[lace] Au ver a Soie silk 100/3

2014-10-10 Thread Catherine Barley
Dear Spiders

I've had a query regarding a project in my book regarding the use of Au Ver a
Soie 100/3 silk thread as an alternative to the Gutermann 100/3 silk thread
specified.  I've never used it myself so don't have a reel to compare but can
any of you tell me if it is close to the Gutermann 100/3 in wpc?  Obviously
it's not as crucial as in bobbin lace, as one simply works more stitches to
each row but does need to be of a fairly similar weight/gauge.  Brenda, I
think you are the most knowledgeable on this subject, can you please advise me
on this one?

Catherine Barley
Henley-on-Thames
UK

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Re: [lace] gimp thread vs coarse thread

2014-10-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Susan

Gimp/coarse thread in Honiton is more subtle than in Torchon so err towards the 
finer end; perhaps only four times the thickness of the main thread, so divide 
w/cm of main thread by 2 instead of 2.5.

So, 100/2 Egyptian gassed cotton = 56w/cm.
56/2 = 28 which is the same as DMC Cordonnet 70, so in terms of thickness you 
are spot on.  But, Cordonnet is a very firmly twisted, double plied thread 
which keeps its definition within the lace.  Is that what you want? or do you 
want something softer as was used in most traditional Honiton lace?  A 35wt or 
40 sewing cotton might be more appropriate.

Valdani All-Purpose mercerised cotton = 2Z - 28 w/cm
Presencia Finca 40 = 3Z - 29 w/cm
Superior Threads King Tut 40/3 = 3Z - 28 w/cm

Brenda


On 9 Oct 2014, at 23:41,   wrote:

> Hello All!  Brenda, thanks so much for the tutorial on gimp thread sizing.  
> How handy is that!?!  May I ask if this same ratio applies to coarse threads 
> in Honiton or Mirecourt?  I'm taking a Honiton class shortly & the primary 
> thread is Egyptian cotton 100/2.  The teacher suggested DMC cordonnet 60 for 
> the coarse thread.  I own both 60 & 70 & she said 70 would work too.  In 
> looking at the threads, the 60 seems a bit beefy, while the 70 seems more 
> subtle.  On the other hand, perhaps the greater contrast will make all the 
> difference once it's off the pillow!  We wouldn't want wimpy Honiton!!
> What should I be looking for here?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, 
> Erie, PA USA   
> 

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] IOLI Bulletin

2014-10-10 Thread Jeriames
Thank you, Pene, for the update.  Everyone loves to receive a lace  
bulletin, and sometimes they do not realize how much goes into getting one  
into 
members' mailboxes.  
 
It is unfortunate that our Lace Guilds must rely on unpaid volunteer  
editors, who probably do not receive nearly enough appreciation.   The job of 
publishing 4 bulletins a year happens to require an  enormous amount of 
personal time and devotion to lace.  Editors need  help.  So do proofreaders.   
A 
representative of one  overseas national Guild has told me they have 3 
proofreaders who read the  entire contents of a bulletin from cover-to-cover 
before it is sent to the  printer!
 
Sometimes, our editors are juggling careers that pay bills, as well as  
keeping a spouse and family happy, and home running smoothly.   They really 
need tangible support to stay healthy and strong.  I have  written about the 
unpaid efforts of our remarkable lace women before.  When  they volunteer, it 
would be nice to have someone in the local lace  group who lives nearby 
volunteer to help with errands and the  time-consuming extras (taking the 
family 
dog to the vet, picking up dry  cleaning and the like, waiting for a car to 
be serviced, etc).  Can we help  them out a bit, if we live near them?   
 
Thinking back to my years of working at a newspaper over 50 years ago,  I 
recall that I was required to read other daily newspapers as well as our  
own.  This brought forward items of interest that our newspaper had not  
covered but might be of interest to our department's student readers aged  
13-18.  
 
Lace editors need time to "take our pulse".   One Bulletin  Editor 
personally contacted me, and I learned she was aware of  contents of Arachne.   
She 
somehow found time to glance  past any "me too" memos on Arachne and take 
note of what lace people around  the world were finding of interest. 
 
This is something for our various national and  international Guild leaders 
to ponder.   I hope  they have good backup plans for Bulletin Editors, who 
are human like  the rest of us and need support so they won't "burn out".
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
  
 
 
In a message dated 10/9/2014 2:58:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Dear  Fellow Aracheans,
When the question was asked about when the next issue  of
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was in Paris  for the week.

