[lace] indeed I did not mean Fiberglass
Sorry for the delay, when I did not saw it coming I realized I did not reply to all Jo When we lived in England, I learned that glass curtains were only the sheer fabric that were hung over glass windows. I think perhaps that is what Jo referred to rather than Fiberglass curtains. They were usually made of rayon, nylon or sheer cotton. If this is what Jo means, that would make an excellent pillow cover. Am I corrent, jo? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Clews
Clew Likewise, this word comes from an Anglo-Saxon original, and it always seems to have meant rolled into a ball: not just of yarn, but a ball of anything In Dutch we have a word written differently. I only recognized the similarity in sound when I read the description above. Usually we use the word 'kluwen' for yarns, but it is always an unorderly ball. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] terminology
Dear Spiders My question might look a bit weird but perhaps together you are inventive. I have this rather technical diagram with a tree in the centre: http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/class-diagrams2.gif Please stay with me, I don't expect you to understand the full technical implications of this diagram, but you will recognise familiar terms at the bottom of the tree: pin, stitch, cross, twist and diagram. You can ignore the loose blocks at both sides, my question is about the tree in the middle, even just about the bold face words in the top of the boxes. These words lack spaces, they have capitals where a new word starts, that is a programming convention. May be you can help me for better terminology for the rest of the tree. Though I'm working for years with this diagram I'm still mixing up some of the terms I chose, so I hope there are better alternatives, the shorter the words the better. Some hints to help understand the purpose of the tree: You can divide and subdivide a diagram in various types of sections/partitions with different an similar properties. As opposed to a section with just a pin, we have sections that do represent threads, so that is why I picked MutlipleThreadsPartions. A cross and twist are about a single pair, so these form a group oppesed to partitions that are about multiplre pairs such as stitches. A group is typically something like a spider, snowflake or a cloth-stitch motif in flanders or binche. Don't we have a better word than just a group? And do we have a word that can mean both stitch and group? In a colorcoded diagram a stitch is represented as one cross in one color (if we forget the twistmarks). What I called a ChainedPairsPartition consitst of multiple crosses that might or might not have differet colors. Where a ChainedPairsPartition contains more than one cross, a MultiplePairsPartition can be one or more. Writing this: I have one (a stitch), more (chained), one or more (multiple); not very logical. Clear as mud? Please reply to the group as the fantasy or questions of one can trigger the fantasy or knowledge of another. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] terminology
A class diagram! How cool! I work with them but have never seen them used for bobbin lace. Avital If you happen to use them for Java development, you could consider joining my project at http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Re: Flowers and stiffner
When I used the other wire which is 24 gauge, I wound it around a bobbin which is obviously a huge part of the kinking problem When winding your bobbins, rotate the bobbin around it own axis. Don't let the bobbin make circles aound the fingers that guide the thread. Better for threads too, they could either wrinkle or untwist, the latter cause breking. Many lacemakers also use hairdressing butterfly clams instead of the slipping knot. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Selling lace (was 18 doilies)
I once had had a much less complicated conversation. I was lacing during my holliday in a hotel lobby on a miniature version of Carols Milenese spider. A big version I made previously served as a reference. An interesting staff member took notice Q: could you make me a ...? A: how much are you willing to pay me per hour? Q: how much time does it take? I did not know how much time the spider took me but I knew that some Rosaline coasters of 7 cm in diameter took me about 40 hours each. The coasters were made with a thread weight closer to the big spider than the small spider. She understood and did not ask any further. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Set of 18 8 Doyleys - Fine Lace ....
by Margot Walker Bev may be thinking of: http://www.powerofhandsfoundation.co.uk/ Or http://www.folkartsrilanka.org/PhotoGallery/zphoto.2007-03-13.5391245212/zph oto_view Tsunami recovery assistance http://www.responsibletourismsrilanka.org/whats_new.html http://www.craftrevival.org/Artisans/003542.htm Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)
Dear spiders On English list I usually sign with Jo, but my full first name is Joke (the Dutch female version of Johny). I'm looking for expressions with the joker in a deck of cards. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)
I'm more looking especially for something like betting on the joker, or put the joker into play. A dutch expression also used to double you points in a tele-quiz. Jo -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: bev walker [mailto:walker.b...@gmail.com] Verzonden: donderdag 10 september 2009 19:12 Aan: J. Falkink CC: lace@arachne.com Onderwerp: Re: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker) You might like The joker is wild. In cards, a wild card is one that can have any value. I believe your name is pronounced with the 'e' - in English 'yo-key' (or do you pronounce the 'j' as a soft g sound). Lace content: we have 'wild lace' too, a chaotic but organized style. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, J. Falkink yhgr@xs4all.nl wrote: Dear spiders On English list I usually sign with Jo, but my full first name is Joke (the Dutch female version of Johny). I'm looking for expressions with the joker in a deck of cards. Jo - -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] OT question (about my first name/Joker)
In game shows, the expression play the joker is used in the way you describe. Thanks, I gueas that is what I was looking for, sorry for the detour. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] lace fence
if you have to ask you can't aford... On http://archrecord.construction.com/products/potm/ It sais: The company currently produces a minimum of 2,700 square feet of fencing per month in costs ranging from $17 to $30 per square foot. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] USA
the abay nr is ebay nr 110428639339 I'm not an expert, so just my two cents: Could it be the gimps and seam are hand handembroidered? Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] threads - sizes and plies
