Re: [lace] Thread raps

2011-04-11 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Donna

If you mean Handy Hands Lizbeth size 20 it's in Edition 5 and also in Addendum 
4.  2S/3Z 17 wraps/cm.
The manufacturer is Handy Hands and the product is Lizbeth.

This and other 2S/3Z threads are frequently, but informally, called tatting 
thread in USA or crochet cotton in UK, but if the word 'tatting' or 'crochet' 
does not appear on the label I don't record it as such.  

This may be an opportunity to remind everyone of the way the Addendum lists 
work.
After each edition was published I started an Addendum list, with the same 
number as the book edition.
When the next edition was published it included everything from the previous 
edition and the corresponding Addendum list.

So, to have a complete list of everything that I have seen and measured you 
need to consult both the book edition which you have and any Addendum lists for 
that number or higher.  
So if you have Edition 5 you only need Addendum 5.  
If you have Edition 4 you need Addendum 4 and Addendum 5.
If you have Edition 3 you need Addendum lists 3, 4 & 5.
If you have Edition 2 you need Addendum lists 2, 3, 4 &5.
If you if you have the original Edition 1 (which doesn't have an Edition 
number) you need all five Addendum lists.

Brenda


On 11 Apr 2011, at 13:44, Donna wrote:

> Hi, 
> 
> Does any know who may raps per cm lizabeth tatting thread 20 have? I have 
> checked the thread book and checked the up dated for to it.
> 
> Donna in Chi town
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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Brenda in Allhallows
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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[lace] Re: Fiberglass Safety Warning

2011-04-11 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On Apr 8, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:

> I was told that Mr. Campbell used wool military blankets that he bought from 
> the military surplus stores, and that the blankets were 100% wool.

I also have a Campbell pillow and, at the time I bought it, I asked what the 
filling was and was told it was wool. And it does handle like wool; I also have 
a wool-fillig block pillow from Germany and a wool-covered roller that I made 
myself, so I know how pins feel going into wool. 

I also know what fiberglass handles like :)  When I was a child, a builder left 
a pile of leftover scraps for a couple of days, in the courtyard of our 
tenement. A whole lot of us kids got to play with the pretty, shiny, "cotton 
wool". We all itched and scratched for days, not to mention that all the myriad 
cuts we had took forever to heal.

-- 
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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Re: [lace] yardage competition

2011-04-11 Thread finn
Dear Liz,

> Yardage, to me means lengths of lace - various lengths, any length, -
but being a continuous repeat of a pattern until you get as much as you need.

And that is what they are looking for. When they say "There are no
limitations", that is precisely what they mean.  The style, length, width,
etc are entirely up to you.  They will only judge one repeat.  If you do
more than one repeat, you can designate the repeat to be judged or you can
leave it up to them to choose the repeat to be judged.

The competition is tied in with the big lace exhibit which is held in
Bochum, Germany, every other November.  The last one featured the
butterfly contest, the winners of which were in the last IOL bulletin.

Susie Johnson, Pennsylvania, USA

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[lace] Spangles on Old bobbins.

2011-04-11 Thread Brian Lemin
Sorry that I have been "missing in action" of late, as like so many of
you,issues of life begin to interfere with important hobbies!  I suppose
"busy, busy" describes it!

I cant add much to Diana Smiths letter.  While ago she and I had a series of
correspondence as whether bobbin makers' "lodgers", "Neighbors" and "family
members" engaged in the work of the bobbin maker.  this came about as Diana
had discovered some interesting "coincidences" regarding the occupations and
dwellings of a group of "bobbin artisans".

I remembered in some of my investigations into beads and bead making reading
about small groups of bead makers sitting around a table making beads.  The
picture if I remember it, was quite domestic.  I began to form and
unsubstantiated opinion that the making of the beads (Particularly the square
cuts) could well have been a family  contribution to the income of the family,
especially where the bobbin maker was also a lapidary.

I would quickly add that beads were very common at that time; of course they
were used for trade earlier days and money still in some of the African
countries.

