Re: [lace] Laces named after people
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 09:08 +0100, Nathalie wrote: > Many laces were named after locales but I am wondering about laces > named after (famous) people. I know of Point de Colbert which is a > 19th century needlepoint lace from France. This surely can't be the > only one or is it? > Point de Colbert is embroidery, using partially lace pattern and giving back the aspect of lace, but no cutting out- my book says broderie Colbert is is origin-airy from the XVI and XVII century, imitating the point de Dresde and needle lace known as point de Venise, After 1850 this embroidery is also called point de Venise à la Colbert or point Colbert in memory of Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of king Louis XIV, considered as founder of l the lace-industrie of France. The success of this embroidery lasted until the XIX century. Alix from Luxembourg. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] lace picture of a dragon
Hi - the following are some of the dragon patterns that can be found in bobbin lace. The first set of patterns however may be out of print? http://kloeppelbuch.org/webshop/show_product.php?cPath=75_152&products_id=31 0&SESS=rnubqxolam Lace Express issue 2/99 has a colourful one designed by Michel Jourde - see a sample at http://creatherese.canalblog.com/archives/dentelle_aux_fuseaux/index.html Patterns in filet crochet - http://crochet.about.com/library/bldragon2.htm with sample piece here http://www.string-or-nothing.com/CategoryView,category,Project%2B-%2BCrochet %2BDragon%2BCurtain.aspx http://www.flickr.com/photos/bibliodyssey/2858686541/#/ Knitted dragon shawl http://www.etsy.com/listing/5264274/heere-be-dragone-knitting-pattern Tatted chinese dragon http://nuperelle.net/motiver/KinesiskDrage_eng.pdf Tatted Norwegian dragon http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/08/drager-p-frifot.html Can you tell I too like dragons? Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - Original Message - From: "Celtic Dream Weaver" To: "arachne lacing" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:00 PM Subject: [lace] lace picture of a dragon > . If you know of any dragon bobbin lace > patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you. > Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Weavers knot
-Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Charlotte Moore Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 1:41 PM To: 'arachne lacing' Subject: [lace] Weavers knot Is there some kind of trick for making a weavers knot work? Charlotte - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] lace picture of a dragon
Hi Sherry, Several years ago, when the Lace Guild convention was in Llandudno, the goodie bag was a folder of several dragon prickings, and at least one tatted one. They were all beautiful, but in one of the recent Lace newsletters, was the pricking for Puff, the dragon, as well as a much larger one taking two pages. I hope this helps! Carol - in Sufoflk UK - Original Message - From: "Celtic Dream Weaver" To: "arachne lacing" Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:00 PM Subject: [lace] lace picture of a dragon . If you know of any dragon bobbin lace patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you. Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Weavers knot
Google offers many tutorials for the weavers' knot and variations. Here is my favourite http://www.theropepeople.com/WeaversKnot.html -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] re Laces named after people
Iske Thompson is quite right that the term Regency describes quite different historical times in France and in England 1715-23 and 1811-1820. A hundred years apart ! It is quite possible that both Regency periods had laces named after them. The study of lace can be most confusing. We base our research on what we have found from English sources . Mrs Bury Palliser published her History of Lace in 1865. It is a large and detailed work and must have been several years in preparation and the time of the English Regency would certainly have been within living memory of her readers. She studies lace from across Europe and clearly says in a chapter on Northamptonshire in England that a "point ground lace, with the cloth or toilé on the edge' was named Regency Point in compliment to the Prince Regent ( page 364) In our Regency Collection booklets we have based our work on prickings found in English collections. In our study we noticed that the sprays of tendrils and stems without flowers ( which is most marked in the Margery Carter pricking that Angela Brown has reconstructed) were very similar to English designs of the late Eighteenth and early Nineteenth Century in other textiles , prints and embroideries. Only last weekend I saw a similar design on an embroidered Empire line dress of the period on display at The Royal Pavilion Brighton, the country home of England's Prince Regent. The fascinating thing about studying lace is that it is such a vast and intricate subject in all its aspects. We see it as a source of inspiration to develop new designs for today. Jean www.jeanmaryeke.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Weavers knot