But... the 60 is a definition of the size of each ply... so 60/2 is 1/3 smaller than 60/3. 1/3 smaller in weight per length indeed. The difference in diameter is smaller. To skip the mathematics: try for yourself with a set of pearls an sqeeze them in a circle. Take out a third to represent the third ply. You will see the circle shrinks with less than a third. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] The Beginning of the End
I think it might be better described as the beginning determined by how we're going to do the end This description indeed tells better what the book is about. But Ulrike allways chooses titles with a ;-) The beginning of the end is in Dutch (so I suppose in het native tongue Greman too) a standard saying when somethig prosperous/sucsesful is showing the first signs of unavoidable decay. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] French site of rosanna
Anny body who knows what happend with the site of Rosanna? The link below shows a partially arhcived version. http://web.archive.org/web/20071124034203/http://www.dentellieres.com/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Odd request-value of lace bobbins
This advise sounds like king Solomon To be totally honest, if your husband thinks your bobbin collection is worth $10,000, I think you should insist that he take it as part of the marital settlement, it is the best offer that you are going to get for it. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Another fence by joep
I tried to capture one or two screenshots, but it is somehow tecnically protected. The old fence is one on http://www.demakersvan.com/ but imagine it in front of some 10-story building, like http://207.44.228.232/photopost/data//2/5Couwenhoven_flat_20.jpg By the way, wouldn't it be an idea with thinner wire to make bird cages or doors of rabit houses? Jo, I get only the message that Safari can't find the side. Have any idea what to do? Ilske - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Another fence by joep
About 3/4 of the program http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=9256088 It's Dutch but the video controlls speak for themselfs. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Describe bobbin lace
My mantra usually sounds something like: You can make it as simple and complesx as you want. Not as poetic as the sudoku. Last time I demo'd I did some flanders myself as a (relatively) complex version, and had a 3-pair try-it-your-self fish as a simple version. Teenagers loved the fish. Adults were too shy to try. I gues next time I should use a bead for the eye rather than a picot in the twisted runner. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Wild Ground
The Germans call it schwammgrund, a schwam is a sponge. It is a repeating ct/ctct. I don't remember links to the final effect. It can be quite different depending on the density. http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/chaos.gif The program you can find on http://bw-en.wikispaces.com/ It is still under construction (among others slow), try examples braid1, and replace every other stitch with a tctc or whatever variation you want to try. Jo I am fascinated by the development of 'wild grounds', but can't seem to find much in the way of documentation. Can anyone give me a clue? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Miss Channer receives a Proposal
I guess much depends on how exact you want your bobbins to stay in order, or don't mind to untwist a few. On the details of the congne page you see how they don't mind too much. I saw them working this way. They just touch the bobbins looking at their work to see which thread moves and thus know which bobbin to pick out of the pile. http://www.dentellieres.com/Musee/Cogne/cogne2.htm On this page you see how the ground consists of tctctc in stead of tc-pin-tc. Clever improvement to avoid timeconsuming placing of pins. http://www.dentellieres.com/Musee/Cogne/cogne1-det3.htm The last tc they throw their bobbins, you see the hand moving on the picture linked below. Though it does not catch a flying bobbin, the shot is taken quite clever. http://www.dentellieres.com/Musee/Cogne/cogne2-det3.htm I didn't wait to see how they started a new row, my italian and their french/english/german/dutch was too bad to ask. Now that I'm writing it down, on a flat pillow you would have to shift the whole pile from one side to the other. But with their touchy method you just pick the apropriate bobbins under the pile. Now I understand the large bulbs are not only better for throwing, but also for finding the bobbins by their bottoms. I guess this method does not allow hundreths of bobbins. For flanders lace someone suggested to make smal plaits to fix the motives when finishing another part. You would have to undo that when continuing. Why bother a few more unintended twist by piling when you have to undo a little anyhow? That makes the method below a little easier. Jo My favorite system (which I have not come even *close* to mastering...) is when those huge 12 pins are used to scoop up 6 - 8 bobbins at a time and stack them vertically in front of another set... Just an amazing sight to see... - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] or these instructions?
Reminds me how I started. Closely observing a lady in a street fair I had something like this in mind and tried at home. Next action: to the library for a book with instructions. Onderwerp: [lace] or these instructions? http://www.essortment.com/articles/make-handmade-lace_6501.htm - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] IOLI web back
But www.tat-man.net not yet? - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lacemakers map out of order?
The bouncing is another problem, I'll look into that. Thanks for the info. The problem I feared was about new entries. It appears to be no problem at all. Jo Falkink developper of the map page owned by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map I've just tried to remove myself from the map as per instructions but the email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bounced straight back to me - so maybe ther is a problem there Annette in Trentham, Australia - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Koevoet(je)
example of a koevoetje http://www.scharlaeken.be/cms_images/12473_CI1.jpg Without the 'je' it becomes a big heavy burglars tool Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lacemakers map out of order?
The last three weeks there were no new entries on the lacemakers map. It has never been so quiet while it never has been so busy the weeks before, so somehow I fear it is broken. I tried it for my self but I still seem to be able to add a new entry. Could somebody else try? Jo Falkink developper of the map page owned by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lacemakers map out of order?
