[lace] Honiton knots
From: hottl...@neo.rr.com Subject: [lace] Royal Honiton Lace Honiton knots vs wasting thread Hello All! Am I the only one who is being driven crazy (-ier!!) by the knot theory of Honiton?!? Hi Susan Honiton thread is very fine and if you wind one bobbin and take off a length to wind on another to make a couple you are likely to end up with the thread making it's own knots. Therefore it is easier to wind each bobbin separately and then knot them in pairs. To avoid knots working their way into the lace wind some thread from one bobbin onto the other, about 9-12 ins or more according to the size of the part of the motif you are making, and make the hitch. This way you should be able to make the motif part without reaching any knots. If you happen to reach a knot add in a new thread as you would if the thread had run out. Traditionally the lace workers would fill their bobbins and knot the pairs. At the end of a motif part they would bow off (cut off the pairs while making a knot), wind the knots across from one bobbin to the other and start a new part of the motif. For the lace workers this would also reduce wastage and hitches hold better if there is a pad of wound thread to hold it. Let me know if any part of this does not make sense. Happy lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] help to learn technique
In response, it is my understanding, although I could easily be wrong, that in the time when lace was made professionally, a new pattern would be taught, or there would be the pricking and a piece of the lace provided to an experienced lacemaker. I imagine that if one is provided only with the pricking there are some elements that explain themselves by the location of the holes, such as a sewing edge, or headside picots, or perhaps tallies, but fillings are always subject to interpretation. On the other hand, for lace such as Honiton or Duchesse, or Withof are basically outlines, where initially there is no pricking as such and the lacemaker decides how to do it, having learned the conventions of that particular lace. A pricking in those circumstances, that is, the pinholes added to the drawing, are actually one lacemaker's interpretation of the drawing. On the other, other hand, I have been doing a simple Bucks edging for almost 2 yards total, and I think I would recognize the pattern of pinholes for the various elements in my sleep, and my teacher firmly believes that one can figure out what to do with a pricking just by looking at it. Oh the other, other, other hand, the modern lacemaker who makes Flanders or Binche, does so with a colored (coloured) diagram at hand. Hope this helps. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where it snowed last night, about an inch, 2.5 cm, and it's presently 23F, -4.5C. JJ wrote: Is there a book or written instructions somewhere that explain how to do a pricking without someone writing out the directions? What I mean, is if I find a pricking, that I could make the pattern with nothing but that pricking? My email sends out an automatic message. Arachne members, please ignore it. I read your emails. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace Magazine
Thanks for the clarification! Clay Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2013, at 1:19 AM, Ruth Budge thelacema...@optusnet.com.au wrote: The first time in America, ClayThere have been many courses in Australia and in the UK ranging from 2 days to a week. Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au On 03/02/2013, at 12:07 PM, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: ..(This is in Virginia, USA.). This is the first full-week course offered for the Lace designer programs, . - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
RE: [lace] help to learn technique
Hi Yes you are correct Lyn. If you have worked through the basic patterns of a type of lace first, then you should recognise certain elements of the pricking. When I first started to learn lacemaking in the early 70s there were only the prickings which the teacher held. If we wanted a copy of that pricking, we copied it by making a new pricking using the existing pricking, at that time there were very few photocopies we could use and I certainly didn't learn how to graph a pattern out until a few years later. And most of the prickings did not have any lace attached to them so we had to rely on our earlier lacemaking experiences to understand the pricking or do our own thing and hoped it was right. Nowadays there are plenty of lacemaking books on offer which should show how to work the various types of lace, there are books on how to graph out lace patterns and even how to design lace from scratch. But if you are a virtual beginner to lacemaking, then the best way is to try and find a teacher who could help you through the early stages. There are some beginners books on the market which may help. So the best way of going about it is to study the pricking, from which you will hopefully recognise the type of lace, see what elements you recognise and then refer to a lace book for anything you don't recognise. If you do not have a book on that particular type of lace, then it can normally be borrowed from The Lace Guild (if you are a member) or maybe someone in your local lace group will either be a teacher, or be prepared to help you. Maureen E Yorks UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Honiton knot advice
