[lace] starting a scroll

2012-02-25 Thread Lorelei Halley
Robin
All the bobbin part laces that have scrolls as part of their stock of motifs
work them in different ways.  Not wildly different ways.  Honiton, Duchess,
Withof, Bruges Bloomwork -- all different.  And too diffcult to explain in an
email.  The answer would be like writing a small book.  What kind of edge
stitch is used, how do you get around the curve of the scroll head, how many
and where do you add extra pairs and remove them, how complex does the cloth
weaving get, all those sorts of issues.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread robinlace
 pene piip  wrote: 
Please can anyone direct me to a book that shows how to start a scroll.

Pat Read has instructions in her first book on Milanese Lace (can't remember 
the exact title but some Arachnean can, I'm sure).  Do different bobbin lace 
types use different methods of making scrolls?

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
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[lace] Swedish lace and Princess

2012-02-25 Thread Elizabeth Ligeti
Congratulations to Sweden on the safe arrival of a Princess.  Nice to hear
some good news for a change!

I see you mention  Vadstena.. Look at the latest photos of Lace at the Lace
IOLI site that Lorelei mentioned  and there are some photos of a book on the
lace, and the lace made from the prickings shown.

Regards from Liz in Hot humid Melbourne, Oz.
lizl...@bigpond.com

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RE: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread Sue
Hi Pen, 

Try " Milanese Lace An Introduction" by Patricia Read and Lucy Kinkaid there
is a very good section on starting and finishing scrolls in that on Page 20
I found this book indispensable when learning Milanese.

ISBN 07134 5707 4

Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK

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[lace] patterns for children, new lace photos & scrolls

2012-02-25 Thread hottleco
Hello All!  Sorry to say, I couldn't find the children's patterns at the main 
Google page.  Since I'm technologically challenged, is there an expert who 
would make a tiny url??  Thanks Lorelei for the other links to various lace 
works.  The tatted skunk is a hoot.  The little caterpillar is adorable as well 
& would look great on a crazy patch.  Perhaps I should excavate my tatting 
shuttle?  For Pene's scroll issue--and I have no clue whether this would help, 
just remember seeing it--Pat Read has a scroll in her Intro to Milanese 
published by Lace Guild UK.  Have a wonderful weekend everyone.  Sincerely, 
Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens FL USA   

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[lace] starting a scroll

2012-02-25 Thread Lorelei Halley
Pene
There is a book by Rombach-de-Kievid BRUGS BLOEMWERK, 1984, Terra Zutphen
pages 11-12, which also has the Bruges scroll.  But it is in Dutch, which I
can't read.  I have to rely on the diagrams and the Sutton book is about the
same.  Are you getting holes at the pin, or in the middle of the scroll?
Sometimes you need to add an extra pair near the scroll head, which you then
cut off when you reach the long parallel stem of the scroll.  And you may have
to add a pair again when you approach the scroll end.
Lorelei

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Re: [lace] children's lace

2012-02-25 Thread J D Hammett

Hi Lorelei,

Thank you. A number of very useful ideas and possibilities here for anyone 
teaching young people. It is quite easy and useful to use their own drawings 
as well as keeping the youngsters (and also older beginner-students) fully 
engaged.


Happy lace making,

Joepie



Recently someone was asking about patterns for children.  I came across 
these

today.  They might give you ideas.
https://plus.google.com/photos/114087290818766655562/albums/55495529506171349
93/5712366275317622130?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1#photos/114087290818766655562/al
bums/5549552950617134993/5712366275317622130

Lorelei

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Subject: Re: [lace] Removing fold lines from a handkerchief

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Stillwell
Dear Arachnids

I have not looked at the pictures of the 'handkerchiefs' but Joan Tyler-Smith
showed me some square handkerchief-like items with circular centres and wide
lace edgings, many of them silk, and she explained they were made to cover the
face of someone who had died. Does anyone know more about this tradition?

Happy lacemaking

Alex

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Re: [lace] children's lace

2012-02-25 Thread jviking
THanks Lorelei,  What charming patterns!  I ended up looking through the
whole gallery.  There are some neat BL pieces done from children's
drawings - really cool!  And lots ofother simple patterns.

Fun!

Jane in Vermont, USA where we have no snow on the ground!  Life is so much
easier without huge piles of snow everywhere.
jvik...@sover.net

> Recently someone was asking about patterns for children.  I came across
> these
> today.  They might give you ideas.
> https://plus.google.com/photos/114087290818766655562/albums/5549552950617134993/5712366275317622130?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1#photos/114087290818766655562/albums/5549552950617134993/5712366275317622130
>
> Lorelei

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Re: [lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread pene piip
Sorry for not provide more detail.
I wanted to make another Easter Egg from Annelies Kirst's 2nd book.
It's one of the patterns with a butterfly labeled "Duchesse-Ei" on page 18.
I've enlarged it a bit & I want to work it in coloured thread.
She provides a diagram for the pivot turn on the bottom wings, & the 
order of how to work the wings.
But I just don't like the holes at the beginning of the scrolls.
I haven't worked a scroll before, so I'm looking for a better way to 
work them.
I have Edna Sutton's "Bruges Flower Lace" which shows how to start & end 
a simple scroll.
Thanks for everybody's help,
Pene

On 2/25/2012 4:55 PM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote:
> Pene, have you joined http://laceioli.ning.com/ yet? We started this 
> about a month ago. It has superior picture and Youtube capacity. This 
> would be a good question for the Duchesse group.
> Wouldn't it be great if someone would do a scroll and post a Youtube 
> of it.
> Devon
> In a message dated 2/25/2012 8:56:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> p...@eggo.org writes:
>
> Please can anyone direct me to a book that shows how to start a
> scroll.
> I've found 2 methods in Bridget Cook's "Practical Skills" & another
> different
> way in Ulrike Löhr's "400 Tricks" & I'm going to dig up a Duchesse
> book.
> But I just wonder if someone's recently worked a scroll & can help
> to me.
> Thanks,
> Pene
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[lace] Quintin Matsys painting of girl with lace pillow

2012-02-25 Thread Rebecca Mikkelsen
I was reading the book "Point and Pillow Lace" by Mary Sharp (printed in 1905)
and she mentions a painting by Quintin Matsys (1466-1529) of a girl with a
lace pillow as proof that bobbin lace existed in Belgium as early as the end
of the 15th c.  I searched the internet and could not find this picture.  Have
any of you seen it?

Rebecca

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[lace] Starting a Scroll

2012-02-25 Thread pene piip

Please can anyone direct me to a book that shows how to start a scroll.
I've found 2 methods in Bridget Cook's "Practical Skills" & another 
different

way in Ulrike Löhr's "400 Tricks" & I'm going to dig up a Duchesse book.
But I just wonder if someone's recently worked a scroll & can help to me.
Thanks,
Pene

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Re: [lace] Removing fold lines from a handkerchief

2012-02-25 Thread Bridget Marrow
>In fact, I am now wondering
>if they are not handkerchiefs...If not handkerchiefs, could they be challice
veils?  Often mistaken for handkerchiefs, they are used in the Catholic church
to cover the communion cup. Typically they have a rounded centre, rather than
square, of very fine material with quite deep lace edging.  I suppose they
would also have to be washable - the wine would be bound to spill
sometimes!Bridget, in Pinner

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