Re: [lace] Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Alix & Antoine Hengen
On Sat, 2011-02-19 at 09:08 +0100, Nathalie wrote:
> Many laces were named after locales but I am wondering about laces
> named after (famous) people. I know of Point de Colbert which is a
> 19th century needlepoint lace from France. This surely can't be the
> only one or is it?
> 
Point de Colbert is embroidery, using partially lace pattern and giving
back the aspect of lace, but no cutting out-

my book says broderie Colbert is is origin-airy from the XVI and XVII
century, imitating the point de Dresde and needle lace known as point de
Venise, After 1850 this embroidery is also called point de Venise à la
Colbert or point Colbert in memory of Jean-Baptiste Colbert, minister of
king Louis XIV, considered as founder of l
the lace-industrie of France. The success of this embroidery lasted
until the XIX century.


 Alix

from Luxembourg.

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RE: [lace] lace picture of a dragon

2011-02-19 Thread Jenny Brandis
Hi - the following are some of the dragon patterns that can be found in
bobbin lace. The first set of patterns however may be out of print?

http://kloeppelbuch.org/webshop/show_product.php?cPath=75_152&products_id=31
0&SESS=rnubqxolam

Lace Express issue 2/99 has a colourful one designed by Michel Jourde - see
a sample at
http://creatherese.canalblog.com/archives/dentelle_aux_fuseaux/index.html 

Patterns in filet crochet - http://crochet.about.com/library/bldragon2.htm
with sample piece here
 
http://www.string-or-nothing.com/CategoryView,category,Project%2B-%2BCrochet
%2BDragon%2BCurtain.aspx 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bibliodyssey/2858686541/#/

Knitted dragon shawl
http://www.etsy.com/listing/5264274/heere-be-dragone-knitting-pattern

Tatted chinese dragon http://nuperelle.net/motiver/KinesiskDrage_eng.pdf

Tatted Norwegian dragon
http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/08/drager-p-frifot.html

Can you tell I too like dragons?

Hugs
Jenny Brandis
Kununurra, Western Australia

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Subject: [lace] lace picture of a dragon


> . If you know of any dragon bobbin lace
> patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you.
> Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land.

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RE: [lace] Weavers knot

2011-02-19 Thread Charlotte Moore
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Charlotte Moore
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 1:41 PM
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Subject: [lace] Weavers knot

Is there some kind of trick for making a weavers knot work?

Charlotte

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Re: [lace] lace picture of a dragon

2011-02-19 Thread Carol

Hi Sherry,

Several years ago, when the Lace Guild convention was in Llandudno, the 
goodie bag was a folder of several dragon prickings, and at least one tatted 
one.   They were all beautiful, but in one of the recent Lace newsletters, 
was the pricking for Puff, the dragon, as well as a much larger one taking 
two pages.   I hope this helps!


Carol - in Sufoflk UK

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Subject: [lace] lace picture of a dragon



. If you know of any dragon bobbin lace
patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you.
Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land.


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Re: [lace] Weavers knot

2011-02-19 Thread bev walker
Google offers many tutorials for the weavers' knot and variations.

Here is my favourite

http://www.theropepeople.com/WeaversKnot.html

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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[lace] re Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Jean Eke
Iske Thompson is quite right that the term Regency describes quite different 
historical times in France and in England 1715-23 and 1811-1820. A hundred 
years apart !

It is quite possible that both Regency periods had laces named after them. The 
study of lace can be most confusing.

We base our research on what we have found from English sources . Mrs Bury 
Palliser published her History of Lace  in 1865. It is a large and detailed 
work and must have been several years in preparation and  the time of the 
English Regency  would certainly have been within living memory of her readers. 
She studies lace from across Europe and clearly says in a chapter on 
Northamptonshire in England that a "point ground lace, with the cloth or toilé 
on the edge' was named Regency Point in compliment to the Prince Regent ( page 
364)

In our Regency Collection booklets we have based our work on prickings found in 
English collections. In our study we noticed that the sprays of tendrils and 
stems without flowers ( which is most marked in the Margery Carter pricking  
that  Angela Brown has reconstructed) were very similar to English designs of 
the late Eighteenth and early Nineteenth Century in other textiles , prints and 
embroideries. Only last weekend I saw a similar design on an embroidered Empire 
line dress of the period on display at The Royal Pavilion Brighton, the country 
home of England's Prince Regent. 


The fascinating thing about studying lace is that it is such a vast and 
intricate subject in all its aspects.
We see it as a source of inspiration to develop new designs for today.