No problem. As a moderator I deleted the duplicate. I just added myself Jo, trouble is I seem to be there twice! jenny barron Scotland - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] RXP User Group
And the forum is added to the overview of lace design software: http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html Jo Ian has now set up the forum for RXP owners. If you'd like to join up, go to www.lacerxp.com/forum and sign up. ... Ruth - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Schamm-schwamm (was: Wilder ground)
Sorry spiders, I made a typo: the book reads Schwamm. And Tamara's dictionary proved my German is a bit rusty. Jo a sponge is a Schwamm in German Schlamm is in English as Sue mentioned mould - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Wilder ground
The ground is also in Viele Gute Gruende III, almost in the back: D4.1 she calls it Schammgrund. It looks quite regular. Some other eamples http://www.lokk.nl/kbarchief/kb12007/kb1a02%20met%20kleur.jpg http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/GrannyLaurin/omenominkoperkleur.jpg Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Wilder ground
calls it Schammgrund What does Schwamm- mean. Schwamm is close to a dutch word for muschroom, or perheaps what grows on fruit and vegetables when you keep it too long. I'm too lazy to get a dictionary. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] As the author intended
But certainly first time around I'd like to make the patterns as the author intended There are different types of authors. On one extreme you have those who are almost religious in doing things the traditional way. Other authors rather think have fun and only give the details because they know many lacemakers get nervous because when they don't have exact details. But they would rather just inspire. So usually you can't tell from a book or pattern what the intentions of the author are. For the second type I'me 100% sure about Sebastiana van den Herik, 95% sure about Corrie v.d. Sluis and 90% about sure about Julie v.d. Wolf. All three are definitly not lace police types. But I'm 70% sure there are also 's Gravenmoers designers of the first type, but these I don't know personaly. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Gravenmoerse - translation please
right side? rechte is right (as opposed to left). Rechte rand is 'straight edge', opposed to 'left side' it would be rechteR KANT. Kant is both lace and side ;-) (and a philosofer, so have fun when googeling) From the linguistic/etimology point of view: knipschaar is a funny word: schaar is a pair of scissors and knippen is the action you perform with the pair of scissors, in contemporary Dutch it is not combined in a word. In this context it is indeed the name for a type of motif. linnenslag is indeed cloth stitch: ctc Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Variegated thread
Perhaps even more accurate: copy the pricking slightly larger and sling the worker around its pins. Jo So, hot tip for using variegated thread - wrap the thread around various widths of card to test the limits of the colour sequence. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] lace rose
If I'm not mistaken the thread is about the following page http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinlace/Schneeburg_flower.html And I found page 104 in de techniek van het kantklossen van Anelie van Olffen http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/tmp.png Jo According to the pattern I have, it is a desigh by Mira Kezar. As this lady is living in Slovenia, I think the pattern is not Schneeberg, but Idrija.. Ank - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Glossary (was: Torchon vocabulary)
Maybe add the names to http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQ Achim, would it be possible to add pictures or links to pictures Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Spiral (self-threading) Needles The Gift of Time
I'm afraid all these solutions are for the thicker needles while the thinner needles cause the most trouble. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: [bobbinlace] pattern ID
It is on page 164 of the folowing book http://www.librarything.nl/work/4002857 I suppose it is from the author see it here on my blog: http://www.tat-man.net/blog I had downloaded the pic a long time ago and don't recall where it came from. If any of you know the creator, I would appreciate you letting me know so that I can credit it. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Looking for lacemaker in Slovenia
You can find 2 on the lacemakers map of our lacefairy http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map Jo http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/eval-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Ground generator
Hello spiders At last some visible changes in my free program for working diagrams. It generates a few more grounds and should be easier to launch/install. You can find the program and everything about it when you start at http://bw-en.wikispaces.com/ Unfortunately it still takes a few seconds to generate a diagram and the thread tension is also still poor. But how much time would it take you to draw a variant on a ground by hand? Have fun with it and I'm looking forward to feedback. Joke - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: [lace] Unicorn in Russian lace - book by José va n Pamelen-H.
