Re: [lace] threads
Hi Jane, It is a cotton (vintage types) cord wrapped in rayon. If you look at modern wedding laces with a 'gimp', the gimp cord is similar to what they are suggesting. Here is a close-up from a modern piece: http://doily.exblog.jp/8393729. It is much heavier than a normal gimp thread. Vintage cord turns up occasionally on eBay and is often advertised as crochet gimp. I think it may have been used to crochet purses. I was in a ribbon store in Toronto recently and they had rayon gimp available in quite a number colours. I think some fabric stores carry it but maybe only in white and black, and I suspect the modern version is probably a polyester core with a rayon wrapping. Hope this helps, Cindy Rusak, Bracebridge, ON, Canada On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Jane O'Connor wrote: > I, too, have a threads question. What is Mirecourt cord? I picked up a > pattern > yesterday that call for it used as a gimp and have no idea what the thread > is > or > possible substitution. Help! > Jane O'Connor > New Lenox, IL USA > > - > To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: > unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to > arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/ > - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] threads
I, too, have a threads question. What is Mirecourt cord? I picked up a pattern yesterday that call for it used as a gimp and have no idea what the thread is or possible substitution. Help! Jane O'Connor New Lenox, IL USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] threads
I, too like Aurifil. Introduced at a point ground class by Ulrike Voelker. Mako 50 is comparable to Egyptian cotton 60, but with a much more linen like feel. Also has a nice, subdued but definite luster. I'm making an American flag with it, miles of cloth stitich it seems, but the luster is very pleasant. The luster doesn't show on 'regular' lace, as in Bucks point. But the slightly stiffer feel can be very useful, since I'm not sure they make linen in that size. It's also a nice, strong thread. Made in Italy, I believe. And lots of colors. Doesn't really come finder than 50. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, USA, where the first tropical storm has passed, with only 2 inches of rain, and then lovely weather, great for weeding and lacemaking on the deck. Lorelei wrote: I like Aurifil and Sulky quilting threads. Size 50 is comparable to DMC #50 Broder Machine. They both have lots and lots of beautiful colors. Size 30 is comparable to DMC #30 Broder Machine. http://www.redrockthreads.com/aurifil-thread/ http://www.ericas.com/threads/sulky_cottonsolids.htm - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] What makes a good thread for bobbin lace?
Thank you so much, Brenda, for responding to my post. I love, love, love your thread book and refer to it constantly. I appreciate the details you wrote out and I, too, have printed out this post and will keep it in my copy of your book. To get a little more detailed, I think the reason I started pondering this is that one of the threads I was using is called Painter's Thread - all of their colors are named for famous artists, this one is Kandinsky - Soie de Paris. The thread is made in Germany and I met the woman who I think is the US wholesaler (?) for it at the ANG (American Needlepoint Guild) Seminar last summer. I bought a few of her finer threads, this Soie de Paris being one of them. The package lists two websites: www.tentakulum.de and www.paintersthreads.eu . I didn't see this silk thread or this company listed in Brenda's book, but it could be that it is actually some other silk thread that is just dyed by this company. So, when I was doing my little bobbin lace motif, all half stitch, I was having a hard time with the thread really loosening. In looking in the intro of your book, I noted the Z-twist and S-twist info. And yet, studying this thread, it really does look like a Z-twist, not an S. 2-ply. So, that got me thinking about whether this thread was really "up to the challenge" of bobbin lace. Worked fine and all for my little experiment, but why was it loosening? Then, one of the other threads I was using was a Caron Waterlilies (which is in Brenda's book), which was working just fine and not really loosening or tightening in any way, is an S-twist. Of course, I do realize Brenda's words are just about the "tendency" of a thread and not that every single one will act one way or another. So, if anyone has any thoughts about the Painter's Thread and why it was loosening so significantly on me, I would be interested. I was doing the same motif, same stitches, same bobbins, three different times with three different threads and it was very interesting to see how they worked differently. Many thanks, Arlene in NJ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] threads