Jean
  www.jeanmaryeke.com 

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RE: [lace] Weavers knot

2011-02-19 Thread Diane Z
Yes there is a trick and it makes a difference.  With one end you make an
underhand with a loop. The other end must be placed into the loop in the
correct direction.  I usually forget and test my knot, if it slips out, I
put it into the loop from the other direction.

 

Sometimes, the thread is very slick.  If this is the case, I redo the knot,
and pull on the ends of one thread, then the ends of the other thread, just
adjusting and setting the knot somewhat.  Sometimes this sets it in place.  

 

Good luck,

 

Diane Z

Lubec, Maine

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[lace] picasa link

2011-02-19 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Thank you Lorelei for posting the link to some great stuff.  The 
black parasol #136 is charming, there are some terrific individual motifs that 
any crazy quilter would die for #29-38, slinky lace dresses--various #s, 
interesting knits--various #s, but the shoes--OMG--the shoes #260!!  Would you 
believe, there are companies that will make shoes to order?  Why yes indeedy & 
they are as close as your nearest full service needlepoint shop.  I stumbled 
across a supplier when I recently visited shops in North Palm Beach & Jupiter, 
Florida.  The customer stitches the needlepoint canvas of choice & submits 
their completed work along with a pair of shoes & a template of their feet.  
From what I could tell, all types of shoes were available:  sandals, pumps, 
wedges, mules & loafers.  What a delightful alternative to "designer" shoes!  
Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, Florida where Christian Louboutin 
recently made the front page when he autographed the soles of 
 shoes purchased in his boutique--egad

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[lace] Lace Dragon

2011-02-19 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
  I did save the picture of the dragon...but can't remember where I saw it. 
It was from a Lace Picture Album. Maybe even one that Laurie shared with us. 
The 
dragon was mostly oranges with some yellow and red. The dragon was done in 
mainly tape lace. It also remined me of  Schneeburger Lace. I do have the set 
of 
dragon patterns from the Hollies and I did have the box set of dragon patterns 
that I sold back a couple years ago on ebay when my husband was on strike and 
we 
needed the money to stay a float here. 

 

Wind To Thy Wings,

Sherry

celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

http://celticdreamweaver.com/

http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/

Nata 616



  

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Re: [lace] Weavers knot

2011-02-19 Thread bev walker
What is it that you want the knot to do?
We use it to tie two threads together, that they don't come apart when
tugged. Although, lately I've just done an overhand knot with two
threads, and that seems sufficient - the weaver's knot, aka sheet
bend, is most useful for tying two threads of differing thickness.

On 2/19/11, Charlotte Moore  wrote:
> Is there some kind of trick for making a weavers knot work?
>
> Charlotte
>

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] thread equivalent

2011-02-19 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Tess

Filato per Tombolo di Cantu 30 measured 3S-21 w/cm, the same as Bockens 50/3 or 
Pella 70/3.

If you want cotton equivalents for Filato per Tombolo di Cantu please have a 
look at
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/lace/misc/misc.htm
and ignore any of the "information" put out by Coats about their so called 
replacement threads.

Brenda

On 19 Feb 2011, at 14:16, tess parrish wrote:

> Can someone please take a look at the thread equivalent chart and tell me how 
> I can replace Filata per Tombola du Cantu #30 with a comparable linen size?  
> I have suddenly acquired three new lacemakers in the area (Maine, USA) and I 
> think that one of them must have my chart. It is quicker to ask Arachne than 
> to trace it down, so I hope you don't mind. Thanks so much.

Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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[lace] Weavers knot

2011-02-19 Thread Charlotte Moore
Is there some kind of trick for making a weavers knot work?

Charlotte

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Re: [lace] lace picture of a dragon

2011-02-19 Thread Sue Babbs

You can but this one (without the flames!) or its pattern at

http://www.etsy.com/listing/51346351/dragon-the-protector

Sue

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From: Celtic Dream Weaver

Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:00 PM
To: arachne lacing
Subject: [lace] lace picture of a dragon

Not so long ago there was a link to look at lace pictures. One of these 
pictures
was a beautiful lace dragon. I love dragons and was wondering if anybody 
knew

where the dragon pattern was from. If you know of any dragon bobbin lace
patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you.
Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land.


Wind To Thy Wings,

Sherry

celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

http://celticdreamweaver.com/

http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/

Nata 616





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[lace] webshots

2011-02-19 Thread Agnes Boddington

Hello
Can anyone tell me how to upload photos of lace to the arachne2003 album on 
webshots?
I had several goes at it the afternoon, and my pictures are probably in 
several categories now, apart from where I wanted them.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK 


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[lace] lace picture of a dragon

2011-02-19 Thread Celtic Dream Weaver
Not so long ago there was a link to look at lace pictures. One of these 
pictures 
was a beautiful lace dragon. I love dragons and was wondering if anybody knew 
where the dragon pattern was from. If you know of any dragon bobbin lace 
patterns can you tell me where you saw the pattern. Thank you.
Happy Lacing to all in Lacing Land.
 

