[lace] Must I push down pins?

2015-11-11 Thread Janice Blair
You will make life easier if you push down the pins, but you only need to keep
the outer row of pins.  You can reuse the ones in the center of the lace if
you are not already doing so.  You need to keep the outer row because when
you are making a sewing you do not want to accidentally pull too hard on the
opposite side which might pull your lace out of shape.  I use a pin pusher to
lift my pins as I found it was easy to catch the lace with the fork type pin
lifters.
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Re: [lace] Using a pin pusher as a pin puller

2015-11-11 Thread lacel...@frontier.com
The pin pusher in discussion is the narrow metal rod with a dimple in the end
of the metal.  A caution, though. There are two versions of this made by
different people.    One has the dimple curving in from the edge of the
metal rod.  The other has a tiny straight-walled section cut in the rod in
front of the curved dimple.  It's the second one that works well as a pin
lifter.  The tiny straight section will catch under the edge of the pin head
for lifting.  The first kind has no edge to catch on the pin.  It is much
more difficult to lift pins with.
Another caution to new lacemakers.  One common pin lifter looks like the
forked tongue of a snake.  Be very careful with this one.  It's very easy to
catch a point under a thread instead of just under the pinhead.  It can cut
the thread when lifting the pin.
Of course, you can skip using either of these tools if your pattern is
completely finished.  Use the Cantu method -- just grab the edges of the
pricking and lift the whole thing off the pillow.  It takes a tug, but the
pins are much easier to remove from the project when not stuck in the
pillow.  If it's a large project, lift one corner or section at a lime. 
When the teacher demonstrated this in class, I thought of all the pins I had
laboriously pulled out of projects over the years.

Happy lacing,Alice in Oregon -- where we had lots of rain interspersed with
brief glimpses of the sun.  PS -- My lace exhibit is now up in Tillamook,
Oregon, for the next two months.


 On Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:15 PM, Susan 
wrote:


 Hello All!  Just wanted to share a hint I learned from Louise Colgan--use
the pin pusher sort of sideways to lift pins.  Since it is a smooth
cylindrical surface, it doesn't have little "feet" to disturb your lace. 
Just slip the lip of the pusher under the edge of your pin head.  Hope this
helps Julia with her scarf adventure.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA

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[lace] Using a pin pusher as a pin puller

2015-11-11 Thread Susan
Hello All!  Just wanted to share a hint I learned from Louise Colgan--use the 
pin pusher sort of sideways to lift pins.  Since it is a smooth cylindrical 
surface, it doesn't have little "feet" to disturb your lace.  Just slip the lip 
of the pusher under the edge of your pin head.  Hope this helps Julia with her 
scarf adventure.  Sincerely, Susan Hottle, Erie, PA USA 

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Re: [lace] Must I push down pins?

2015-11-11 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Beth, Julie and everyone

Agree with Beth on the ease of work with pins pushed in ;)
For Torchon, leave in a good inch, probably two for large format laces but
be aware of any threads that might pull the lace if not anchored. You'll
soon find out ( 'oops' or a word to that effect), but you can smooth the
lace back into place, and at that spot, reposition the pin in all the way,
removing when out of the danger zone.

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Beth Marshall  wrote:

> Hi Julie
>
> I'm not an expert on this, but when I do piece-lace motif with fillings I
> either push all the pins right down or take all but the edge ones out (and
> push those down) before I move on to the next section - it makes a big
> difference to how easy (or not ;-) ) it is to push bobbins out of the way.
>
>
>>
-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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Re: [lace] Must I push down pins?

2015-11-11 Thread Beth Marshall

Hi Julie

I'm not an expert on this, but when I do piece-lace motif with fillings 
I either push all the pins right down or take all but the edge ones out 
(and push those down) before I move on to the next section - it makes a 
big difference to how easy (or not ;-) ) it is to push bobbins out of 
the way.


On something like your scarf I'd be tempted to remove as many columns of 
pins as I dared, and would push the rest down almost flat (leave just 
enough "stalk" to wiggle that pin lifter between the thread and pin-head 
safely when you do take them out).


How many columns of pins you need to leave in will depend on how the 
threads move in your scarf pricking and how close/loose the weave in - 
if there are threads which work across from one side to the other with 
very few pins/twists you'll need to leave more in than if all the 
threads are zig-zagging between tightly-packed pins.


Can anyone more knowledgeable suggest a "rule of thumb" for judging how 
many/which pins Julie needs to leave in to avoid distorting the worked 
sections?


Beth
In a grey & windy Cheshire, NW England (where if it isn't raining, it's 
usually about to rain...)



Julie wrote:

So, having done a full column of sewings, I couldn't help put notice the large, 
obtrusive wall of pins on the left side of my pillow the entire time I was 
working the second horizontal strip.  Having the left side of  my pillow cut 
off from me unpleasantly constrained my working area.  I laid a small piece of 
cloth over the pins so I could throw my bobbins there when I wasn't using them, 
and that worked fine and I had no problem with threads tangling in the pins, 
but when I was crossing and twisting it didn't feel natural to try to scale the 
bobbins over the wall of pins and onto the cloth, so the bobbins I was working 
with were all over to the right side.  Which felt crowded.  Also, the 
tensioning direction was wrong, so after the stitch I kept picking up bobbin 
pairs and pulling them all the way over to the left so that tension was in the 
correct direction, in particular so that cloth stich passives didn't bunch up 
over on the right side of the cloth trail.