I like Aurifil and Sulky quilting threads. Size 50 is comparable to DMC #50 Broder Machine. They both have lots and lots of beautiful colors. Size 30 is comparable to DMC #30 Broder Machine. http://www.redrockthreads.com/aurifil-thread/ http://www.ericas.com/threads/sulky_cottonsolids.htm Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Jean Leader
Does anyone have an email address for Jean Leader or is Jean Leader on the Arachne list? I would like to get in touch with her. Thank you and sorry asking the list for this info. Please respond privately. Wind To Thy Wings, Sherry celticdreamwe...@yahoo.com http://celticdreamweaver.com/ http://celticdreamweave.blogspot.com/ Nata 616 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] tatting
Two of us at least talking about tatting at the moment are across the pond from you, so over 1000 miles away. Too far to travel, but the book I am currently reading through will lead me in the right direction I think. Good luck with the demo and tutorial. Sue T Dorset UK There will be a tatting demo & tutorial session on Sat. June 15th at the Cortland, OH branch of the Warren-Trumbull County Library. If anyone needs tatting assistance, please drop in! Our tatting leader uses the Rosemarie Peel foldout guide. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] tatting
There will be a tatting demo & tutorial session on Sat. June 15th at the Cortland, OH branch of the Warren-Trumbull County Library. If anyone needs tatting assistance, please drop in! Our tatting leader uses the Rosemarie Peel foldout guide. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] threads for bobbin lace
Hello All! Thank you Brenda for sharing your thread advice! It's already printed & secured with your book!! As an embroiderer, novice lacemaker & unrepentant thread junkie, I have a thread stash that rivals the inventory of a small needlwork shop. Arlene's point is well taken--idle threads are the devil's workshop! That said, the type & scale of the lace is definitely the issue for me & therein lies the problem. I love the flowers & critters of Honiton, but they lose something in the translation when used with larger scale threads & prickings. Oliver Twist is my favorite variegated cotton, but my Honiton leaves look--well--lumpy. Madeira Cotona is a better weight but colors are limited. So I'm now considering the advice of my friend who works Hardanger. She's been complaining for years because she needs perle 8 & 12 in the same color & DMC limits the color range of size 12. She finally gave up & now makes her pieces in white or ecru & dyes the whole thing after th! e fact. Our next EGA meeting is the annual dyeing day so I'd better get it in gear if I'm going to take lace in addition to all the ribbons, canvas, linen & threads that are on my to-dye list! My sense is that Torchon looks good in a larger scale with a broader range of threads, while other styles take on a garish appearance as proportions are increased. Even so, I will stay tuned to see what more experienced lacemakers have to say. Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] Spain - Mares Lace Museum in Arenys de Mar
Hi Jeri and all. I am only aware of two books that the Spanish can accede to know more about their lace history: That of 'Spanish lace and lacemaking' by Florence May and 'Catálogo de encajes' by Maria Angeles Gonzalez Mena. Unfortunately, other French and English authors ignore practically Spanish laces, excepting those called 'Puntos de España'. Incidentally, there are references to, and pictures of, lacemakers 3 years old - an age our generation thinks is impossible. They have been dressed up in their finest clothes, but so have the adults! Yes Jeri! there are yet children learning bobbin lace by here...just in the last Diada (26Th. May), we realized that among the 2.200 lace participants demonstrating, they could be observed people of different lace generations. I just mounted a short slide show, showing ladies of 80 years, middle ages, young, even a child of 4 years Here it is a link to the pictures: http://www.puntaires.com/mm/file/lace-generation.mp4 another link, reporting The 26Th. Diada de la Puntaire: http://www.puntaires.com/en/26diadapuntaire.html Scrolling down the page you will find a video of the event. Enjoy Kind regards Carolina. Barcelona. Spain http://www.arolgallego.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] What makes a good thread for bobbin lace?