Wind To Thy Wings,

Sherry

celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com

http://celticdreamweaver.com/

http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/

Nata 616



  

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Re: [lace] thread equivalent

2011-02-19 Thread bev walker
Hi Tess (and everyone)
Just to be sure you are contacted, I'll answer to the list :)

Filato  per Tomobolo di Cantu is a 3 ply thread of 21 wraps.
The linens listed as 3 ply are Bockens 50/3, Pellava 70/3
The others are Ainsworth's Linen, 2 cord #35
HV Garn Lintrad 40/2
Knippletrad 35/2
Ets Vrau Fil au Chinois Lin Retors Extra 100
Handweavers Studio 16 lea linen
Robin & Russ linen 40/2
Finlayson linen crochet 70

Going a wrap finer (22 wraps), Goldschild 66/3, Barbour linen 70/3,
Campbell 60/3.
A wrap thicker (20 wraps), Barbour 50/3, Bockens 40/3.

This is out of T4L edition 3, the nearest to hand at my computer -
perhaps someone else can add newer listings :)

Bev


On 2/19/11, tess parrish  wrote:
> Can someone please take a look at the thread equivalent chart and tell
> me how I can replace Filata per Tombola du Cantu #30 with a comparable
> linen size?  ...

-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada

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Re: [lace] Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Ilske Thomsen
it was the Duchesses de Brabant in English. Later she become queen Marie 
Henriette de Belge.
And the two others were named after cities, Duchesse de Bruges and Duchesse de 
Buxelles.

The Regency lace got its name after the time of regency of Louis Philippe 
d'Orléans (1715 - 1723). In Europe it is a time between baroque and rokoko. For 
the lace it was the change from grounds with plaits into net-grounds. Sometimes 
those laces don't have any of both so the patterns/motives goes one into the 
other. The patterns are very rich filled with motives.

I heard about Regency point, which shall the name after the time from 1800 - 
1830 in England. The time of prince and king George IV (1820 - 1830). This 
shall be a small Bedfordshire lace with gimp and hexagonal mesh-ground.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Ilske Thomsen
There is another lace, not a bobbin lace, the Margaret(h)en-Spitze,
named after Margarethe Neumann. She invented in Dresden or Plauen, you could 
find both in different sources, a lace made with knots with colored 
cotton-threads. You work on cushion/pillow after a deign only with your hands.
The motives are flowers, trees, leaves or animals.

Ilske

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Re: [lace] Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Nathalie,
As far as I know it's more col Colbert, which means a certain sort of men's 
collar high fashioned during that time.
In some books one could find that the very early point de France was named 
point Colbert.
And I knew that during 1850/1855 two sisters with the name Bénard which worked 
for August Lefébure in Bayeux made a "retro" of those laces. With a flowery 
pattern, very stiff. It was a success as a decoration on dresses. This lace was 
worked till the early 20th. century and also imitated from other manufactories.

Ilske

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[lace] thread equivalent

2011-02-19 Thread tess parrish
Can someone please take a look at the thread equivalent chart and tell  
me how I can replace Filata per Tombola du Cantu #30 with a comparable  
linen size?  I have suddenly acquired three new lacemakers in the area  
(Maine, USA) and I think that one of them must have my chart. It is  
quicker to ask Arachne than to trace it down, so I hope you don't  
mind. Thanks so much.


Would it be better to send an answer privately, so that the list won't  
be overwhelmed with suggestions?  Thanks again.


Tess (tess1...@aol.com) in Maine, where we have just had the most  
glorious couple of days of almost 50'F weather, soon to go back to  
cold and snow, but it was lovely while it lasted.


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Re: [lace] Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Dmt11home
How about Regency Lace, named after the Prince Regent?
There is also Duchesse which was based on a particular Belgian Duchesse, I  
believe. 
Devon
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/19/2011 3:09:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
stevieni...@gmail.com writes:

Many  laces were named after locales but I am wondering about laces
named after  (famous) people. I know of Point de Colbert which is a
19th century  needlepoint lace from France. This surely can't be the
only one or is  it?

Thank you in advance. :-)
Nathalie - who is shouting at her  knitting machine, never her knitting 
hands

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[lace] Laces named after people

2011-02-19 Thread Nathalie
Many laces were named after locales but I am wondering about laces
named after (famous) people. I know of Point de Colbert which is a
19th century needlepoint lace from France. This surely can't be the
only one or is it?

Thank you in advance. :-)
Nathalie - who is shouting at her knitting machine, never her knitting hands

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