Re: [lace] More lacemaker paintings

2008-11-12 Thread Diana Smith

That is so beautiful and evocative - thank you Noelene.

Diana in Northants

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Subject: RE: [lace] More lacemaker paintings


And another painting (watercolour) at the Australian War Memorial 
collection

in Canberra - Sister Claire, you might be interested in this one.

http://cas.awm.gov.au/art/ART02909

Noelene in Cooma
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[lace] Re: IOLI website

2008-11-12 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
Thank you.  The ES Koon Lace page is one that still needs to be worked on.
I am collecting the necessary files.  So I will announce when it is up.
Thanks for revisiting the IOLI website!

Mark, aka Tatman
IOLI webmaster


On 11/11/08 8:47 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Welcome back!!
  I just went there to see if it has changed, and it looks the same.  Well done
 Webmaster/s  and thank you.
 
 However, I went to the Eunice Sein Koon Lace but only got a mostly blank
 space. there was a tiny box with a red X, but it did not do anything.   Pity,
 I was hoping to see some photos of lace!! :))
 
 Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz
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Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-12 Thread Carol

Hi All,

One of my class had the same difficulty (you don't find diamonds as large as 
coal ...) and I let her borrow my daughter's footrest, that Claire used to 
put her foot on, whilst playing her guitars - it was a folding one, so was 
quite easy to transport, and my student was delighted enough with it to get 
one of her own!   Needless to say, Claire was also quite pleased to have her 
footrest returned to her ...


I wonder if this would help any of the 'diamonds' we have in our midst - I 
don't think it could have been expensive, as both children were at school, I 
didn't work, and both played instruments and sport, so although we weren't 
poverty-struck, we didn't hurl cash around like drunken sailors.


Carol - in Suffolk UK
'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'


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From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nancy Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sister Claire 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


In our Lacemakers of Puget Sound Guild there have been several (over time) 
who
needed a foot stool and one clever husband designed a folding one that 
would
travel well.  We have put the design in the new letter a couple of times 
in

the past. I don't know how many have actually been made by others.
If anyone is interested let me know and I will find the pattern (very easy 
to
follow as I remember) and I can get them a copy.  I have just checked with 
the
widow of the man who drew the 'pattern' from a picture someone else had, 
and

she is very happy to think that others would be able to use the stool.

If you will contact me I will be glad to send an e-copy (I should be able 
to

scan it) or if worse comes to worse I will may a copy.

Lorri
 - Original Message -
 From: Nancy Nicholsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Sister Clairemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lace chat room at arachnemailto:lace@arachne.com
 Sent: 11/11/2008 5:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


 I have the same problem as Sister Claire.  I am only 4ft 10 and a half. 
I
 manage well at home as I have an adjustable stand for my pillow but when 
I

 go to my evening class is another thing altogether.

 It is in a school and we use the desk and chairs.  Even with a table 
stand I
 am having trouble seeing the pattern at the top of the pillow.  I have 
tried
 sitting on two chairs (one on top of the other) but that is no use.  I 
have
 now bought a booster cushion (it is used for the elderly or disabled to 
make
 it easier to stand up I think) I will be using it tonight for the first 
time

 and fingers crossed that this will work (my feet will not touch the floor
 though and I am hoping this will not aggravate my back).  It will be ok 
when

 I get further down the pattern as I will see that.

 Nancy

 --
 From: Sister Claire 
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
 To: Brenda Paternoster
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 Cc: phil powis [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; lace
chat room at arachne
 lace@arachne.commailto:lace@arachne.com
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

  Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.
 
  I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs
  are
  too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are 
low

  and
  fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and 
sit

  in
  those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my 
arms

  and
  have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer 
chair,

I
  have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
  uncomfortable.
 
  When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting) 
I

  place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my
feet
  on the thingies the wheels are attached to.
 
  I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do.
I'm
  saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)
 
  Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things
  that
  were hard on those girls' backs.
 
  Sr. Claire
 
  On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
  sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their
  feet
  on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I 
wonder

  why
  they didn't use a chair that better suited them with a lower pillow
  horse?
   Of course they may have been very petite in relation to other people,
  but
  they were at least early/mid teens as they both have their hair pinned
  up.
 
  The other thing I 

Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

2008-11-12 Thread Sister Claire
What a great idea - I have one of those somewhere. I'll have to dig it up
and give it a try.

Thanks, Carol!
Sr. Claire

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Carol [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi All,

 One of my class had the same difficulty (you don't find diamonds as large
 as coal ...) and I let her borrow my daughter's footrest, that Claire used
 to put her foot on, whilst playing her guitars - it was a folding one, so
 was quite easy to transport, and my student was delighted enough with it to
 get one of her own!   Needless to say, Claire was also quite pleased to have
 her footrest returned to her ...

 I wonder if this would help any of the 'diamonds' we have in our midst - I
 don't think it could have been expensive, as both children were at school, I
 didn't work, and both played instruments and sport, so although we weren't
 poverty-struck, we didn't hurl cash around like drunken sailors.

 Carol - in Suffolk UK
 'Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day.'