As you say any thread can be used for bobbin lace, but some are better than others! First of all the thickness *has* to be compatible with the scale of the pricking. Secondly, for some people the direction of the twist makes a lot of difference. Because BL has more twists (right over left) than crosses (left over right) working at speed will tend to tighten a Z twisted thread but loosen an S twisted thread. Some people like to stick to Z twisted for that reason, though personally I don't have a problem with either direction. Thirdly, the number of plies in a thread makes a difference. 2-ply will flatten and bed into the other threads a lot more than a 3-ply thread which will stay rounder. Thus 2-ply thread makes a softer, drapier lace than 3-ply thread. 6-ply threads (usually 3 x 2-ply spun together) will remain very firm and round and will make a firm, even harsh, feeling lace. Good for table mats but not so good to wear. Fourthly the fibre used to make the thread makes a big difference. Linen is crisper than cotton, silk as softer especially if it's spun silk. Reeled/filament silk is very shiny and slippery which means that it can be difficult to control. Rayon threads are usually very shiny and slippery too and anything glittery/metallic is usually very quite hard and scratchy when made up. Used mainly in small amounts for effect. Novelty/textured yarns have a place for modern lace but they can be difficult to work with. Cotton and linen will launder better than other fibres. Last, but certainly not least, there is colour to consider. In the end the choice of which thread to use comes down to personal preference based on the end use of the lace being made. SO long as it is the right thickness for the pricking - and available in your part of the world - anything can be used if you like the finished effect. Brenda On 9 Jun 2013, at 15:15, Arlene Cohen wrote: > Recently, I've been playing around > with some variegated thread on a bobbin lace design. Did the same small > design with three different types of threads, all coming from my needlework > stash and not threads that I had ever thought to use on lace before. (I tend > to be a "traditionalist" of mostly white and ecru lace pieces.) An > interesting experiment in color that got me thinking: what makes a "good" > thread for bobbin lace? Would there be any particular quality (twist, sheen, > etc.) that you think is better than not to have? Brenda in Allhallows www.brendapaternoster.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] What makes a good thread for bobbin lace?
Hello, all - Seems to be quiet here, so I thought I would post a question that I've been puzzling over in my mind. Recently, I've been playing around with some variegated thread on a bobbin lace design. Did the same small design with three different types of threads, all coming from my needlework stash and not threads that I had ever thought to use on lace before. (I tend to be a "traditionalist" of mostly white and ecru lace pieces.) An interesting experiment in color that got me thinking: what makes a "good" thread for bobbin lace? Would there be any particular quality (twist, sheen, etc.) that you think is better than not to have? Sure, any thread that can be crossed and twisted can be used for lace - and, while I'm at it, let's not even limit that to *thread*, since yarn, rope, fence wiring, etc. have all been manipulated into the motions of bobbin lace. But, as I was using one particular type of silk thread that I haven't seen sold by a lace supplier but certainly can be found in nearly every needlework store, it just got me thinking about how threads are determined to be lace threads. Arlene in NJ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Re: [lace] thread
> > The thread listed for the fineest pricking is 'Bandgarn13,5' in English 'Skein > 13,5'. I have Egyptian cotton nos. 180/2, 185/2, 190/2 200/2 and 240/2. Will > any of these do. I suspect that the size is critical for the ground to work as > it is not pinned. my book on mechelen Kant says:Distance between the needlepoint's on the border: 2,5 mm. 120 cotton Egyptian 2,2 mm 170 cotton Egyptian 2,0 echeveau 13,5. I never came across this echeveau thread, but I would try the 240 cotton , I consider it will be just the size, maybe a little thinner than asked. I am looking forward to see your progress in the book, your lace is always so fine and beautiful. Alix from Luxembourg. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
Fw: [lace] Re: Tatting Books