I started the first band forming the head/face of the unicorn and got stuck at the nose. How do I have to work the relief? Does anybody know the pattern? I could scan it if this helps. I forwarded your request to http://www.librarything.com/talktopic.php?topic=33270 I hope one of the two who own the book will react. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Re: Lacemakers on Malta
Are there any arachne members, lacemakers on Malta? Don't know whether they are on Arachne but http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map/ has 4 entries, one with an e-mail address Jo http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/eval-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Oops RE: Japanese lace sites
I read on Arachne that you added some Japanese sites to http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linknew-EN.html but I can't find them there. Could you please tell me where I can find them? Thanks for telling, I forgot one step in the update sequence. Should be ok now. Scroll down a little to the unreadable links. The menu on the left hs a similar strukture with earlier found bobbin lace links. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Larkrise to Candleford on webshots
Hummm - the homepage doesn't recognize the password - honiton. Any suggestions? http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003-date - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Census / Japan
I skimmed the first 10 pages of googling with bobbin lace site:.jp and added the most interesting to http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linknew-EN.html It is still an unorganised mess Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Graphical design for lace software
Hello Spiders I'm developing open source software for bobbin lace makers. To keep this message short you can read all about it on http://bw-en.wikispaces.com/ open source means you don't need to wait for me for improvements. You can do it yourself or ask someone else and share the result with the world. As I don't have a talent for graphics I have a specific request. While the program is loading, it shows a splash screen. Is there someone among us who can create an attractive (but compact in terms of KB) animated gif? You can find the current too big yet dull version at http://bobbinwork.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/nl/BobbinWork/viewer/gui/spla sh.gif For the suspicious among you: google has as little to do with the program as majordomo has to do with the content of our messages: they are both just hosts/providers allowing us to share our scribles. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace makers census
The Dutch lace association had 3000 members a few years ago. The magazine is translated into English, so there might be some duplicates with the Catalan, but my guess 10.000 is a way too low guestimate. I can say that they exist at least 5000 lacemakers, only here in my area of Catalunya (Spain). Possibly the number raises up to 10.000 lacemakers, all the country (Spain) (I have not evidence of this, this is only a supposition) So, it is not a nonsense to speak of tens of thousands all over the world! Carolina.Barcelona. Spain. bevw escribió: Hi Miriam and everyone I think you can safely say 'thousands' of lacemakers throughout the world - not 'tens' of thousands, but 'thousands' should cover it. There are about 500 in Canada, by my guesstimate, but let's say a thousand counting anyone who could possibly have tried bobbin lace. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Errata (was: Mat pricking)
Being just a happy user I would recommend LibraryThing to register errata and other details about (lace) books. The site lets you link messages to books and the other way arround. See for example http://www.librarything.com/work/1190846/conversations http://www.librarything.com/talktopic.php?topic=19113 If every spider would just catalog a handfull of books not yet catalogued by someone else, and tag these books with lace, bobbin lace, tatting or whatever is apropriate... We would get a giant bibliogragpy on lacebooks. With easy access to anything any of us has to tell about these books. Other advantages of the site: - Creating an account is as easy as siging in, no questions asked, not even an email address - If you catalog all you books and follow group discussions, the system signals for you wether you have the book in discussion. So you can see at a glance you might be able to answer questions. A disadvantage: to catalog more than 200 books you'll have to pay a fee. I've been working on the pattern 'Manuela' from the book Ristnippu by the Lace Study Group Manuela. I ran into a snag when I arrived at the '11:00 o'clock' scallop on page 8 - I took it back three times and finally counted dots - the pricking has one too many dots! I'll be prepared for the next time I come to it :) I just thought this might save someone else some trouble. Jane in Owen Sound Ontario - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: lacemaking helpers
Don't overlook a detail: I used it on a bolster pillow, not on a flat one http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html But if anyone also sees its use on a flat pillow I'd be curious. Jo wrote: scrapbook spines to keep the bobbins in a row What a smart idea! I will try the scrapbook spine this afternoon. I am working on my Withof pianorunner and for the keys I need lots of bobbins! Anneke Reijs - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Re: lacemaking helpers
I use drinking straws to protect the thread on the bobbins, and scrapbook spines to keep the bobbins in a row on a bolster. Demonstrated at http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] OIDFA Congress -- not
blow: the hotel I wanted to stay in for the Congress itself was uavailable (fully booked, I guess) and the only Don't focus on Groningen. Heerenveen, Leeuwarden are not farther away from the course centre. Or rent a cottage in a cetre park with a few friends. You are used to much longer distances than we are, rent a car and take a low budget hotel a litle farther away. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Tonder
Last summer I spent a full (rainy) day in Tonder and Mogel Tonder (with a pitoresque main street, church and more). Lacewise there is the dependance of the museum in Tonder with a permanent and a changing exhibition. I also visited open air museums (free of charge) with lace classrooms: Odense cottage 7 (on the centre island of Denmark) and Kopenhagen (we could hardly find it) cottage 33. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] New lacemaker
Is there anyone out there that might know of a teacher or group for her? She lives in Spearfish, South Dakota. Not much on the lacemakers map in that area :-( Jo Falkink developper of the map page owned by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linknew-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Lace terms spread sheet
Spiders It appeared that the public version of the lace Glossary (the one that should visible without a google account) didn't reflect the latest updates. I tried to fix that. It is available in the following formats: HTML (to view online) http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQ Text with tabs (for those who whant to copy it into a spread sheet) http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQoutput=txtgi d=0 CSV http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQoutput=csvgi d=0 PDF http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pqBZkXTYrukMmT23E8JxQVQoutput=pdf RSS http://spreadsheets.google.com/feeds/list/o04880260658704422568.614758604926 2309158/od6/public/basic?alt=rss Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] promise
Hello Spiders Some days ago I promised to be busy with something more interesting. I took me several weeks of research, rework and other preparations. But at last the BobbinWork project is published as open source software. That means further development no longer depends solely on my spare time and good health. You can ask everyone with the proper skills to contribute bits and pieces, or you can do it yourself. More details on http://bw-en.wikispaces.com/ Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Lace glossary (Google Docs)
Achim, I wonder if it is a good idea that anyone who signs in to Google can edit this spreadsheet. Esther If you are not on Arachne you've missed I started it as a wiki a few days ago. No I'm lying, I started it the first of August 2006 as a database in the yahoo group bobbinlace. I'm glad this time so many start contributing. I suppuse *because* access and changing is so easy. May be we should spread the news in other lace groups in other languages too. Old revisions are preserved so vandalism and accidents are easily reverted. Though vandalism may be subtle to recognise, the wiki had an easy compare of revisions, I don't know how that works with the spreadsheet. If vanadlism becomes too frequent, I suppose Achim can moderate somehow (weer eens een ander om zand te happen ;-). Thank you Achim for taking over, and having the nerve to try something new. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] A few German terms?