So, now, here I am, doing a piece lace sort of thing--sewing--and Iseem to 
remember something about pushing down pins so they don't get in the way?  Is 
that what I really need to do to get rid of the wall of pins on my left?   ALL 
the pins?  There are so many!  And then I will have to dig them all up again to 
remove them from the lace!  Instead of pushing them all down, should I remove 
most of the pins when I finish the horizontal strip and just leave in a few 
columns of pins along the edge, pushed down?  How many columns (this is 
torchon)?  I have a pin pusher (I like to push down headside and footside pins 
in point ground) so it won't hurt my fingers.  I think I might also have a pin 
puller upper, but I never liked it because I worried it would catch on the 
lace.  Will getting rid of the wall of pins really improve my life so much as 
to be worth the extra trouble of pushing down the pins?

It just seems like a weird concept to me, pushing down pins, since it's not 
something I usually do.


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[lace] Must I push down pins?

2015-11-11 Thread jsyzygy
I'd like to make a lace scarf because why not?  I've never made a lace scarf 
before.  I'm using a design, design 11, from Brigitte Bellon's Kloppelmuster 
fur Schals und Tischlaufer.  Bellon's scarves are not worked by starting at the 
top and working down in one long vertical strip.  Instead, the scarf is worked 
in horizontal strips.  I turn my pillow so the horizontal is oriented 
vertically, work the horizontal strip, turn the pillow 90 degrees, work a 
triangular strip that has the effect of sending all the bobbins into a U-turn, 
turn the pillow 90 degrees, and start working a new horizontal strip in the 
opposite direction from the first one.  As the new horizontal strip is worked 
and its edge touches the edge of the old horizontal strip, the new edge is sewn 
into the old edge.

I approach a sewing with fear and loathing and once the whole ugly ordeal is 
over I try to put it behind me and forget it at soon as possible.  I make only 
continuous lace (specifically, point ground) so I only have to sew when I am 
making something like a handkerchief edging and endings have to be sewn into 
beginnings.  SO I was a little worried about doing this scarf.  "But", I tried 
to encourage myself, "this scarf is really really coarse.  Maybe you hate 
sewings because the cursed little 15-footside-per-inch holes are so tiny.  
Maybe it will all be different with this project."

At this point I have completed two horizontal strips, so I have made one 
complete column of sewings, and it is in fact all different!  Hooray!  The 
sewings are a piece of cake.  Moreover, since I can actually see the twists in 
the thread I can finally really see why my sewing book says the sewing eats a 
twist and I need to put in an extra twist after the sewing.  I am happy and I 
am hoping that all this practice sewing in coarse lace will make sewing in fine 
lace easier.  My crotchet hook is too fine for such coarse thread, so when I 
sew I make sure the thread is positioned above the hook and doesn't split on 
the sharp point of the hook, but that it easy to do.

So, having done a full column of sewings, I couldn't help put notice the large, 
obtrusive wall of pins on the left side of my pillow the entire time I was 
working the second horizontal strip.  Having the left side of  my pillow cut 
off from me unpleasantly constrained my working area.  I laid a small piece of 
cloth over the pins so I could throw my bobbins there when I wasn't using them, 
and that worked fine and I had no problem with threads tangling in the pins, 
but when I was crossing and twisting it didn't feel natural to try to scale the 
bobbins over the wall of pins and onto the cloth, so the bobbins I was working 
with were all over to the right side.  Which felt crowded.  Also, the 
tensioning direction was wrong, so after the stitch I kept picking up bobbin 
pairs and pulling them all the way over to the left so that tension was in the 
correct direction, in particular so that cloth stich passives didn't bunch up 
over on the right side of the cloth trail.

By the way, I am working on a flat block pillow and I work in the closed 
English fashion.  I put a towel or something under the pillow so it is a little 
tilted, although honestly I have never noticed much difference between working 
at a slant and working totally flat.

I only work continuous lace.  When I first learned about bobbin lace it never 
even occurred to me to do anything else.  Continuous lace just seemed so 
immediately appealing.  I really love the way the bobbins all draw up out of 
the ground, make a motif, and then vanish back into the ground again.   I like 
thinking of the ground as a great ocean which throws up bobbins to the surface 
and then sinks them down under again. I like the way that making a motif is 
constrained by the bobbins you have available and you have to logically 
organize things so the exact number of bobbins are available when you require 
them.  Such constraint is like poetry.  It is romantic.  Sure, the rules get 
broken and extra bobbins are added to fill in the motif and a gimp occasionally 
is cut off instead of working across the lace to the next place it is needed, 
but overall there is logic in the construction.  So piece lace just never 
looked appealing and I've never tried it.

So, now, here I am, doing a piece lace sort of thing--sewing--and Iseem to 
remember something about pushing down pins so they don't get in the way?  Is 
that what I really need to do to get rid of the wall of pins on my left?   ALL 
the pins?  There are so many!  And then I will have to dig them all up again to 
remove them from the lace!  Instead of pushing them all down, should I remove 
most of the pins when I finish the horizontal strip and just leave in a few 
columns of pins along the edge, pushed down?  How many columns (this is 
torchon)?  I have a pin pusher (I like to push down headside and footside pins 
in point ground) so it won't hurt my fingers.  I think I mi