Re: [lace] Fanleaves

2006-01-18 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hello Dee

Yes it is easy to use - just open
http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html
and click on the 'draw' button.  That will download a small file called 
bpwGrid.jar to your computer.
Then just play about altering the number of repeats, number of dots per 
repeat, headside diameter, footside diameter, etc. and click 'draw' 
each time.  There's also the option of having two different grids 
together so that the inner part has less dots per circle than the outer 
part (that's the density change box).


Once you get familiar with the grid drawing program you should be able 
to look at the Henk Hardeman pattern (or any other) count up how many 
repeats in a full circle and how many dots per repeat, measure the 
inside and outside diameters of the required leaf and then generate a 
suitable grid to print off and then draw (by hand!) over it.


This seems to be a suitable time to repeat what I've often said - NEVER 
start on a big fan project without being sure that the pattern will fit 
the sticks, and NEVER start working a fan leaf before you have the 
sticks!


Brenda

On 17 Jan 2006, at 19:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thank you very much, Brenda.  I will try that site, and see how I get 
on. Is it easy to get grids from that site?  I am not very experienced 
on the computer!  It is a lovely pattern, though, and I do not want to 
give up on it.  Thanks again for the help.


Dee
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Hello Dee

You have to get the outer circumference AND the inner circumference 
the same as your fan sticks, as well as being the right depth/width. 
Enlarging/reducing will alter both the circumferences and the width. 
Stretching a circular pricking on one direction only will turn it 
into an elipse.


Your teacher is right; if the pattern does not fit your sticks you 
will have to draw your own.  You could just re-draw the Henk Hardeman 
pattern onto a polar grid of the right size.  Re-drawing existing 
patterns is the first step towards designing your own anyway.  
There's an excellent source of polar grids on Jo Falkink's website:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html

Brenda

On 17 Jan 2006, at 14:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, when I join the pieces of the leaf together, I find that 
the outer circumference is too great, so I reduced it to 80% of the 
original, and now the shape fits beautifully - BUT of course, the 
width has also reduced, and it is no longer wide enough.


I thought I had solved it by scanning the reduced pattern into Word, 
and then stretching it, but this also alters each piece of pattern 
so that when it is joined up again, the pieces do not make a 
complete semi-circle.  As it is on a polar grid, and the holes when 
reduced are very close together at the bottom, it is not possible to 
simply add more holes and continue the pattern to fit the sticks.


My lace teacher tells me that there is nothing I can do about it, 
and that I will have to design my own!  I am still hoping that I may 
be able to use this pattern, as it is really perfect.  Can anyone 
help, please?




Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/





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[lace] Fanleaves

2006-01-17 Thread delia.palin
I have been lucky enough to buy two sets of beautiful bone fansticks one of 
which dates from 1890,  and the other smaller one from 1910.  The fanleaves 
were completely shredded, and I have removed them.  I am now looking for a 
pattern to make new fanleaves for them, and thought I had been so lucky to 
get a copy of Henk Hardeman's Torchon Lace Patterns as there is one in 
there.  It needs exactly the right number of fansticks for the larger of the 
two sets I have, and on measuring the width of the leaf, it is exactly 
right.  However, when I join the pieces of the leaf together, I find that 
the outer circumference is too great, so I reduced it to 80% of the 
original, and now the shape fits beautifully - BUT of course, the width has 
also reduced, and it is no longer wide enough.


I thought I had solved it by scanning the reduced pattern into Word, and 
then stretching it, but this also alters each piece of pattern so that when 
it is joined up again, the pieces do not make a complete semi-circle.  As it 
is on a polar grid, and the holes when reduced are very close together at 
the bottom, it is not possible to simply add more holes and continue the 
pattern to fit the sticks.


My lace teacher tells me that there is nothing I can do about it, and that I 
will have to design my own!  I am still hoping that I may be able to use 
this pattern, as it is really perfect.  Can anyone help, please?


Also, does anyone know where I can buy polar grid paper to design my own 
fanleaves?


Thank you.

Dee Palin
Gloucestershire 


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Re: [lace] Fanleaves

2006-01-17 Thread Carolina de la Guardia

Hello Dee,
First of all congratulations, you are lucky in finding so interesting 
fan sticks.
Perhaps I can make a redrawn of the fanleaves for you if you send me the 
pattern privately together with the measures that fit the new fans ticks.


Best regards

Carolina. Barcelona. Spain.

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I have been lucky enough to buy two sets of beautiful bone fansticks one 
of which dates from 1890,  and the other smaller one from 1910.  The 




My lace teacher tells me that there is nothing I can do about it, and 
that I will have to design my own!  I am still hoping that I may be able 
to use this pattern, as it is really perfect.  Can anyone help, please?


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Re: [lace] Fanleaves

2006-01-17 Thread Brenda Paternoster

Hello Dee

You have to get the outer circumference AND the inner circumference the 
same as your fan sticks, as well as being the right depth/width.  
Enlarging/reducing will alter both the circumferences and the width.  
Stretching a circular pricking on one direction only will turn it into 
an elipse.


Your teacher is right; if the pattern does not fit your sticks you will 
have to draw your own.  You could just re-draw the Henk Hardeman 
pattern onto a polar grid of the right size.  Re-drawing existing 
patterns is the first step towards designing your own anyway.  There's 
an excellent source of polar grids on Jo Falkink's website:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~falkink/lace/grid-round-EN.html

Brenda

On 17 Jan 2006, at 14:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

However, when I join the pieces of the leaf together, I find that the 
outer circumference is too great, so I reduced it to 80% of the 
original, and now the shape fits beautifully - BUT of course, the 
width has also reduced, and it is no longer wide enough.


I thought I had solved it by scanning the reduced pattern into Word, 
and then stretching it, but this also alters each piece of pattern so 
that when it is joined up again, the pieces do not make a complete 
semi-circle.  As it is on a polar grid, and the holes when reduced are 
very close together at the bottom, it is not possible to simply add 
more holes and continue the pattern to fit the sticks.


My lace teacher tells me that there is nothing I can do about it, and 
that I will have to design my own!  I am still hoping that I may be 
able to use this pattern, as it is really perfect.  Can anyone help, 
please?




Brenda
http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/

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