Jo, could you go in and add indications of which words are the verbs and which are the nouns. I could, but I don't, you can do it yourself. Not to be unfriendly but I'm preparing even greater things. The more people co-operatively work on a wiki, the better it becomes. I laid the foundation, it is up to all spiders to build the house. Please also look at the discussion tabs of the wiki pages. Though wiki's are meant to be easy also look at the help pages. By the way: Any volunteers for organiser powers? Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Myth or Mystery CD
CorelDraw indeed has its own format. I guess the Lace Guild should be able to help you, they should open the photographs one by one and then sava them as jpg. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] A few German terms?
and hope that anyone replying to Amanda's email will post to Arachne as well so that I can store the translations away for future reference. I just created http://laceglossary.wikispaces.com/ Anyone can improve it, rearrange, add language, split or combine lines. You don't need to join it unless you want to make changes and hide your IP adress. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] A few German terms?
First thing - German Ganzschlag is a cloth stitch and twist, I feel twisted stitch doesn't describe it enough in English. Our old bugbear of the difference between cloth, linen, etc. Is it ok for me to change this? Kind regards, Noelene in Cooma Again the answer is on http://laceglossary.wikispaces.com/message/list/home - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Steel lace / dirt works
www.callane.com - dirts works Remind me of old Dutch habits. Created on Saturday evenings to prepare for Sunday. Never seen it life though. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Nativity Scene
The website is not of the the lacemaker, but of someone who photographed the lace. Type a few letters of Montse in the search field of the buddymap and you can contact the photographer. Jo Falkink developper of the map page owned by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/eval-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: Nativity lace pattern
Hello Pat My apologies for writing to you directly, but I could not figure out the email address of the lace-digest group. There is no lace-digest group. If you recieved the original message you could have just replied to all to get to lace@arachne.com If the message got to you through a detour, you'd better follow the instructions on http://lace.lacefairy.com/Gallery/Arachne.html The nativity piece that you shared.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/encajebolillos/sets/72157601905812519/ .is wonderful. Have you ever seen this pattern? If you could tell me how to write to the digest, I would like to ask others if they know of the pattern. The spanish caption seems to say the piece was spotted in the Vamberk museum. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[no subject]
Hello Spiders This weekend I managed to get the map working on some mechanicaly translated versions. You can select a language in the right upper corner of the page and fetch the url from your browser for your friends. The update allready works for google translations, it might take weeks or months until yahoo notices the update. Of course mechanical translations can be horible. I also found the time to drool over the links I had not yet collected on my site. This nativity scene is loveley http://www.flickr.com/photos/encajebolillos/sets/72157601905812519/ Jo Falkink developper of the map page owned by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linknew-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Buddy Map- Jo Falkirk
Hello Jo, Please would you take me off the Buddy Map, many thanks, I don't want to interfere with moderator tasks/opinions of Lori. Please see the instructions on the map page. Jo *Not* the Lacefary, just the developper of the map page http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/eval-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Buddy map / privacy
When I put myself on the map, I wasn't aware that it was linked to the Google maps. If I had been, I wouldn't have put myself on it. The personal data is in fact less visible by Google than on ordinary pages. To explain I need to become quite technical. The list with personal information is encoded in scripts. Search engines scan the text portions of the HTML pages, not the scripts. Proof: look for lacemakers of the world guestbook check out the cache and you'll see an empty list. The current implementation even better hides the list from search engines than previously on buddymapping.com Proof: drop guestbook from the search and check the cache for buddymapping, the list with members does appear. The functions to present the data on the right spot on the map are executed by browsers on PCs, not by a Google server. Proof: tell your browser to work off line, you only get messages we don't have maps at this zoom level for this region as the maps are retrieved from the google server, but the bubbles still appear. This offline experiment unearthes another bug though )-: I might have solved the bug that obstructed the mailto links for Internet Explorer completely, when working offline the email address of the wrong person is shown. It should show none, not because the google server can't be reached, but because the server of the lacefairy website too can't be reached. Jo for map matters the tecnical assistant of the Lacefairy http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map/ http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Buddy map: another bug solved
Sorry folks, by solving the IE-mailto bug, I destroyed adding new entries. It should be solved again. I hope I didn't overlook something else again. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] RE: Buddy Map
That part wasn't broke (the add requests are processed automatically, that got broke and repaired), and don't confuse me with the Lacefairy who gets the delete request and honours them maually. I'm the developper of the current map, Lori is the owner and moderator. Jo After reading your mail about messages not getting through to yu, I have just checked up the map, and see that my message was received, and that you have corrected my double entry. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] New buddy map / mailto on MS-IE
Hello spiders I installed a quick-and-dirty solution for the MS-IE mailto problem. The dirty aspect you'll notice by the needles empty page that comes along with popping up a new e-mail. But at least it works now. Thank you all for your patiente. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Buddy map