Hello All! Thank you Bev, Ruth, Jacquie Alex for giving advice on Honiton knots--great suggestions all. My copy of the Lace Guild Honiton booklet now has a Knot Tips section for easy reference. At some point, I hope there will be a (mostly) error-free piece of lace to show. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Palm Beach Gardens, FL, USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Lace8
I think Clay is referring to Lace8. I took a course in Pennsylvania at a convention years ago with Liz. Sorry I can't do this one but I will be in Ireland, Wales and England during that week. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org The first time in America, ClayThere have been many courses in Australia and in the UK ranging from 2 days to a week. Ruth thelacema...@optusnet.com.au On 03/02/2013, at 12:07 PM, Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net wrote: ..(This is in Virginia, USA.). This is the first full-week course offered for the Lace designer programs, . - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Wedding veils
Hi Karen, Hope to make a few suggestions that might stimulate ideas. Some remove their veil for the reception, so people aren't close enough to see the underside during the wedding/reception line. It would also save wear and tear on the veil (and in this case I suggest you leave the tulle for foundation. You can always cut it off later). The lace design could become lighter/smaller/narrower on one side of the round (or ellipse) that goes over the face, so less obvious. Lace details moving up the back, viewed by the attendees, could create more balance for this asymmetrical design. You could consider using only motifs in the face area (with perhaps a sewn design between then if you need continuity) and put the mirror image on the underside so the weight from both sides would be more even. You could consider doing the same mirrored effect with the lace (having the duplicate on the underside of about 1/3 also, but consider the extra weight created, so it may not hang as desired. You could leave the face portion plain for the wedding, and attach the remaining after the wedding, as depending upon the lace design, tulle, hair design and placement on the head, the weight can make it go flat/close to the face, which may not be desirable. None of these are ideal, but offering up ideas for consideration and to stimulate creative options. I could agree about using silk, as it is a very strong fiber if cared for, which antique kimono's, etc. attest to. I understand that the care may not be controlled, and with all the effort involved, you want the work to live on for hundreds of years. The main reason I mention this is, that cotton can be heavier for the tulle to host, also. Thinking of the 'hand' of the veil, will also likely help with these kinds of decisions. After all, any wedding dresses have been made of silk over time...I would also think about compatibility with the dress, as there is a strong likelihood that they will be kept and passed on down, together. HTH, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Arachne Flickr account
I went in to see Janice's Lester lace - which is wonderful, Janice. Well done. You did the gimped veins beautifully. Wow! But when I tried to post a comment (as above!) - of course it wanted me to sign in. Previously I have had no problem, but today, it did not recognise me, and gave a letter and number code. I put that in, then it wanted further verification - like my youngest daughters name, or some other verification. What is this all about? I am still with the same internet supplier, but have changed the Browser. If I Have to do the verification - what words do I use to answer their questions? Please Help!!! Do I need to return to the previous browser? Regards from Liz in Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Arachne Flickr account
Hello Liz and everyone I just went there myself. I don't have a yahoo ID, but I signed in as arachne2003 and the password Honiton. I was then able to comment. You should be able to sign in with whatever you use when you add a photo to your own album, and in the fleeting moment that I did see the sign-in window, I think there is a click-option for forgotten password etc. Does this help? ...even a bit? good luck - and yes you might want to try from the old browser to see if that makes the difference On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti lizl...@bigpond.comwrote: I went in to see Janice's Lester lace - which is wonderful, Janice. Well done. You did the gimped veins beautifully. Wow! But when I tried to post a comment (as above!) - of course it wanted me to sign in. Previously I have had no problem, but today, it did not recognise me, and gave a letter and number code. I put that in, then it wanted further verification - like my youngest daughters name, or some other verification. What is this all about? I am still with the same internet supplier, but have changed the Browser. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] lace clothing
And on the subject of lace clothing, Beyonce wore lace for her show at the Super Bowl this evening designed by up-and-coming designer, Rubin Singer. I think that not that many of us would be seen out in a costume like hers. You can see it at this link - some quite good catches of the lace at about 7:45 to 8:10 http://pitchfork.com/news/49399-watch-beyonces-super-bowl-performance/ Malvary in Ottawa where friend who was watching the game has now gone home, but I got a lot of lace done. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