I had proofread the magazine earlier in September,  for
the Editor, who unfortunately is not a subscriber to
Arachne. It is  due to be mailed in early October, so
members should be receiving their  copies soon.

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Re: [lace] Au ver a Soie silk 100/3

2014-10-10 Thread Brenda Paternoster
Hi Cathy

I would if I could but as I’ve never seen any Au ver a Soie 100/3 I’ve not 
measured it.  Can anyone else help?

Brenda
> 
> I've had a query regarding a project in my book regarding the use of Au Ver a
> Soie 100/3 silk thread as an alternative to the Gutermann 100/3 silk thread
> specified.  I've never used it myself so don't have a reel to compare but can
> any of you tell me if it is close to the Gutermann 100/3 in wpc?  Obviously
> it's not as crucial as in bobbin lace, as one simply works more stitches to
> each row but does need to be of a fairly similar weight/gauge.  Brenda, I
> think you are the most knowledgeable on this subject, can you please advise me
> on this one?

Brenda in Allhallows
paternos...@appleshack.com
www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

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Re: [lace] Au ver a Soie silk 100/3

2014-10-10 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Catherine,
the silk Au Ver a Soie is indeed very close to Gütermann 110/3, when I remember 
right a little bit thicker. I used up all mine therefore I can't take both in 
my hand and compare. It depend on your way of  working, if you work not to 
dense it's ok. It is a wonderful thread to make bobbin lace with. 

Ilske



Am 10.10.2014 um 08:56 schrieb Catherine Barley 
:

> Dear Spiders
> 
> I've had a query regarding a project in my book regarding the use of Au Ver a
> Soie 100/3 silk thread as an alternative to the Gutermann 100/3 silk thread
> specified.  I've never used it myself so don't have a reel to compare but can
> any of you tell me if it is close to the Gutermann 100/3 in wpc?  Obviously
> it's not as crucial as in bobbin lace, as one simply works more stitches to
> each row but does need to be of a fairly similar weight/gauge.  Brenda, I
> think you are the most knowledgeable on this subject, can you please advise me
> on this one?
> 
> Catherine Barley
> Henley-on-Thames
> UK
> 
> Catherine Barley Needlelace
> www.catherinebarley.com
> 
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Re: [lace] gimp thread vs coarse thread

2014-10-10 Thread hottleco
Excellent!  Thanks again Brenda!!  You've given me some additional options to 
consider.  The Lace Day vendors open early tomorrow so I'll be first in line to 
examine the threads.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle getting ready to be Honitonized 
in NY

iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2014, at 4:12 AM, Brenda Paternoster  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Susan
> 
> Gimp/coarse thread in Honiton is more subtle than in Torchon so err towards 
> the finer end; perhaps only four times the thickness of the main thread, so 
> divide w/cm of main thread by 2 instead of 2.5.
> 
> So, 100/2 Egyptian gassed cotton = 56w/cm.
> 56/2 = 28 which is the same as DMC Cordonnet 70, so in terms of thickness you 
> are spot on.  But, Cordonnet is a very firmly twisted, double plied thread 
> which keeps its definition within the lace.  Is that what you want? or do you 
> want something softer as was used in most traditional Honiton lace?  A 35wt 
> or 40 sewing cotton might be more appropriate.
> 
> Valdani All-Purpose mercerised cotton = 2Z - 28 w/cm
> Presencia Finca 40 = 3Z - 29 w/cm
> Superior Threads King Tut 40/3 = 3Z - 28 w/cm
> 
> Brenda
> 
> 
>> On 9 Oct 2014, at 23:41,   wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All!  Brenda, thanks so much for the tutorial on gimp thread sizing.  
>> How handy is that!?!  May I ask if this same ratio applies to coarse threads 
>> in Honiton or Mirecourt?  I'm taking a Honiton class shortly & the primary 
>> thread is Egyptian cotton 100/2.  The teacher suggested DMC cordonnet 60 for 
>> the coarse thread.  I own both 60 & 70 & she said 70 would work too.  In 
>> looking at the threads, the 60 seems a bit beefy, while the 70 seems more 
>> subtle.  On the other hand, perhaps the greater contrast will make all the 
>> difference once it's off the pillow!  We wouldn't want wimpy Honiton!!
>> What should I be looking for here?  Many thanks.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, 
>> Erie, PA USA   
> 
> Brenda in Allhallows
> paternos...@appleshack.com
> www.brendapaternoster.co.uk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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