My addition to this subject is not to take away from any of the suggestions from tatters, people who tatt often or who teach tatting, but to people like me who have wanted to, or would like to learn to tatt from scratch but either not achieved it, or struggle. A dear friend suggested a book to me and I wondered if yet another book and dvd was worth the buying with my record over the last 30 odd years. I have loved the look of but never quite understood how to achieve it (until recently when I used a lacet chart and shuttle kit and got the click when showing my husband what he wasn't doing right, LOL.) We were both trying alongside the disc playing on the household television. I have achieved rings, a butterfly and a motif from needle tatting in the last year, but still wanted to learn shuttle tatting. Anyway yesterday I received the new book and disc and have played the first 3 lessons this morning and Eureka, I saw and completely understood the movements and the chant I wanted, ie when to go under over and when over under movements. It is called Learn to Tat by Janette Baker, with an interactive dvd. I know nothing more about her or it than what I have seen in 24 hours, but have seen the book on the Roseground website in the UK. Sue T Dorset UK I think I would suggest looking at Lyn Morton's books - her website is www.tatting.co.uk - also the small inexpensive books that Rosemarie Peel has produced over the years - http://www.lacet.co.uk Both are very helpful ladies, and Lyn also supplies threads and shuttles etc. Rosemarie's diagrams on her 'Learn Tatting with Lacet' leaflet (and in the new basic tatting book) are about the clearest I've seen. I would also suggest you join either the Ring of Tatters or The Lace Guild - both have libraries which include books that are now out of print, and this would also enable you to see what was available before purchasing. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Sheila Perrin's Funeral
I have been asked to forward details of the arrangements for Sheila Perrin's funeral (copy and pasted below). Would you please pass on details to any lace groups or friends who may be able to attend. Many thanks Catherine Barley Catherine Barley Needlelace www.catherinebarley.com Sheila Perrin's funeral will take place at The Chilterns Crematorium, Amersham http://www.chilternscrematorium.co.uk/ on Thursday June 20 at 11.30, the Milton Chapel, and afterwards at The Crown in Old Amersham http://www.thecrownamersham.com/ . Please let Julie know if you hope to attend, purely for catering purposes. julieper...@tiscali.co.uk Flowers are more than welcome as long as they're small & seasonal & can be sent to the Funeral Directors by 4.30pm on Wed 19th June, James Peddle Ltd 10 Moneyhill Parade Rickmansworth Hertfordshire WD3 7BE Or be brought with you Donations in lieu of flowers may be given to any of the following charities: Royal Brompton and Harefield Charitable Trust http://rbhcharity.org/ The Lace Guild - Sheila Perrin Bursary www.laceguild.org The Mayhew Animal Home http://themayhew.org/ Alternative - a plant for Russell to put in garden in her memory ( or Garden voucher for same) It will be a happy celebration of a very special life. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] thread
Hi Arachnids I bought the 'Syllabus Mechelso Kant 1' when it first came out. I wanted to have a go. Then two books on Bucks Point took over and they are now finished. I want a change and thought I would indulge myself. I like using fine thread and I have no idea where to get the fine one suggested or what its current equivalent is. The thread listed for the fineest pricking is 'Bandgarn13,5' in English 'Skein 13,5'. I have Egyptian cotton nos. 180/2, 185/2, 190/2 200/2 and 240/2. Will any of these do. I suspect that the size is critical for the ground to work as it is not pinned. Help! Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
[lace] Re: Tatting Books
I think I would suggest looking at Lyn Morton's books - her website is www.tatting.co.uk - also the small inexpensive books that Rosemarie Peel has produced over the years - http://www.lacet.co.uk Both are very helpful ladies, and Lyn also supplies threads and shuttles etc. Rosemarie's diagrams on her 'Learn Tatting with Lacet' leaflet (and in the new basic tatting book) are about the clearest I've seen. I also learnt to tat from a mixed craft book - together with an old Coats' book - having tried and failed with several people (including my mother!) showing me. Sat next to Rosemarie at a lace day, she quickly picked up on what I was still doing wrong and gently corrected me. Unfortunately due to technical problems Rosemarie's earlier books are now out of print, but you may be able to find second hand copies. Lyn has been helpful more on the supply side of things, though was able to tell me a lot about the last two pieces that Mom tatted, and which was the last she worked on, when I asked for her advice on whether or not to attempt completion. I would also suggest you join either the Ring of Tatters or The Lace Guild - both have libraries which include books that are now out of print, and this would also enable you to see what was available before purchasing. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lacemaker/sets/