I find that when I come across a collection of bobbins from a single
"historical" source that the spangling , and to some extent the beads are
remarkably similar.  For example I have been looking at the Met MA collection
of their web page and the percentage of "more than nine" beads on the spangles
is greater than I would have thought would have occurred by chance

So I suggest that the answer to your question is yes, the maker could well
have sold some bobbins spangled but certainly a lace maker would have had her
favourite beads and spangle design. Yes, I suspect that families would have
been involved.

Thank you for an interesting observation.  I am great believer in an area
about which we have very little information ((?social aspects of bobbins) each
little observation adds towards gradual building of more understanding of the
topic.

A bit like the police say "every little piece of information is valuable".  In
fact most of my writing is done in the hope that someone, somewhere, sometime
will be able to build on what I have discovered.

Brian and Jean
>From Cooranbong. Australia
You can read my bobbin stuff on:
http://tiny.cc/egb85

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[lace] Thread raps

2011-04-11 Thread Donna
Hi, 

Does any know who may raps per cm lizabeth tatting thread 20 have? I have 
checked the thread book and checked the up dated for to it.

Donna in Chi town

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[lace] cleaning lace.

2011-04-11 Thread Alan & Sheila Brown
I recently had to clean a long runner which I have on my chest of 
drawers/dressing table.  Many years ago someone said put the lace into a 
bag with unperfumed talc and give it a good shake.  Then shake all the 
talc out.  It worked and the runner is like new.


Otherwise I have pinned out the lace onto a  thin sheet of polystyrene, 
gently  made it wet with a  shower,then  used baby liquid soap  solution 
on the lace, showered it very well- always  with tepid water- and left 
it to dry.  The polystyrene sheet was ¼ -½" thick and I used milanese 
pins.   The lace would dry as if it had been starched and never in 
strong sunlight.


Sheila in Sawbo' where it is another lovely day.

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Re: [lace] Spangles on Old bobbins

2011-04-11 Thread Diana Smith

Hello Liz

This is Diana, Brian's partner in crime! I haven't heard from Brian for a 
few days but he could well pick up your request.


I personally think that like today some of the makers of yesteryear did 
spangled their work. I have hundreds of bobbins made by the Compton's and a 
lot of them have spangles of a similar 'style' - number and arrangement of 
beads.
The Haskins family - Joseph was a bobbinmaker and lapidary, beadmaker, so 
surely he used some of his own work to spangle his beautifully ornate 
bobbins, I have a mother and babe with a beautiful birdcage spangle 
attached - made by him - who knows! Robert Haskins was a jeweller so could 
also have spangled.


Though having said that I'm sure there were beads readily available to the 
lacemakers, if not at the village shop or from a passing peddler then at 
local mops and fairs - almost every village had some sort of yearly 
celebration usually connected with the patron saint of the village church. 
Though we don't know the prices of the time buying a bobbin ready spangled 
would certainly have increased the cost and the worker may have decided to 
search through her button tin (we all have them!) and make her own spangle 
up. I would think that more bobbins were spangled by the lacemaker herself 
than the bobbinmaker.


Nothing has changed really in the world of the lacemaker ;o)

Best wishes
Diana




- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Ligeti" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 4:09 AM
Subject: [lace] Spangles on Old bobbins



I have just seen a photo of some of the old bobbins that belonged to
Margaret Tite that are for sale.

(Yes I bought one!! - the one with "Joseph" on the shank - my Great Great
Grandfather's name! - and very similar to the one I already have)

What really surprises me is that the spangles are almost identical to the
old bobbins that have been passed down through my family.



Would the bobbins have been spangled by the bobbin maker, or the bobbin
seller?  I cannot believe that such similar beads would have been 
available
generally for spangling, when people did not leave the confines of their 
own

villages, sometimes.  Who knows where the Margaret Tite bobbins came
from/were used. My family came from the villages around Bedford.



If anyone can enlighten me I would be grateful.  - Brian, is this an area
within your expertise?



Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.

lizl...@bigpond.com

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