[lace] Comprehensive list of lace books

[Lorelei Halley]

I forgot to post the last link. This one deals with structural differences
(working methods and thread paths) of different styles of bobbin lace.

http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlace2structuralclasses.html 

 

This one compares laces that look similar, but are very very different in
structure and kind.

http://lynxlace.com/compare.html 

 

A brief overview of lace history.

http://lynxlace.com/bobbinlacehistoryoverview.html 

 

Lorelei

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RE: [lace] Comprehensive list of lace books?

[Lorelei Halley]

Amy
I have several resources set up which should be helpful. First I recommend
Santina Levey's LACE. She has worked out a way to date lace by using sample
books for woven brocades. If a lace is similar in style, with similar
motifs, then the date of the lace may match the brocade's date. She does not
use guesswork, but evidence, to assign dates. Here is a list of links.
http://laceioli.ning.com/group/identification-history  It has a huge list of
resources. Laceioli is free to join, but you have to join before you can
post comments or questions.

This page is very basic. http://lynxlace.com/kindsoflace.html 

I have a large number of pinterest pages, with laces sorted by their
structural type and style, and date (in some cases). I think you have to
have a pinterest account, or you may not be able to see my boards. If you
don't have an account I recommend that you create one, because my pinterest
boards are a vast resource.
https://www.pinterest.com/lynxlacelady/boards/ 

This page has explanations about the structural differences (working methods
and thread paths) that define specific styles of lace.

I realize this list may be overwhelming. But if you seriously look at it,
over a sufficient length of time, you will be able to identify laces.
Lorelei Halleylynxlace.com
http://laceioli.ning.com

Hi all,  I'm newer to the lace world, and am very interested in reading
about its history. I'm also interested in learning how to visually identify
the different types of lace and the time periods they came from. Is there a
"master list" of lace books floating around somewhere that I could access?
Amy

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[lace] Comprehensive list of lace books?

[Amy Mills]

Hi all,

I'm newer to the lace world, and am very interested in reading about its
history. I'm also interested in learning how to visually identify the
different types of lace and the time periods they came from. Is there a
"master list" of lace books floating around somewhere that I could access?
I've found a couple in my obsessive antique shopping, but some guidance
would be lovely.

Thanks,

Amy

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Re: [lace] mangling lace

[Jeri Ames]

Dear Sharon,
Dear Sharon,
Dear Sharon,
 
It would be nice to hear what our current members have to say.  For
additional information, there are 82 memos in the Arachne archives at:
https://www.mail-archive.com/search?q=Mangling+lace=lace%40arachne.com 
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center

In a message dated 5/25/2018 3:19:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rswhite...@shaw.ca writes:

 
 At a recent lace getaway we were fortunate to have a very brief description
on
mangling linen lace How many of you have tried this and what suggestions
would you
pass on about your experience ? Sharon

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[lace] mangling lace

[Rick & Sharon Whiteley]

At a recent lace getaway we were fortunate to have a very brief description on
mangling linen lace. How it improved the appearance and feel of the lace was
remarkable. How many of you have tried this and what suggestions would you
pass on about your experience ?  Sharon

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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker - books

[Devon Thein]

One book that I have found quite fascinating is Three Generations in
the Honiton Lace Trade: A family history by Margaret Tomlinson. It is
about the Chick and Tucker families. Admittedly these people were
"management", but they worked in the lace business and there are a lot
of details about every day life.
Devon

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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker - books

[Jeri Ames]

There has been correspondence about Devon Trolly Lace in the past. Search by
that name at 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/index.html 
 
Once in the archives, if you would like to know more about the subjects
mentioned by Sue T. in Dorset, you can search for information about the
following:
 
The book that best informs about lace belonging to Queen Victoria is Royal
Honiton Lace by Elsie Luxton and Yusai Fukuyama, Batsford, 1988.  Luxton is
known for her books on Honiton Lace.  There is also a booklet by Kay
Staniland and Santina Levey titled Queen Victoria's Wedding Dress and Lace,
published by W. S. Maney & Son Ltd., 1983.
 
Finally, perhaps the best and most enjoyable book to use for research about
Queen Victoria's entire wardrobe is In Royal Fashion - Clothes of Charlotte
and Victoria by Kay Staniland, published by the Museum of London, 1997.  Best
described as a best-friend book.
 
Jeri Ames in Maine USA
Lace and Embroidery Resource Center
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 We went to a Lace Event
since then and were shown samples in a book and other items from that time.
http://www.barbara-fay.com/index.php/en/component/virtuemart/bobbin-lace/devo
n-trolly-lace-patterns-and-lace-for-queen-victoria-detail?Itemid=0
This link will show you a book and give you just a little information 
Sue T  Dorset UK, which is the county next to Devon.

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[lace] Machine lace and its manufacture

[Tess Parrish]

Felkin, William. A History of the Machine-Wrought Hosiery and Lace
Manufacturers, Burt Franklin, New York, 1967, 608 pages. Posted April 18,
2007. SAMPLE PAGE. REVIEW. Part 1: File size 10.1 MB PDF. Part 2: File size
12.5 MB PDF. Part 3: File size 11.9 MB PDF.

