[lace] Dillmont
The original French edition was issued in 1886, an English version is available online at: http://encyclopediaofneedlework.com/index.htm http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20776/20776-h/20776-h.htm Ruth P. Hellmann has written about Therese de Dillmont in the Bulletin of the Needle and Bobbin Club vol 59 nos 12 1976: http://www.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/articles/nb76_dil.pdf Her appendices 1 and 2 list the chapters in the 1886 and 1913 French editions respectively. Vibeke in Copenhagen - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Thanks to Liz for this information which gives more clues. I have what I suspect could be the English equivalent of the edition that Lucie has access to. For those trying to date the pocket versions, they just do not appear to have the same identifying marks as the larger sized editions so the dating information provided on the list doesn't help. Narrowing it down by # of copies seems to be as much as anyone has been able to do. JulieO in Whitehorse, Yukon, just back from a trip to England with some lace content, need to find time to share - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
RE: [lace] Dillmont again - to Liz Pass in Poole, Dorset
Hello Lucie ( and Lynn) From your description, it appears that you have a French edition. The earliest French edition that I have details for was dated Oct 1909, when 630,000 copies had been printed. I don't have the number of pages for this one, which is the larger size, but the 1924 pocket size contained 828. So it appears that your book predates 1909. I keep looking for more clues to dates - the best so far was a English version which had a handwritten inscription - Holmes, Windermere, 1895. I believe the first book was published in 1886. Hope this helps a bit, Liz -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of lucie...@uottawa.ca Sent: 14 October 2009 19:08 To: lace@arachne.com Subject: [lace] Dillmont again - to Liz Pass in Poole, Dorset Dear Liz, maybe you can help me date my Therese de Dillmont, Encyclopedie de Ouvrages des Dames. Paris: Librairie Ch. Delagrave (n.d.) 826 pages + 44 pages of ads and contents. Olive green cloth cover, black and gold DMC logo paper on inside cover, 560,000 printed copies, pocket size (9.5cm x 14cm) thank you Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Dillmont again - to Liz Pass in Poole, Dorset
Dear Liz, maybe you can help me date my Therese de Dillmont, Encyclopedie de Ouvrages des Dames. Paris: Librairie Ch. Delagrave (n.d.) 826 pages + 44 pages of ads and contents. Olive green cloth cover, black and gold DMC logo paper on inside cover, 560,000 printed copies, pocket size (9.5cm x 14cm) thank you Lucie DuFresne Ottawa Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Hi Liz, As I see that you are gathering info from other countries too... here is mine from a Spanish version of the book: It has the number 631, and the copyright for this Spanish edition is from 1975. It also says 1,335,000 copies published, and has 832 pages plus index and coloured pictures of laces, and some history of DMC. I have bought it a few years ago. It measures 23,5 x 15,5 cm. I like this thread. Really interesting. And the book is beautiful. But... has anyone tried to learn how to make bobbin lace following the instructions of this book? Well, I haven't. But it seems quite difficult to me. Diagrams are a great help nowadays! Greetings Antje, from Gualdalajara, Spain - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Hi Everyone, My copy is an English pocket edition, 33/4 by 55/8inches (9.5cm x14cm). It has 928, so was published in September 1928. There were 1,120,00 copies issued, 811 pages before all the ads and the contents. Eve Poole, Dorset, UK Elizabeth Pass wrote: Hello Diana, If your book has the number 630, it was published in June 1930. Check that it also says 1,260,000 copies published and has 813 pages. It seems that many book sellers had their own business details on the cover. One of mine comes from WH Smith, the other has no further details on it. I've been collating these books for some years and so far have established that there were 18 editions in English covering the years 1895 (handwritten by the first owner) up to 1955. I've also got a modern reprint and I've details of 5 French editions and 2 German. If anyone has the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th. de Dillmont and wants to send to send me the details, I'd like to know the number at the bottom on the reverse of the title page, the number of copies published and the number of pages as well as the size. There was a 'pocket' edition and another twice the size. If there are any other details such as the bookseller, I'd be interested in that too. Best wishes, Liz Pass In Poole, Dorset where the weather is humid and overcast but warm enough for me. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Diana Smith Sent: 28 June 2009 18:48 To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Dillmont dating I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th.de Dillmont by the number printed inside the book. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.93/2206 - Release Date: 06/27/09 17:55:00 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Dillmont dating
