[lace] Binche - How Difficult Is It?

2008-06-21 Thread Shirlee Hill
I must admit that I am drawn to many lace techniques, mostly those with which 
you can produce motifs such as flowers or animals, etc.  There is a book by 
Kumiko Nakazaki, Collection 1, which has some beautiful motifs done in 
Binche.  I am going to assume that this is not a book for someone just starting 
to learn the technique.  Is there a beginner's book for Binche  is this lace 
relatively easy to learn?  I've done Bucks  Torchon  various tape laces.
   
  Blessings,
  Shirlee   

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Re: [lace] Binche - How Difficult Is It?

2008-06-21 Thread Kate Henry
Thanks for saying again that it is totally ok to start with whatever lace 
pleases your eye. The lacemakers in Valenciennes START with Valenciennes. 
etc etc etc.  Just do what you love and you will be happy.  Most of us start 
with Torchon because it contains everything that is in all of the other 
laces, and the threads are fat enough to see without a magnifying glass. 
From there, they specialize, and add sweet trademark combinations. Once you 
get hold of cross and twist, there are NO other options. There are only two 
ways to lay a thread over the one next to it, right over left OR left over 
right. Look closely and you will see which it is. Make it happen. Poof! you 
have lace. ALL of them.

:)Kate Henry
Indiana USA

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 Is there a beginner's book for Binche  is this lace relatively easy to 
learn?


Binche, along with Flanders and other members of the same family, uses
working methods that don't usually arise in the other laces you
mention. Pairs can be workers one minute, passives the next. The method
of working is irregular, and sometimes your pairs may even travel back
up the lace. You often tension by pulling one pair against others that
you have held down, but there may not be pins for you to tension
against. Someone from this list once described the thread diagram as
psychotic railroad tracks - a description I've always enjoyed.

Interestingly, there aren't any difficult new techniques - these laces
are made with the skills you already have, but -
when you enter this world you may find some 'rules' you've learned
about making lace don't apply any more, and that can be a very
difficult and frustrating experience.

The first time I tried a lace in this family (after nearly 20 years of
lacemaking experience) I was on my own with a book, and after several
hours of concentrated effort I broke down in tears. Eventually I found
a teacher. My first beginner piece was a half inch wide and required
only 25 pairs. The first repeat of that lace (about an inch and a half)
took me 8 hours (!) (the second 5 hours, and third 2 hours).

Now I've made these types of laces for a few years, and I still
couldn't make one without following a diagram.

So, that's why people will tell you Binche is difficult. For most
people it really is. But I find it totally absorbing and rewarding to
make.

Beginner books are few. There is a Syllabus Binche series from the
Kantcentrum in Belgium. They start you off by working various grounds
of snowflakes. Way back in 1989 Michael Giusiana  Linda Dunn put out a
book Binche lace that, after a brief review of other laces in the
family (Flanders, Point de Paris, Valenciennes), again leads you into
Binche via snowflakes. Personally I found making snowflake ground quite
tedious, and not exceptionally good at preparing you for Binche, and I
stopped after the first two samples. (by the way, it was Binche with
Valenciennes Ground from that book that took me 8 hours for the first
repeat)

Many people recommend starting out with Flanders, so you get used to
the ring pairs and the method of working cloth stitch fillings while
working what many consider to be an easier lace. There are more
beginner Flanders books (I think Mary Niven's book is still available)
than beginner Binche books.

Other people say doing Flanders to prepare you for Binche is a little
like learning to ski to prepare you for snowboarding. Why not just
learn to snowboard in the first place.

Reading this over, I can't help thinking it isn't very helpful. The
truth is, these are hard laces to make, and due to their structure
there aren't that many beginner patterns.

Hope this helps somehow.

Adele
North Vancouver, BC
(west coast of Canada)

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Re: [lace] Binche - How Difficult Is It?

2008-06-21 Thread Sue Duckles

LOL  I love this!!!

Sue in EY
On 21 Jun 2008, at 18:23, Kate Henry wrote:
 Once you get hold of cross and twist, there are NO other options.  
There are only two ways to lay a thread over the one next to it,  
right over left OR left over right. Look closely and you will see  
which it is. Make it happen. Poof! you have lace. ALL of them.


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