Yes there is a trick and it makes a difference. With one end you make an underhand with a loop. The other end must be placed into the loop in the correct direction. I usually forget and test my knot, if it slips out, I put it into the loop from the other direction. Sometimes, the thread is very slick. If this is the case, I redo the knot, and pull on the ends of one thread, then the ends of the other thread, just adjusting and setting the knot somewhat. Sometimes this sets it in place. Good luck, Diane Z Lubec, Maine - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] picasa link
Hello All! Thank you Lorelei for posting the link to some great stuff. The black parasol #136 is charming, there are some terrific individual motifs that any crazy quilter would die for #29-38, slinky lace dresses--various #s, interesting knits--various #s, but the shoes--OMG--the shoes #260!! Would you believe, there are companies that will make shoes to order? Why yes indeedy & they are as close as your nearest full service needlepoint shop. I stumbled across a supplier when I recently visited shops in North Palm Beach & Jupiter, Florida. The customer stitches the needlepoint canvas of choice & submits their completed work along with a pair of shoes & a template of their feet. From what I could tell, all types of shoes were available: sandals, pumps, wedges, mules & loafers. What a delightful alternative to "designer" shoes! Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida where Christian Louboutin recently made the front page when he autographed the soles of shoes purchased in his boutique--egad - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Lace Dragon
I did save the picture of the dragon...but can't remember where I saw it. It was from a Lace Picture Album. Maybe even one that Laurie shared with us. The dragon was mostly oranges with some yellow and red. The dragon was done in mainly tape lace. It also remined me of Schneeburger Lace. I do have the set of dragon patterns from the Hollies and I did have the box set of dragon patterns that I sold back a couple years ago on ebay when my husband was on strike and we needed the money to stay a float here. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Weavers knot
What is it that you want the knot to do? We use it to tie two threads together, that they don't come apart when tugged. Although, lately I've just done an overhand knot with two threads, and that seems sufficient - the weaver's knot, aka sheet bend, is most useful for tying two threads of differing thickness. On 2/19/11, Charlotte Moore wrote: > Is there some kind of trick for making a weavers knot work? > > Charlotte > -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] thread equivalent
Hi Tess Filato per Tombolo di Cantu 30 measured 3S-21 w/cm, the same as Bockens 50/3 or Pella 70/3. If you want cotton equivalents for Filato per Tombolo di Cantu please have a look at http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/misc/misc.htm and ignore any of the "information" put out by Coats about their so called replacement threads. Brenda On 19 Feb 2011, at 14:16, tess parrish wrote: > Can someone please take a look at the thread equivalent chart and tell me how > I can replace Filata per Tombola du Cantu #30 with a comparable linen size? > I have suddenly acquired three new lacemakers in the area (Maine, USA) and I > think that one of them must have my chart. It is quicker to ask Arachne than > to trace it down, so I hope you don't mind. Thanks so much. Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Weavers knot
Is there some kind of trick for making a weavers knot work? Charlotte - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] lace picture of a dragon
You can but this one (without the flames!) or its pattern at http://www.etsy.com/listing/51346351/dragon-the-protector Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Celtic Dream Weaver Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:00 PM To: arachne lacing Subject: [lace] lace picture of a dragon Not so long ago there was a link to look at lace pictures. One of these pictures was a beautiful lace dragon. I love dragons and was wondering if anybody knew where the dragon pattern was from. If you know of any dragon bobbin lace patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you. Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] webshots
Hello Can anyone tell me how to upload photos of lace to the arachne2003 album on webshots? I had several goes at it the afternoon, and my pictures are probably in several categories now, apart from where I wanted them. Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] lace picture of a dragon
Not so long ago there was a link to look at lace pictures. One of these pictures was a beautiful lace dragon. I love dragons and was wondering if anybody knew where the dragon pattern was from. If you know of any dragon bobbin lace patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you. Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] thread equivalent
Hi Tess (and everyone) Just to be sure you are contacted, I'll answer to the list :) Filato per Tomobolo di Cantu is a 3 ply thread of 21 wraps. The linens listed as 3 ply are Bockens 50/3, Pellava 70/3 The others are Ainsworth's Linen, 2 cord #35 HV Garn Lintrad 40/2 Knippletrad 35/2 Ets Vrau Fil au Chinois Lin Retors Extra 100 Handweavers Studio 16 lea linen Robin & Russ linen 40/2 Finlayson linen crochet 70 Going a wrap finer (22 wraps), Goldschild 66/3, Barbour linen 70/3, Campbell 60/3. A wrap thicker (20 wraps), Barbour 50/3, Bockens 40/3. This is out of T4L edition 3, the nearest to hand at my computer - perhaps someone else can add newer listings :) Bev On 2/19/11, tess parrish wrote: > Can someone please take a look at the thread equivalent chart and tell > me how I can replace Filata per Tombola du Cantu #30 with a comparable > linen size? ... -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Laces named after people
it was the Duchesses de Brabant in English. Later she become queen Marie Henriette de Belge. And the two others were named after cities, Duchesse de Bruges and Duchesse de Buxelles. The Regency lace got its name after the time of regency of Louis Philippe d'Orléans (1715 - 1723). In Europe it is a time between baroque and rokoko. For the lace it was the change from grounds with plaits into net-grounds. Sometimes those laces don't have any of both so the patterns/motives goes one into the other. The patterns are very rich filled with motives. I heard about Regency point, which shall the name after the time from 1800 - 1830 in England. The time of prince and king George IV (1820 - 1830). This shall be a small Bedfordshire lace with gimp and hexagonal mesh-ground. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Laces named after people
There is another lace, not a bobbin lace, the Margaret(h)en-Spitze, named after Margarethe Neumann. She invented in Dresden or Plauen, you could find both in different sources, a lace made with knots with colored cotton-threads. You work on cushion/pillow after a deign only with your hands. The motives are flowers, trees, leaves or animals. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Laces named after people
Nathalie, As far as I know it's more col Colbert, which means a certain sort of men's collar high fashioned during that time. In some books one could find that the very early point de France was named point Colbert. And I knew that during 1850/1855 two sisters with the name Bénard which worked for August Lefébure in Bayeux made a "retro" of those laces. With a flowery pattern, very stiff. It was a success as a decoration on dresses. This lace was worked till the early 20th. century and also imitated from other manufactories. Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] thread equivalent
Can someone please take a look at the thread equivalent chart and tell me how I can replace Filata per Tombola du Cantu #30 with a comparable linen size? I have suddenly acquired three new lacemakers in the area (Maine, USA) and I think that one of them must have my chart. It is quicker to ask Arachne than to trace it down, so I hope you don't mind. Thanks so much. Would it be better to send an answer privately, so that the list won't be overwhelmed with suggestions? Thanks again. Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in Maine, where we have just had the most glorious couple of days of almost 50'F weather, soon to go back to cold and snow, but it was lovely while it lasted. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Laces named after people
How about Regency Lace, named after the Prince Regent? There is also Duchesse which was based on a particular Belgian Duchesse, I believe. Devon In a message dated 2/19/2011 3:09:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, stevieni...@gmail.com writes: Many laces were named after locales but I am wondering about laces named after (famous) people. I know of Point de Colbert which is a 19th century needlepoint lace from France. This surely can't be the only one or is it? Thank you in advance. :-) Nathalie - who is shouting at her knitting machine, never her knitting hands - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Laces named after people
Many laces were named after locales but I am wondering about laces named after (famous) people. I know of Point de Colbert which is a 19th century needlepoint lace from France. This surely can't be the only one or is it? Thank you in advance. :-) Nathalie - who is shouting at her knitting machine, never her knitting hands - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003