You can't edit, but re-enter and follow the instructions, that is: drag the green marker to the correct position. Then click the 'report abuse or mistake' in the old bubble and convince the moderator to delete the old entry (as I mailed on Arachne before, at least I intended to). I suppose the safari oops will be solved together with the MS-IE solution I just announced. On the old buddy map I positioned myself fairly accurately (wrong side of the road though) using the postcode, but there doesn't seem to be a way of editing this on the new system - or have I missed something? BTW, The email doesn't work properly with Safari, it just puts oops into the address line instead of the email address. Brenda On 11 Dec 2007, at 09:03, Jean Nathan wrote: Is there a way of positioning yourself correctly in the right area of a town on the satellite map, where I can zoom in on my house? The buddy map doesn't seem to take notice of postcodes to position a location marker. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Buddy map
Please do read everything below the map. I wrote it for that purpose, but if its clear as mud please explain what needs more explanation. After all English is not my native tongue. Fill in the form between the map and the horizontal line, hit the go to step 2 button and continue to read all instructions. What green marker? There's a purple one where it thinks I am, and red ones appear when they think they will, but nothing green. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Buddy map
Sorry for not counting to ten and reacting a bit impatient. It has been a weird day and still is. All your questions slowly teach me what I should have put on the map page and didn't. There is allways a struggle between telling too little, or telling too much. Shortly after my impatient reaction I added a section to the map page that tells what I explained here in emails. But then I got called away. Jean, I hope it wasn't my impatiente that chased you away? The possibility to alter or delete entries is not very common with guestbooks. The original buddymap only halfheartidly implemented that posibility. I decided to do it only via the moderator (read Lacefairy) to prevent the same and other kind of bugs, pitfalls, privacy and security issues. Please do read everything below the map. I wrote it for that purpose, ... - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] New buddy map / golf course
I've been more amused how the buddymap used to combine people living close together and making a total mess of Holland. Some travelled from place to place, each time new members joined and people from the same city landed in different corners of the country. But the original lattitudes/longitudes were still available for our lacefairy and I used that data to feed the new map. I don't combine people, but make people close together visible by zooming in. Thus no danger to make a total mess. But quite a few specified just a city and recieved the same location as fellow citizins. To be able to zoom in I had to spread them. See for example Buenos Aires: I placed them around a pond in a park as some neutral zone. In other cities I used bridges or squares. But I don't think this story applies to you. In this case google maps just returns with the golf course when you enter the address you specified. I hope new members have the politenes not to place themself on top of someone else. Otherwise I have to keep spreading. A vague idea to solve the IE mailto bug is lingering on my mind, but a headache is coming up so I wish you all good night. I was amused when looking at the map to see that I have been relocated to living in the middle of the neighboring town's golf course! Sue - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New buddy map / IE
Bug found: I'm sorry folks, it appears with Microsoft Internet Explorer it is not possible to send emails. With Firefox you can. Please report other browsers that can't too. I don't know when I get that fixed. Jo - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] New buddy map
Hello spiders As some might allready have noticed, the buddymap has changed. You can find it on http://lace.lacefairy.com/Map Irritated by unattended bugs in the BuddMap I thought I could do better. I underestimated the challenge, learnt some new IT techniques on the flight and my hard disc decided to crash :( just after going live and still having to fix some details. The lacefairy is still the owner and main moderator, but if I overlooked new bugs, I'd like to hear from you. Some differences: - no need for weird actions like select USA to find a city in Israel - no irratic position of the markers, you get a preview of your bubble and its location. You can drag the marker to the desired position before submitting. That marker will be on the same position if you return the next day. - large comments scroll within the bubble - without images the page loads much faster and can't spread virusses. - it is easy to see who is new on the map because new entries are listed on top in the list. - no account needed to mail to someone who placed an email address on the map, yet the email addresses are better protected against mass messages than in the arachne archives - some used to have the possibility to alter their own entry. Now each bubble has a link to report abuse or a mistake to the webmisstress. - On the map you can hide your old marker by placing the new one exactly on top of the old one, but through the list your old entry will stay visible until deleted by the webmistress. Jo For map matters the technical assistant of the Lacefairy - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Pillow maker
this looks like more details with prices http://www.arpuu.fi/web-content/verkkokauppa.html this looks like an address http://www.arpuu.fi/web-content/yhteys.html Jo from the Netherlands The web site shows the pillows but I am unable to read it and can not work out the address. They are in Finland can anyone on the list help please. Faye Owers - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Replying to messages
But with replyig threads are nicely grouped in the archive http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/ Your own mail client might also have an option to group threads. Jo Falkink paste into a new message and have to type in the subject yourself. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Lace corners - circular lace
Dear Spiders I remember a note by L.A. Viddeleer in her book about lassen (joining lace) that circular laces should stay on the pillow/pricking until the joining took actually place. If the lace had been lying around for a while, it would not lie flat anymore and would be impossible to join and attach. I can't lay my hand on the book at the moment for details. I'm wondering what that would mean for my circular grid program... Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Graph paper
The comma (,) should be a dot. If that doesn't work somehow you ca try the working diagram link in the menu on the left. Same program, just another way of launching. Jo I was wondering about the bobbinwork viewer. It goes to a page can't be found. I do have Java. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] plied wire / wire bobbins
