Re: [lace] Museums and Copyright. (RAMM, Exeter)

2020-04-16 Thread Pierre Fouché
Dear Brian

I am no expert in copyright but am very interested in the subject. Common
sense tells me that the museum can only copyright photographs of objects in
their collection that they took/commissioned themselves, and not the
historical objects themselves that are clearly in the public domain.

Paid access to the objects could be substantiated in the specialised labour
involved in preparing the objects for viewing, and the expense of their
conservation in general, so a minimal fee seems fair.

You can obviously manipulate your own images in any way you wish, (
although academic/journalism ethics apply to your situation which you
acknowledge, so it is not clear why the Museum mentions that at all. I
might be misinterpreting one paragraph. As a matter of interest. What do
you mean exactly here?:

"They claim that my flattening of an image is "Manipulation". It is not, I
just print say 5 images very close together, then the bobbin looks flat. I
rarely if ever make any changes to an image."

I empathize with your situation. How awful to have a prime subject of your
curiosity willfully inaccessible when your intentions are clearly for the
greater good!

Best

Pierre

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[lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2020-04-16 Thread Karisse Moore
I have made the mat in white thread. Here are my answers to your questions.
1. I was putting in and taking out pairs of bobbins all along the way so I
didn't get a whole number count for the number of bobbins used in all. It will
also depend on the size of thread you use and the tension on your cloth stitch
areas how many threads you want. Also the size of thread will make a
difference in the number of bobbins. Thicker thread will take less bobbins and
thinner thread more. Depends on what you are used to or what you like.


2.
When it comes to thread you do have a choice of colors now, materials such as
linen, cotton, and silk. If you use linen then the mat will be firmer, Cotton
not as firm, and silk will be very soft. Depends on what you like. And of
course there are all sorts of sizes of threads.


3. Once again on the gimp
bobbins you will be taking the gimps in and out. There will not be one line of
gimp that goes all the way through the whole piece.


4. My advice is to get
Alexander Stillwell's book on Floral Bucks Point Lace and read it from cover
to cover. Her other book called Geometrical Bucks Point Lace is also a good
resource. There are many good books to find ways to solve the problems Miss
Channer's mat will present you. See it as a puzzle and if one technique does
not produce the look you want then try another.  


That my two bits on Miss
Channer's mat.


Karisse Moore
Now in Mt. Vernon, Washington 

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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2020-04-16 Thread Malvary Cole
I had a look back in Arachne Lace Archives and there are several (many) 
references to this subject.


One item says - 200+ pairs of bobbins.

Another, and this is copied and quoted from 2004 "Drum roll! After 2 years, 
9 months Over 1000 hours 500+ bobbins More pins than you can shake a stick 
at! On Monday, March 1st,10:30 P.M. I finished Miss Channers Mat. Does 
anyone else go thru post-partum depression after a big project?


So before you start, make sure you have enough bobbins.

Malvary in Ottawa where it isn't bad to be house-bound because it has been 
snowing again today. 


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Re: [lace] Miss Channer's Mat

2020-04-16 Thread Alice Howell
I had my notes on the Mat all written up, and ... poof.gone.  I'll try to 
recap it.

Bobbins.  The story I heard was 500 bobbins.  I wound 270 pair (540).  I used 
them all, since they were wound.  Some more than once.  I like fairly solid 
cloth stitch so added in lots and had to throw them out when I came to the 
ground sections.  I wound about a yard on each one.  Sometimes I used only an 
inch of thread.  After going through the wound bobbins, I just tied two threads 
together and wound the knot down to a bobbin.  I wouldn't have needed all the 
bobbins since a lot of the spent their time in a box.The most I had on the 
pillow at one time was about 300 on the widest center section. Probably 
around 400 would be adequate for the project.

Gimp.   I don't remember.  Maybe 6-8 pair, but I had extra bobbins and lots of 
gimp thread on hand, and wound up more as needed. Some of them were used only a 
short time, but lots of gimp trails went quite a ways.  I tried to use 
continuous gimps which often required gimp loops.  If you use loops instead of 
lots of short gimps, wind plenty on your bobbins. Have plenty of gimp thread on 
hand.  It uses a lot.

Thread.  The sample on the pattern papers was made in cotton 100.  I thought it 
looked a bit skimpy so I used 70, which I had a lot on hand.  I would suggest 
80 for a nice but still dainty product.  It's only a tad thicker than the 70.

Pattern error.  There are four large flowers around the center section.  One of 
the side ones has a gimp line error.  Note that there are petals curving up 
both sides of the flower middle.  The gimp should follow the edge of the 
petals.  On one flower, the gimp lines cross where the petals are closest 
together.  You may want to redraw the lines to match the other 3 flowers.

Use a large pillow.  You need space at each side to hold the bobbins.  I used 
Midlands and had knitting stitch holders that went through the spangles to herd 
the bobbins in order.  The filled holders were stacked on each side of my 
pillow.  I used long stick pins to keep the stacks from sliding around.

(I had a wide roller pillow with a 14 inch roller that I used.  I had nice wide 
areas at each end of the roller to stack bobbins.)

Yes, David did his Mat in black.  I saw his when he was visiting here in the 
USA a couple years ago.  He used black silk but shrank the pattern a bit to fit 
his thread.  Black is hard to work with.  I don't recommend it on this project 
unless you want a really hard challenge.

I also suggest working the pattern 'from the back'.  There are some flowers or 
motifs with tallies on top.  It is easier to work if you do the tallies first, 
then do the half stitch on top of them.  This makes the 'front' of the pattern 
be facing down.  If there weren't any tallies, there would be no front or back 
to the Mat.  I forgot this suggestion and worked the tallies on top.  That's 
much harder.  Next time maybe I'll remember.

Just take the pattern a half square inch at a time.  It's all basic flower 
Bucks techniques.  Have patience.  It takes a while to work through the whole 
pattern, but very pretty when done.

I did my Mat in 400 hours.  It may feel like 1000 but isn't quite.

Alice in Oregon -- where the sun is shining but it's not yet really warm, and I 
spend my days in my house and yard.  Getting many little chores done, and 
working on craft projects.




On Thursday, April 16, 2020, 11:11:08 AM PDT, Malvary Cole 
 wrote: 





I had a look back in Arachne Lace Archives and there are several (many) 
references to this subject.

One item says - 200+ pairs of bobbins.

Another, and this is copied and quoted from 2004 "Drum roll! After 2 years, 
9 months Over 1000 hours 500+ bobbins More pins than you can shake a stick 
at! On Monday, March 1st,10:30 P.M. I finished Miss Channers Mat. Does 
anyone else go thru post-partum depression after a big project?

So before you start, make sure you have enough bobbins.

Malvary in Ottawa where it isn't bad to be house-bound because it has been 
snowing again today. 

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