[lace] Adhesives for fans
Hi Arachnids Wallpaper paste is mentioned in Christine's book as it is very easily removed form the lace is it ever has to be removed for cleaning. It is preferable to ise paste that does not contain fungicide as we do not know the long term effects of this substance on fabrics and it remains active for many years. However, you may prefer to tale the chance as it will prevent fungi from growing on the paste - and your lace. Another warning, this time regarding flour and water paste. Flour is a foodstuff relished by many bugs and fungi, it will attract them and they may not attack the only the paste. Keep lacemaking Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
[lace] Adhesives for fans
Jeri and I have exchanged a couple of emails following my email to the list about Nancy Armstrong, which she thought should be posted to the list . So here's the whole thing in chronoligical order: >From Jean: >From Jeri: > My copy of this book was published in 1978 -- 25 years ago. I wonder if all > the products are still available, and if - with 25 years of additional > experience, the experts at the Fan Museum might have new information to share. In 25 > years, framers have greatly changed their methods and are using new products > to protect art. > > I have not been out to shop for glues, and am not making a lace fan, but can > tell you that none of these product names are familiar to me on this side of > the "Big Pond". > > Therefore, I think it would still be wise to have someone write a current > article on this subject for The Lace Guild's magazine. >From Jean: >From Jeri: Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Adhesives for fans
I get sooo behind with my digests >While not suggesting for a moment that she would remember what adhesives fan >makers used before synthetic adhesives, many years ago Pat Read recommended >gum arabic to me. It was in powder/granular form and had to be dissolved in >water before use. Perhaps Jane could tell us more. I can't help much - Mum is on holiday and incommunicado, so I can't ask her. My understanding is that gum arabic is a traditional paste used for paper and fabrics. A search on the internet tells me that it is an exudate of acacia trees. It was a water soluble gum used in adhesives, ink and marbling paints. As an adhesive it was valued for its ready solubility in water, readiness for use, cleanliness and ease of application. However, it is too moisture sensitive for archival work. These days it seems to be used more in the food processing industry. It is an emulsifier used to stabilise flavours and essential oils, and is used in confectionary, such as wine gums, pastilles and marshmallows. - so, your useless information for today. What used to be used as glue, is now eaten as food. Cheers Jane In an excessively hot and humid Hampshire where I've had headaches for several days PS Nearly forgot the obligatory lace content: > "Several weeks" is a longish project Interesting viewpoint Indeed. I'd say several weeks was an incredibly short project. Over the last six years I've averaged one piece of lace per year. I only have one piece of work on the go and they've all been pretty small. Its a question of how much time available and currently there isn't any. Ms Jane Read Southampton Oceanography Centre, Empress Dock, Southampton, SO14 3ZH, U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 02380-596432 - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Adhesives for fans
A google search for "fungicide free wallpaper paste" will bring up (surprise, surprise) fungicide free alternatives. Apart from using it for pasting wallpaper, embroiderers use it for some of their textile crafts and gardeners use it to make a carrier to be able to squeeze fine seeds into drills like toothpaste. Jacquie in Lincolnshire. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com
Re: [lace] Adhesives for fans
In a message dated 30/07/03 10:06:25 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << It would be interesting to find out what fan makers used during the 1900s before these synthetic adhesives were around. >> While not suggesting for a moment that she would remember what adhesives fan makers used before synthetic adhesives, many years ago Pat Read recommended gum arabic to me. It was in powder/granular form and had to be dissolved in water before use. Perhaps Jane could tell us more. I have to confess that the lace did not stay stuck for long, but that was probably due to operator error. In retrospect, I should perhaps have primed the wooden sticks in some way, and I could easily have got the proportions of water/gum arabic wrong. I do have to say though that when the lace came off, after some months, there was no mark or staining apparent, and there still is not after probably another 15 years. And the leaf is still not back on the sticks. Jacquie - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [lace] Adhesives for fans
Evostick - there are two types of evostick -the one that shoe repairers use to stick soles on shoes (red) - DO NOT USE THIS - it turns dark brown and stains and damages your lace. and the green evow - which is used for woodwork and is a pva glue. From discussions with a couple of people when I made my first fan leaf (yet to be mounted some 10 years later) - the Green EvoW or Evowood or any good PVA is really good to prime the part of the fan stick that you wish to attach the lace too. All you do is water th PVA glue down to half and half glue water or even a little less and paint a fine layer onto the part of the fan stick that you wish to attach the fan to - because wood is porous the glue seals the wood and gives a better 'stick'. This principle is used to seal plaster before painting or even, as my dad did, seal the garage floor to make it water proof. However, it works just as well with fabric. Hopes this helps - when it comes to glue Dad and I are quite expert - it's just sticking the fan leaf to the fan sticks that I'm frighted off. If you are in the uk, creative beadcraft used to do a nice pva glue which you could stick beads to fabric with - I'm not sure if they still do - they do have a website - just search by their company name Regards Liz Beecher -Original Message- From: Jean Nathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 09:38 To: Lace Subject: [lace] Adhesives for fans Jeri and I have exchanged a couple of emails following my email to the list about Nancy Armstrong, which she thought should be posted to the list . So here's the whole thing in chronoligical order: >From Jean: ** The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the individuals named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you should be aware that any dissemination, distribution, forwarding or other duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. The views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual author and not necessarily those of Vivista Limited. Prior to taking any action based upon this e-mail message you should seek appropriate confirmation of its authenticity. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by using the e-mail reply facility. ** _ This message has been checked for all known viruses on behalf of Vivista by MessageLabs. http://www.messagelabs.com or Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivista formerly Securicor Information Systems for further information http://www.vivista.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Adhesives for fans and 'Lace' magazine
In her chapter on repairing fans, Nancy Armstrong in "The Books of Fans" lists Durofix, Evostik, Cascamite, Aerolite, Copydex, Araldite, Calaton, Cellofas and pastes such as Gripfix, as suitable adhesives either for repairing or attaching paper fan leaves to sticks. For lace fans, she suggests stitching the lace to the sticks with invisible thread and beading needles, working from the centre out, and sticking the lace to the guard sticks with Evostick Clear. Glad to hear that most of you have received your copies of 'Lace' with the polar grid in. I'm the one who wanted it, and I haven't received mine yet. My poor postman was glad to get away from me this morning, and if he hasn't got it tomorrow ... Jean in Poole - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED]