Re: [lace] Bucks versus Toender et al

2009-01-20 Thread Diana Smith
I was told the large holes that are typical of Tonder lace are called 
Copenhagen Holes.


Diana in Northamptonshire

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From: David in Ballarat d.collye...@aapt.net.au

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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:17 AM
Subject: [lace] Bucks versus Toender et al



Dear Sue,

I am an avid Bucks Point fan but try as I might I cannot detect
what the essential difference is between Bucks and Tonder perhaps you 
could

enlighten me.


In my experience the main differences are these:-
- Toender is worked in the opposite direction from Bucks (but I don't)
- Toender is characterized by - large holes surrounded by honeycomb stitch

I find these days that regardless of which point ground lace I am making, 
I use Chantilly techniques, and probably a few I've developed myself. The 
end result looks lovely and only a lace-maker could tell the difference.


I very rarely fill in a petal for a floral motif with whole stitch - too 
easy to see when you either have too many or too few bobbins. Half stitch 
is much more forgiving.
Also, I never put any extra twists on the inside of a gimp in a motif. 
That way the filling always comes right up to the gimp. Sometimes I will 
add an extra one or two on the outside to compensate.
I use Elwyn KENN's looper technique whenever possible in order to avoid 
the need for adding in short extra gimps.

Can't thank of anything else relevant right now
David in Ballarat



Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK


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RE: [lace] Bucks versus Toender et al

2009-01-20 Thread Sue
Thank you David for the explanation that will be a great help as I hope to
master Tonder before visiting Denmark for the next lace festival which I
think is in 2010.  One more question please, what is a Elwyn KENN'S looper
technique maybe it is something I know of under another name.
Bye for now
Happy lacing
Sue

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[lace] Bucks versus Toender et al

2009-01-19 Thread David in Ballarat

Dear Sue,

I am an avid Bucks Point fan but try as I might I cannot detect
what the essential difference is between Bucks and Tonder perhaps you could
enlighten me.


In my experience the main differences are these:-
- Toender is worked in the opposite direction from Bucks (but I don't)
- Toender is characterized by - large holes surrounded by honeycomb stitch

I find these days that regardless of which point ground lace I am 
making, I use Chantilly techniques, and probably a few I've developed 
myself. The end result looks lovely and only a lace-maker could tell 
the difference.


I very rarely fill in a petal for a floral motif with whole stitch - 
too easy to see when you either have too many or too few bobbins. 
Half stitch is much more forgiving.
Also, I never put any extra twists on the inside of a gimp in a 
motif. That way the filling always comes right up to the gimp. 
Sometimes I will add an extra one or two on the outside to compensate.
I use Elwyn KENN's looper technique whenever possible in order to 
avoid the need for adding in short extra gimps.

Can't thank of anything else relevant right now
David in Ballarat



Sue M Harvey
Norfolk UK


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