I did a few small (6 pairs) torchon projects with wire and discovered that 3 plies of .1mm works about the same as 1 ply of .2mm. The 3-plies however looked much better for the cloth stitch areas. The 3-plies also behave more like normal threads. I don't use hooks on the bobbins. Thicker wire don't need a hitch as long as you don't pull the bobbins but *fold* the wire itself. Don't use the pins as a pulley: put a pin after the thread is in place. For the thinner wire I use haarklemmetjes for example nr 70057 on http://www.mariebelle.nl/nl/dept_74.html The leach can easily be made longer while holding the bobbin horizontaly, the leach keeps its length with the bobbin in normal position. I also saw someone with wire bobbins carved with C-shaped heads, don't know were they came from. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] overlapped sewing / joining loops
Hello Spiders On http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/striklas-EN.html I show how I interpreted two techniques of the beginning of the end. It proofs you can do overlapped sewing of CTC. http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/vl-afw-EN.html shows the back sides of some Flanders projects linking to the page that shows the front sides. With my first real overlapped sewing project I'm at the point of taking the deap breath before cutting. Don't hold your braeth until I show the result and how I did it. In my opinion a disadvantage of Ulrike's method is the beginning might be complicated to figure out, and you discover the mistakes when finishing and can't redo the start any more. When having starting problems with the sewing method you don't need to redo the start, just continue a little longer at the end. The sewing method also doesn't have a front/back side. BTW, I didn't only change the navigation method on my site, but also extended http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html which evaluates lace software. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: [lace] Organizing bobbin pairs on a bolster
The spiral idea is already some years on my web-site (www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/hang-EN.html) an invented by myself after some other disgarded attempts. You also can wind some wire around a stick. I don't know whether your teacher copied my idea, or we both invented the same. The page links to another idea (beads sewn on a strip of cardboard) on http://www.korki-4.de/kloeppeln/kloeppeln.html More work to make the tool, and I don't know anything about tuning the size and distance of the beads nor shape of the card board. Perhaps leather would do too. But I suppose the threads less easyer slip out when the threads goes more or less horizontal. Many German supliers sell also kloeppelkaemme: flattened stiff spirals. When working with many bobbins you can pile them at the back and side of the pillow, for example with stitch holders or wooden sticks with rubber bands. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] double/half (retry)
Funny how my messages do not always reach the digest. Yesterday I wrote two, with only one or two minutes interval. Both are in the archive, but http://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/msg10234.html didn't appear in the digest. So here it is again: In Dutch we also have name variants for the same stitches. But it are consistent and logical sets that are never mixed. set 1: netslag (ct/tc) - dubbele netslag (ctct/tctc) set 2: halve slag (ct/tc) - hele slag (ctct/tctc) In both sets linenslag for ctc halve = half hele=whole dubbele=double net=net slag=stitch Inconsisted and mixed translations to English (if I'm well informed bobbin lace traveled from the Dutch speaking part of Belgium to England) might be the cause some came up with double stitch for twice a half stitch and the rest of the confusion. I'm wondering about the French terms. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] half/double
In Dutch we also have name variants for the same stitches. But it are consistent and logical sets that are never mixed. set 1: netslag (ct/tc) - dubbele netslag (ctct/tctc) set 2: halve slag (ct/tc) - hele slag (ctct/tctc) In both sets linenslag for ctc halve = half hele=whole dubbele=double net=net slag=stitch Mixing everything when translating to English might be the cause some came up with double stitch for twice a half stitch and the rest of the confusion. I'm wondering about the French terms. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] CT/KD
KD for CT works not only in German but also in Dutch (German: Kreuzen drehen; Dutch: kruisen draaien) Tamara wrote: While it all could be taken care of via a single colour and the appropriate number of cross-hatches ... That works for Milanese lace as it doesn't use half stitches. I wouldn't now how to distinghuish between a half stitch and cloth stitch with just adding cross-hatches. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] design software
I can't help but to react on some old messages, I stumbled on them in the archive. No affiliate on any, I only bought Knipling once and get free updates for exessive comments and sugestions on what could be done better in a next version. Ilske und Peter Thomsen Mon, 01 Sep 2003 But if you, like me design free pattern than you couldn't use Knipling or Easy-lace You might be right for Easy-Lace as well as for the French product listed on my web page http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html But Lace-2000 and Knipling do support free lace. They both can divide a line into dots. Knipling even has a command to draw the runner simultaneously with the dots in a free shape or tape/ribbon. Alison Addicks wrote on Fri, 02 Jan 2004 about Software Knipling 2.4 What are the reviews of the software package? Did you ever got an answer? A much more detailed update is prepared for the page listed above, but it might take e few weeks before it is online. I could mail you the page in advance. Jean Nathan Mon, 01 Sep 2003 I thought about 'Knipling' which, being continental, seems much more free in the patterns is can create than Easylace and Lace 2000. But then is it able to make a fan or put in roseground as well? What particularly appealed is the fact that (apparently) at the touch of a key you can convert the pricking into a technical drawing. Version 3 of knipling has special fucntions to draw various types of fans in one command. But I'm afraid you are expecting too much it converts a pricking into a technical drawing. You can decide to print only the layer(s) with dots and perhaps some other lines for the pricking, or print all layers or another set of layers at another scale for the working diagram. Thus you can store both drawings in one file and share the common part. But lace-2000 also has layers (even more I think). Knipling however can convert a runner drawn sharp from dot to dot, into a line that goes around the dots. But that is more elaborate than you seem to expect. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] cheap looks