 - Original Message - From: Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Nancy Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sister Claire 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: lace chat room at arachne lace@arachne.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 5:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


  In our Lacemakers of Puget Sound Guild there have been several (over time)
 who
 needed a foot stool and one clever husband designed a folding one that
 would
 travel well.  We have put the design in the new letter a couple of times
 in
 the past. I don't know how many have actually been made by others.
 If anyone is interested let me know and I will find the pattern (very easy
 to
 follow as I remember) and I can get them a copy.  I have just checked with
 the
 widow of the man who drew the 'pattern' from a picture someone else had,
 and
 she is very happy to think that others would be able to use the stool.

 If you will contact me I will be glad to send an e-copy (I should be able
 to
 scan it) or if worse comes to worse I will may a copy.

 Lorri
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  From: Nancy Nicholsonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Sister Clairemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: lace chat room at arachnemailto:lace@arachne.com
  Sent: 11/11/2008 5:42 AM
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting


  I have the same problem as Sister Claire.  I am only 4ft 10 and a half. I
  manage well at home as I have an adjustable stand for my pillow but when
 I
  go to my evening class is another thing altogether.

  It is in a school and we use the desk and chairs.  Even with a table
 stand I
  am having trouble seeing the pattern at the top of the pillow.  I have
 tried
  sitting on two chairs (one on top of the other) but that is no use.  I
 have
  now bought a booster cushion (it is used for the elderly or disabled to
 make
  it easier to stand up I think) I will be using it tonight for the first
 time
  and fingers crossed that this will work (my feet will not touch the floor
  though and I am hoping this will not aggravate my back).  It will be ok
 when
  I get further down the pattern as I will see that.

  Nancy

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  From: Sister Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 9:48 AM
  To: Brenda Paternoster
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: phil powis [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];
 lace
 chat room at arachne
  lace@arachne.commailto:lace@arachne.com
  Subject: Re: [lace] Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting

   Well, the chairs could be a function of size and financial situation.
  
   I am in my fifties and I am 1.47 meters tall. (About 4' 9) Most chairs
   are
   too tall for me and tables are too high. I own three chairs. Two are
 low
   and
   fit at the dining table. When I put my cookie pillow on the table and
 sit
   in
   those chairs, the work is raised to a point where I have to lift my
 arms
   and
   have my elbows elevated. Very uncomfortable. If I use my computer
 chair,
 I
   have to bend forward because it won't fit under the table. Also
   uncomfortable.
  
   When I work at my tombolo (the same kind of pillow as in the painting)
 I
   place it in its stand and sit at my computer chair. I have to rest my
 feet
   on the thingies the wheels are attached to.
  
   I cannot afford to buy a dedicated chair for lacemaking, so I make do.
 I'm
   saving up for an adjustable stand for my cookie pillow though. =)
  
   Yes, it's hard on the back. I imagine that was the least of the things
   that
   were hard on those girls' backs.
  
   Sr. Claire
  
   On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Brenda Paternoster 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's a lovely picture, but what struck me most was that both girls are
   sitting on chairs which are too high for them to comfortably put their
   feet
   on the ground.  OK, the pillow heights are right for them  but I
 wonder
   why
   they 

[lace] Re: IOLI web back

2008-11-12 Thread Mark, aka Tatman
On 11/11/08 1:57 PM, Jo Falkink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But www.tat-man.net not yet?

Unfortunately not yet. :(  I still own tat-man.net.  Just need to get a
server to put it on.  Still looking at my options.  I will let the entire
online lace communities know when my website is back up, you can be sure of
that! ;)

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[lace] Technique of Tønder Lace

2008-11-12 Thread Whitham, Irene Steve
I have a spare copy of The Technique of Tønder Lace for sale, if anyone is 
interested please contact me privately for details.


Irene Whitham

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[lace] Re: Russian Lace

2008-11-12 Thread Tamara P Duvall

On Nov 12, 2008, at 19:09, Nova P wrote:

[...] Russian Lace Patterns (Anna Korableva  Bridget M.Cook)  - if 
you wouldn't mind looking at the Vyatskii Doll pattern, in my copy on 
page 24, please?\


The face of the doll has what I think are a square tally, but looking 
closely squinting I cannot identify the style.  They do not look 
like they are 'woven' [...]


They don't, do they? It's hard to tell for sue, but they look more like 
framed spiderwebs (similar to, but smaller than, the ones in the 
shoulders)... Or, like a tally within a frame, travelling diagonally, 
wich actually makes more sense, given that a tally uses two pairs not 
four. Curious...


I haven't made that pattern (or any others in the book); these days, I 
tend to use books as a source of mental stimulation, rather than a 
source of patterns. And, I never took any lessons/workshops in Russian 
Tape Lace. But... At a guess... If I were to tackle it, I think I'd:
1) cloth stitch the inner pair of one plait, trough both pairs of the 
other plait; leave that pair.
2) with the two inner pairs, make a square tally, travelling either to 
the right or to the left.

