[lace] Fish bones and the like. Evidence...

2011-05-23 Thread Brian Lemin
I do not know if folk lore ever becomes fact.  I do not think the evidence in
terms that we accept in modern days really exists.

I have become very pragmatic about things these days and  I seem to think that
the hand me down stories have an element of truth in them, but there seems no
real evidence that what some person did years ago, for what ever reason they
did it, turns into Lace-makers-used-to-use-fish bones ... -whatever.  I
just do not believe it.

There was the story that the  Museum in Edinburgh had a pillow with bones as
bobbins, and I followed that up and museum could not confirm that and indeed
had an element of doubt.  Some keen people have re-created pillows with bone
bobbins and pins of some type, but that proves nothing.

A slightly obtuse story now.  I had a colleague who was determined to live in
a lovely country house.  He and his wife were active seekers, and when they
found a house they liked they asked themselves one question; What if we
needed a box of matches after we came home from work?  The answer to that
question was a determinant for their purchase  (They did eventually buy a nice
country house.. not far from the Village store)

The point I want to make is that a cottage lace maker that needed a few pins
and could not get them till the lace man came around next, got her husband
to to sliver some chicken bones  (whatever) to tide her over.

It was a great time for Make do and Mend

I cant think that the use of these pin or bobbin alternatives had any
permanency.

There is the exception of hand carved/twig bobbins of which there are many
examples around these days.  These could well have originated as the result of
need of some sort and stayed on because they clearly worked with little
inconvenience.

There is nothing more convenient than a pin!

BTW it is  a fascinating thread which has thrown up some very interesting
things.





Brian and Jean
From Cooranbong. Australia
You can read my bobbin stuff on:
http://tiny.cc/egb85

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Re: [lace] fish bones/magazine articles

2011-05-23 Thread Diana Smith

Hi Liz

I have compiled a database/spreadsheet of articles (of interest to me) from 
my lace magazines.


It has five fields - the name of the mag, the year, its issue/page number, 
subject/title of the article and author/source. So I can put a subject or 
word in 'find' and know which issue I'm looking for. I can just add 
(supposedly!) when ever something new takes my fancy. Works for me - though 
I guess other fields could be added.


Best wishes
Diana in a very windy Northants

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[lace] Question - bobbin lace pattern for sailboat

2011-05-23 Thread Chris Brill-Packard
Hello Everyone, 
Does anyone have a bobbin lace pattern of a sailboat ?   I
would greatly 
appreciate the source and how to purchase/obtain the pattern.  
It will be used 
as a raffle item for a local children's hospital next year.  
The group doing 
the raffle contains several sailing groups that attend the
raffle.  Thank you. 
Chris Brill-Packard
Western Reserve Lace Society
Cleveland, Ohio area - where it seems to be raining endlessly this spring

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Re: [lace] Question - bobbin lace pattern for sailboat

2011-05-23 Thread AGlez
Hi Chris,

There are a few nice sail boats in Eeva Liisa Kortelahti's book Let's make
bobbin lace, ISBN 951-99922-3-5, reprinted in 1995.

The boats are inserted in a picture... I mean: it is not an isolated boat,
but  it also has a sea and a sky, making a square motive.

I hope I have made myself understood.

I bought my book directly to the author. But I suppose it is available in
some lace material shops...

Good luck.

Antje González, from Spain.

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[lace] thorns etc.

2011-05-23 Thread Vibeke Ervo
On the Arizona site you can find the book by Sophie Davydoff:
'La dentelle russe, histoire, technique, statistique' (Karl W.
Hiersemann, Leipzig, 1895).
Look at plate A you will see thorns of wild pear used as pins in the
Minsk area of Russia.

In the OIDFA Bulletin 4/1999  p. 46 you can see a lacepillow from
Dalecarlia in Sweden with 'pins' cut from wood.
It is exceptional that such a primitive pillow has been preserved.

Aino Linnove states that in Finland pins made of the backbones from
fish or made of wood were used. In addition the dividing pins could be
made of pig's teeth.

Bodil Tornehave was more specific she stated that it is the backbones
of perch that was used to make pins.

Vibeke in Copenhagen

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[lace] Tutors in the Halkirk Area

2011-05-23 Thread Sue Duckles

Hello all

Does anyone know of a lace teacher in the area around Halkirk  
(Caithness, Scotland) please.  I have a friend who lives there and  
would love to learn bobbin lace!


thanks in advance

Sue in East Yorkshire

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[lace] Re: Question - bobbin lace pattern for sailboat

2011-05-23 Thread Tamara P Duvall
On May 23, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Chris Brill-Packard wrote:

 Hello Everyone, 
 Does anyone have a bobbin lace pattern of a sailboat ?

In addition to the Kortelahti lace pictures which incorporate sailboats that 
Antje mentioned, there's a small sailboat (as an individual motif) in: 
Motieven in kleur; 220 patronen in Russiche kant by Sebastiana van den Herik. 
In the same book, there's also a motif of a full old-fashioned sailing ship 
(3-masts and very pretty). 

Both books (van den Herik's with English translation) are available for loan to 
IOLI members. To join IOLI:
http://www.internationaloldlacers.org/


-- 
Tamara P Duvallhttp://t-n-lace.net/
Lexington, Virginia, USA (Formerly of Warsaw, Poland)

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[lace] Lace teacher in Scotland

2011-05-23 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Sue, if you can't find a teacher for your friend, buy her the Rosemary
Shepherd book, Introduction to Bobbin Lace
http://www.lacedaisypress.com.au/pubs2.html

I know some ladies in the Outback who only had this book, and they all
learned from it, and became excellent lacemakers.

You can pay by Paypal, too - which is a help.

Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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[lace-chat] Tiger on the loose

2011-05-23 Thread Jean Nathan
Over the weekend there was a tiger on the loose in a field not far from 
where I live. A man saw it laying in a field through the zoom lens of his 
camera. It was near a golf course and the police cleared it and told 
everyone to stay in the clubhouse. A cricket match was going on and the 
players were safely in the pavilion.


Marksmen moved into the are and the local zoo got a portable cage and a 
tranquilliser gun that they use on their own tigers for veterinary treatment 
ready, and a police helicopter went to investigate.


As the helicopter descended to get a better look, the downdraft from the 
rotor blades cause the tiger to roll over, and they discovered it was a 
life-size cuddly toy.


The police are initially treating the tiger a lost property, but they are 
investigating whether it was a deliberate hoax. If it was I wouldn't like to 
be the perpetrator - I'm sure they've got quite a few charges ready because 
of the amount of time, manpower and expense involved.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13491268

Makes such a pleasant change to have something like that on the news instead 
of the usual doom and gloom. Really made me smile.


Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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