In stead of pointing to others why don't they appreciate our work? we could also look at our self and wonder what we are doing wrong. On some occasion I heard a peace of lace was identified as an application of orange-net. If it had been my own work, I would question myself: why doing so difficult if the same effect could be reached so much easier? Aren't we getting blind, aren't we thinking it has taken so much effort to make so it must be stunning. Isn't it the other way around, because something is stunning, it is worth the trouble making it? Another aspect: if you want to impress, don't mount it on jeans or a cheap T-shirt, better use an evening dress or something else that is already elegant by itself. Too often the most stunning pieces of lace are mounted on the cheapest fans or umbrella frames, which degrades all the effort taken. Would ancient paintings impress without ancient frames? Both need each other. My mother in law makes makes beatifull ceramics, one piece she adorned with the hands of a clock: it suddenly looks cheap. A personal opinion: Lace is about structure and rhythm of varying transparency. The absence of fiber is as important as the presence of fiber. I don't want to say something negative about modern pieces. But sometimes color and fiber distract so much from the structure of the holes, it becomes modern art and has no more in common with lace than the production method. Then I would consider why use such a complicated production method. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] color charts
Hello Brenda and all color loving spiders I just found site with many links to many color and conversion charts! http://users.rcn.com/kdyer.dnai/conversion.html Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] demonstrations
Many years ago I demonstrated lace at a Craft Fair in my hometown Betty Ann in Roanoke Virginia Me too. During the rain people took shelter under my roof with their back turned against me and what I was showing. But more showed interest, some sighed they would never ever have the patience, but also some wanted to learn. For everything there are people who like it and those wo don't or even make fun about it. If you don't want anybody to dislike what you are doing: do nothing at all. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] 4000 pinholes
Hello Spiders This weekend I started a Torchon sampler with the boring task of pricking more than 4000 pinholes. I vaguely remember a remark on a Spanish site (must be between http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/linkovz-EN.html but I don't remember which one) about a device making prickings. Wouldn't a digital-photo like print service be an idea? e-mail a pattern exported from a program like listed on http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/SoftKlos-EN.html and get a ready printed and pricked pattern at the desired size returned by snail-mail. Does anybody now more about such a device (I don't understand Spanish), would there be customers for such a service and (if yes) would there be someone to exploit such a service? Jo Faklink throwing a stone in the quite pond to see wether it cause waves. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lassen /joining
On our side ofe the pond, you have the possibiliy to let some professional sew your lace. Yes, we know, and envy you with all our hearts :) Though I've heard of some Americans who did send - at a great expense - their lace off to Belgium to be joined and mounted, and received back a mess which they could have achieved on their own, at much less expense :) Tamara I heard similair stories. So I still have two sampler UFO's to try myself. They don't sit on a pillow any more but are still pinned on the pricking. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Re: lace-digest V2004 #256
... As I say, if you can't speak it, don't write it!! ... Why bother, unless you get it right? Helene, the froggy from Melbourne, still enjoying the rain. I knew a French speaking Swiss, living in Zurich who never really mastered German because of such an attitude. He confessed he even started to talk very late as a child for the same reason. I didn't care too much about mistakes and thus even learnt to understand the local diaclect in a few months. It must have sounded horrible though when I opened my mouth, but thus the locals didn't avoid a conversation with me as they didn't need to switch to their official language, which is in practice a foreign language for them. Appreciate the attempt! At least, when it is meant to make your life easier and not just to impress. Jo Falkink, desperately waiting for some real rain. And translating her site to Frecnh with the help of a volunteer, while even the English version might still be clumsy. http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/intro-EN.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Oops: V2004 #256 - punctuation
Sorry wrong subject. Couldn't unpress any more. Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Martine Bruggeman
Martine doesn't use a specific traditional style of any kind. You'll have to find youre own way and use your fantasy. I googled up some work made after designs by Martine Bruggeman. May be that gives an idea. http://www.geocities.com/ieperse_huiskant/sneeuwwitje.html http://www.vanniftrik.nl/kantklossen/ http://www.vanniftrik.nl/kantklossen/resultaten.htm http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dentelle.fuseau/perso34.htm Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace link
Tamara, http://www.cipka.sk is already in my collection, well, at least a sub-page. Linky may not be difficult to understand and anicka is an asset, but wether the easter-eggs, uluv, stonline, the museum and stenly have something hidden somewhere about bobbinlace? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] top/edge sewing
Hello Spiders Im busy with the Palm tree from Milanese Lace: an Introduction. I did the first one-and a half leaf, did other things for a few month, then finished the second half of the second leaf. But... I forgot I did the first leaf with top sewing and did the second with edge sewings. I don't have an apetite in undoing, and on second thoughts I think edge sewing are better in this case. Could I hide the effect of the top sewing for the first leaf somehow? For example by sewing one or two threads around the sewing line? Jo Falkink - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] archive of cd 2000
I've found an archive of whatever on the web. Also containing copies of the CD 2000 galery: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://freespace.virgin.net/deborah.robinson/cd2000.htm May be you need to glue together the link, or go to http://www.archive.org and fill in http://freespace.virgin.net/deborah.robinson/cd2000.htm or whatever old site you want to recall. hmmm, may be something for the lost links of the collection of links on my site. Quite a project... I tried it out on my own site but not every version was saved. But there must be quite a lot around. Jo Falkink www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] lace CD 2000 pages
Hello Deborah I'm afraid the link to the lace guild on http://freespace.virgin.net/deborah.robinson/cd2000.htm is not correct any more. Same for the email address on the homepage of that site. Somewhere there used to be a gallery of all the CD's. I can't find it any more. Is it removed or located somewhere else? Can anybody help or relocate Deborah? Jo Falkink www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