This can be found on the “Arizona”
site:(http://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/lace.html) under Lace and
Books.

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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

[Sue]

After I sent the email about lace maker and farming I clicked on a link and 
found this.  After the chats about the recent royal wedding (and knowing 
there is another much quieter royal wedding coming up later this year.  ( 
One of the Duke of Yorks daughters).
This link will take you to some interesting stuff about Devon and wedding 
fashions of the 1800 including lace and silk.



https://www.rammuseum.org.uk/wedding-fashions-at-the-county-show/

Sue T
Dorset UK

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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

[Sue]

My husbands g,  g, g, grandmother (I think I have enough greats, born in 
1816) was shown in the census as a lace maker as was her sister and her 
mother I think!  After she married that changed over the years to 
Agricultural worker and her and her husband appear to have worked on a named 
estate.   But their daughters were then listed as lace makers.


In this country most farm labourers was not well paid and mostly the same as 
lace makers.  Queen Victoria organised to have lace made for her Wedding 
Gown and then a Christening gown to help the women of the area around 
Honiton and districts close to there in Devon, UK.  We went to a Lace Event 
since then and were shown samples in a book and other items from that time.

http://www.barbara-fay.com/index.php/en/component/virtuemart/bobbin-lace/devon-trolly-lace-patterns-and-lace-for-queen-victoria-detail?Itemid=0
This link will show you a book and give you just a little information about 
what I am saying here.
I think the added skill might well have made the girls a better catch, 
because they could make lace, while looking after their children, to bring 
in some extra money when times were tough for the farming.

Sue T
Dorset UK, which is the county next to Devon.


My great, great grandmother was a lacemaker; on the 1861 census she was
aged 20 and her trade was described thus - 'Farm labourer's daughter'. I
always thought this was because her parents were trying to make her look
like a good catch (i.e. 'our daughter doesn't have to work we have the
funds to keep her') but now I am wondering whether they were actually
trying to pretend she was not a drug addled whore.

I suppose that's better than the acquitted murderer allegedly on my
maternal side!

On 25 May 2018 at 13:30, Devon Thein  wrote:


One concept that I seem to have gleaned from my reading is that the
lacemakers in England did well during the Napoleonic Wars because
trade with the continent was cut off. Then after the Napoleonic Wars
things became much worse for them. Perhaps their number swelled during
the period when people had to buy English lace. After the wars the
English were able to buy European lace which they preferred.
Devon


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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

[Elena Kanagy-Loux]

I agree with your assessment Marianne and thank you for the eloquent reply.
In my research it seems opioid use was more of a a 19th-century phenomenon
when factory work was displacing lacemakers and increasing hardships. And
these stereotypes are generally overblown - it'd be interesting to dig
deeper into medical records perhaps to see if any statistics could be
sussed out, but it's unlikely.
-Elena

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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

[Marianne Gallant]

Don't equate the use of opiods back then with the current street drug 
problem in NA. Back in those days laudanum was easily available, often 
without a prescription,but technically was a diluted form of opium. A 
lot of people, specially women, used that stuff a lot, not just poor 
people, but also well to do ladies. Doctors often prescribed it for what 
they considered 'mental health issues', but it was also used a lot to 
lessen the impact of what we would now consider 'slavery' of a lot of 
women, since even well to do women were considered chattel that was 
owned by the men, and they had to submit to their demands and rules.
And yes, it was often given to babies when they were 'fractious', or 
teething, or were colicky.

*Marianne*

Marianne Gallant
Vernon, BC Canada
m...@shaw.ca
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On 2018-05-25 6:12 AM, Karen Bovard wrote:
> Interesting, Elenadid the lacemakers use opiods because their plight was
> so dismal or because they had excess money to use for recreational drugs?Â
> Just curious.
> Karen Bovard SayreThe ShuttleSmithOmaha,
> Nebraskahttp://www.TheShuttleSmith.com
>

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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

[Clare Lewis]

My great, great grandmother was a lacemaker; on the 1861 census she was
aged 20 and her trade was described thus - 'Farm labourer's daughter'. I
always thought this was because her parents were trying to make her look
like a good catch (i.e. 'our daughter doesn't have to work we have the
funds to keep her') but now I am wondering whether they were actually
trying to pretend she was not a drug addled whore.

I suppose that's better than the acquitted murderer allegedly on my
maternal side!

On 25 May 2018 at 13:30, Devon Thein  wrote:

> One concept that I seem to have gleaned from my reading is that the
> lacemakers in England did well during the Napoleonic Wars because
> trade with the continent was cut off. Then after the Napoleonic Wars
> things became much worse for them. Perhaps their number swelled during
> the period when people had to buy English lace. After the wars the
> English were able to buy European lace which they preferred.
> Devon
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Re: [lace] The archetype of the lacemaker

[Devon Thein]

One concept that I seem to have gleaned from my reading is that the
lacemakers in England did well during the Napoleonic Wars because
trade with the continent was cut off. Then after the Napoleonic Wars
things became much worse for them. Perhaps their number swelled during
the period when people had to buy English lace. After the wars the
English were able to buy European lace which they preferred.
Devon

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