I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th.de Dillmont by the number printed inside the book. I have a copy with the number 630 can anyone on arachne tell me the date this edition was published? An interesting addition is the name Winifred Ward, Art Needlework Depot, 11 Royal Arcade, Cardiff printed on the outer cover. Many thanks Diana in Northamptonshire - where we're expecting thunder and lighting any moment now!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Hello Diana, If your book has the number 630, it was published in June 1930. Check that it also says 1,260,000 copies published and has 813 pages. It seems that many book sellers had their own business details on the cover. One of mine comes from WH Smith, the other has no further details on it. I've been collating these books for some years and so far have established that there were 18 editions in English covering the years 1895 (handwritten by the first owner) up to 1955. I've also got a modern reprint and I've details of 5 French editions and 2 German. If anyone has the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th. de Dillmont and wants to send to send me the details, I'd like to know the number at the bottom on the reverse of the title page, the number of copies published and the number of pages as well as the size. There was a 'pocket' edition and another twice the size. If there are any other details such as the bookseller, I'd be interested in that too. Best wishes, Liz Pass In Poole, Dorset where the weather is humid and overcast but warm enough for me. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Diana Smith Sent: 28 June 2009 18:48 To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Dillmont dating I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th.de Dillmont by the number printed inside the book. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Hi Liz Yes mine has the 1,260,000 quoted. I have another copy somewhere but wouldn't know where to begin the search ;o( Eureka - found it quite easily. This is in a slightly larger format and is numbered 739 - 1,540,000. It has a label inside for D.M.C. Thread Co.Ltd., 299 Kennington Road, London S.E.11. Thank you for the info. Best wishes Diana - we had a torrential downpour but no storm. - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Pass elizabeth.p...@tesco.net To: 'Diana Smith' dian...@tiscali.co.uk; 'Arachne' lace@arachne.com Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: RE: [lace] Dillmont dating Hello Diana, If your book has the number 630, it was published in June 1930. Check that it also says 1,260,000 copies published and has 813 pages. It seems that many book sellers had their own business details on the cover. One of mine comes from WH Smith, the other has no further details on it. I've been collating these books for some years and so far have established that there were 18 editions in English covering the years 1895 (handwritten by the first owner) up to 1955. I've also got a modern reprint and I've details of 5 French editions and 2 German. If anyone has the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th. de Dillmont and wants to send to send me the details, I'd like to know the number at the bottom on the reverse of the title page, the number of copies published and the number of pages as well as the size. There was a 'pocket' edition and another twice the size. If there are any other details such as the bookseller, I'd be interested in that too. Best wishes, Liz Pass In Poole, Dorset where the weather is humid and overcast but warm enough for me. -Original Message- From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Diana Smith Sent: 28 June 2009 18:48 To: Arachne Subject: [lace] Dillmont dating I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th.de Dillmont by the number printed inside the book. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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At 03:47 AM 29/06/2009, Diana Smith wrote: I know there is a way of dating the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th.de Dillmont by the number printed inside the book. I have a copy with the number 630 can anyone on arachne tell me the date this edition was published? An interesting addition is the name Winifred Ward, Art Needlework Depot, 11 Royal Arcade, Cardiff printed on the outer cover. June 1930 David in Ballarat Many thanks Diana in Northamptonshire - where we're expecting thunder and lighting any moment now!! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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mine is a french copy, edited 1987, number of edition 4306, ISBN 2.7144.4306.0, but I don't find a number of copies Alix from Luxembourg - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
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Hello Liz Mine is 6 x 9.5 and the reverse of the title page just says To be had: of Th de Dillmont, Dornach, Alsace and at all booksellers, and embroidery shops - Price, English bound with gilt edges: English Edition . . . Sh 3- French Edition . . . Fr 3.75 German Edition . . . Mk 3- There is no number at the bottom of that page I made a note, from a previous Arachne discussion that it was printed in Dornash until 1923 and after that in Mulhouse. I paid 13.00 GBP for it, probably about 25 years ago. Brenda I've been collating these books for some years and so far have established that there were 18 editions in English covering the years 1895 (handwritten by the first owner) up to 1955. I've also got a modern reprint and I've details of 5 French editions and 2 German. If anyone has the Encyclopedia of Needlework by Th. de Dillmont and wants to send to send me the details, I'd like to know the number at the bottom on the reverse of the title page, the number of copies published and the number of pages as well as the size. There was a 'pocket' edition and another twice the size. If there are any other details such as the bookseller, I'd be interested in that too. Brenda in Allhallows, Kent http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/index.html - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