3) cloth stitch the original outer pair through the two tally pairs.
4) the original plait pairs rejoin to make either more plaits or the 
next framed square tally


I'll be sending you a (hasty and dirty) diagram of my solution, 
privately. Use it or not, as you see fit. But, I'd be grateful if 
someone who actually *knows* how to do these little blobs would post 
the answer to the list; my curiosity bump is itching something 
awful... :)


--
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Re: lacemaker's footstool (was: Ligurian Lacemakers - oil painting)

2008-11-12 Thread robinlace
 Lorri Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
In our Lacemakers of Puget Sound Guild there have been several (over time) who
needed a foot stool and one clever husband designed a folding one that would
travel well.  

For those who aren't handy with wood, a few vendors (in the US) sell 
lacemaker's footstools.  Kenn Van Dieren makes one that comes apart for 
storage, and I think Lacy Susan had a similar one at this year's IOLI 
convention.  I got a footstool years ago, before the break-down versions came 
out, from The Lacemaker.

These are low wood platforms (mine has a sloping top but the collapsible ones 
are flat) to bring your knees up a little.  They're good for people who keep 
their pillow in their lap, but they'd also be good for people who find standard 
chair height too high to put feet on the ground.  Dangling feet is bad for your 
lower leg (not to mention hard on the back) because it pinches the nerves and 
blood vessels at the back of the knee.  This interrupts blood circulation and 
numbs the nerve.

just my two cents,
Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA

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[lace-chat] welcome Paula

2008-11-12 Thread nicky.hoewener-townsend

Hi Paula
Welcome to arachne, and many thanks Sue for the generous recommendation 
about Suffolk Lacemakers, it's really nice to know that folk enjoy the lace 
days and feel welcome, it makes the hard work very worthwhile - still 
recovering from the 5am start on Saturday to get our Polstead Get-Together 
on the road.
Paula, whereabouts in Suffolk are you, it's a big county (by English 
standards anyway!). Feel free to drop me a line direct if you want to know 
anything about lace goings on in Suffolk, you will also find alternative 
contact details for me on Suffolk Info-link through the county library 
system.

regards
Nicky

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[lace-chat] Wassa matta for you?

2008-11-12 Thread Malvary J Cole
Not poking fun at any Italians, but I thought this was funny - it could be 
any nationality.


At Saint Mary's Catholic Church they have a weekly husband's marriage 
seminar.


At the session last week, the Priest asked Luigi, who was approaching his 
50th wedding anniversary to take a few minutes and share some insight into 
how he had managed to stay married to the same woman all these years.


Luigi replied to the assembled husbands, 'Well, I've a tried to treata her 
nice, spenda the money on her, but best is that I tooka her to Italy for our 
20th anniversary!'


The Priest responded, 'Luigi, you are an amazing inspiration to all the 
husbands here!  Please tell us what you are planning for your 50th 
anniversary.'


Luigi proudly replied, 'Ama gonna go and get her.'

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[lace-chat] Re: No Knead Bread Recipe

2008-11-12 Thread Joy Beeson

On 11/10/08 10:12 AM, Janice Blair wrote:


When I tried to get the vitamin C, I found our local
Boots the Chemist sold tablets and powder.  I did not
know how I would measure out the powder in such a small
quantity, so I bought 200mg tablets and a pill
cutter/splitter, and cut each into 8.  They did not 
dissolve as I hoped they would, so I crushed them between

two spoons and although they seemed to stay in bits in
the water, they did the job, anyway.  I would imagine the
powder would be easier if you could find a way to weigh
it out.


According to Encyclopizza, putting ascorbic acid into
your dough is an alternative to using bromated flour,
and bromating flour is an alternative to storing it
for several weeks, shoveling it around so that air gets
to every speck.  This oxidizes the gluten, and makes
the dough tough.

The objection to aging the flour is that it's expensive,
and you might get bugs and dirt in the flour.

Bromating flour sounds rather nasty to me -- my only
personal experience with bromine is being fielded by
a fireman when I was racing headlong to a class I was
almost late for -- somebody was bromiding some goop,
the hose on the bromine tank broke, and instead of
shutting off the valve, he panicked and ran, and there
were no classes being held in that building that day.

Encyclopizza says that the objection to bromating is
that if you overdo it, the flour gets *too* tough.

But if you put in too much ascorbic acid, Encyclopizza
says, nothing at all happens -- though I suppose that
if you put in *enough*, the dough would taste sour.
And ascorbic acid is expensive, so you don't want to
shovel it around *too* freely.

So I just grab a teaspoon and put in as much as the
bottle says to take for a single dose, even though my
flour is probably pretty well aged, since I keep it in
small containers, and seldom get to Bonneyville Mills
more than once in a year.

I mix my ascorbic-acid powder with the flour -- but then
I use granulated yeast, and mix that with the flour too.

Egad.  I forgot to put lecithin in the batch of bread
I'm baking today.  Ah, well, it's destined to be flat,
hard rolls and pizza, so tender crumb doesn't matter.

(The crumb came out all right, and the buns are nice
and crusty, but I think I let it rise too long; it
tastes sour.  Went just fine with potted meat, mayo,
and a dill pickle, though.)  (The dough destined to be
pizza is aging in the fridge.)

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