -- Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/ Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland) To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
