Sticky Wax: was: RE: [lace] Lace dye

2005-12-11 Thread Joy Beeson
At 06:01 PM 12/9/05 -, Jane Bawn wrote:

Joy Beeson wrote
For information about dyes, the Dharma website 
http://www.dharmatrading.com/  is always the first resort.

Unfortunately they do not ship to the UK

Though it isn't as informative as the paper catalog was, 
there's still a lot of data on the website.  I found, for 
example, a list of different kinds of resists, together 
with an explanation of how gutta resists differ from 
water-soluble resists, how sticky wax is a cheap 
substitute for beeswax (though it didn't explain what 
sticky wax *is*, and maybe it's called something else 
on your side of the pond), and why batik is done with a 
mixture of beeswax or sticky wax and paraffine rather 
than either by itself, how you get the resists out of the 
fabric when you are done and why some resists are never 
removed, and what you have to put up with if you don't 
remove them.  

I believe that our paraffine is your paraffine wax.  

I was disappointed that they offer only bleached-white 
beeswax; I prefer natural yellow.  Not that I'd have ever 
bought a whole pound of it; I use it only for sharpening 
threads, and the little cake I bought in a fabric store thirty 
or forty years ago is still going strong (though worn a little 
flat on one side.)

Google said that sticky wax is a wax-based adhesive.  
I got all excited when I found some gummint-safety PDF on 
sticky wax that had a composition field, but all it said was 
petroleum hydrocarbons with additives.  It went on to say 
that it gives off irritating fumes when hot, and if you splash 
molten wax on yourself you could get burned.  Also found 
that surfboarders, orthodontics makers, museums, and people 
who show off horse figurines use it.  I'm not at all sure all those 
folks are using the *same* sticky wax!  The figurine fans use 
it to stick bits in the horse's mouths, the museums keep artifacts 
from falling off the shelf, people who make wax molds glue the 
molds together with it -- seems to have originated as a glue to 
set candles in their holders.   I've also seen cheeses and frozen 
meats that had been dipped in a sticky wax -- red for the 
cheeses, and an apparently-natural yellow for the meats, which 
had been placed in cheesecloth bags first to make it easy to get 
the wax off.  

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[lace] Lace dye

2005-12-09 Thread Jean Nathan
Came across this 'lace dye'. It isn't specifically intended for lace, as the 
label on the bottle states 'craft dye'.


Has anyone tried doing this. The effects show in the photographs are 
interesting, but does the dye bleed or can it be made to stay within 
specific threads. I made a piece recently where I wanted blocks of colour, 
which was fine if I only used whole stitch for the blocks - I could add and 
remove a pair of coloured workers as needed. But I really wanted some 
diagonal 'stripes' of rose ground and another of spiders, where adding and 
subtracting extra threads wouldn't work. I had thought of fabric dye, but 
didn't try it as I was convinced that it would bleed into areas where I 
didn't want it.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lace-Painting-Dyeing-3-bottles-Great-Fun_W0QQitemZ8238436724QQcategoryZ19158QQssPageNameZWD2VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

or search for item number 8238436724

Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK 


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Re: [lace] Lace dye

2005-12-09 Thread delia.palin
Jan Gardiner of Lacewing Designs makes one of her designs in 
natural-coloured silk (a dragon) and then dyes it, and you can attend one of 
her courses in Salisbury to learn how to do it properly.  The fact that the 
dyes do bleed into each other is a vital part of the appearance of the 
finished article.


Dee Palin
Gloucestershire 


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Re: [lace] Lace dye

2005-12-09 Thread Joy Beeson
For information about dyes, the Dharma website  http://www.dharmatrading.com/ 
 is always the first resort.  

There are various resists one can paint on a fabric to define sharp lines.  
Some wash out, some don't -- I'd practice on a cheap fabric of the same fiber, 
then test the thread used in the lace.  

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http://home.earthlink.net/~beeson_n3f/ 
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west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
where we've just had our first heavy snowfall.   

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RE: [lace] Lace dye

2005-12-09 Thread Jane Bawn
Joy Beeson wrote
For information about dyes, the Dharma website 
http://www.dharmatrading.com/  is always the first resort.

Unfortunately they do not ship to the UK


I think the dyes are mainly for bought or machine made lace.  This was
showcased in a quilt called the Colour Purple by Jenny Haskins
http://www.ericas.com/colourpurple.htm

I'm a bit old fashioned.  I don't mind tinkering with bought or machine made
lace but when I have spent hours on a piece of hand made lace I think I
would be too nervous to consider dyeing it.


Jane
Hants
UK

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Re: [lace] Lace dye

2005-12-09 Thread bevw
On 12/9/05, Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Came across this 'lace dye'. It isn't specifically intended for lace, as the
 label on the bottle states 'craft dye'.

 Has anyone tried doing this. The effects show in the photographs are
 interesting, but does the dye bleed or can it be made to stay within

There is a little book of clown dolls and similar in bobbin lace
(Kloskant in drie dimensies), which I bought thinking I might learn
something new about using colour - yes I did, but not with coloured
thread - she used  textile paint to get the blocks of colour. If I
would try it, I would buy the inexpensive craft paint used for
stencilling fabric. It is set with an iron, and won't bleed once set.
Dab it, rather than paint it, in place, with a bit of sponge. In the
UK you have a line of pigments for textiles which should be good (and
which we can get here, but they are more expensive than the stencil
paint). I can't recall the name exactly, but I think it is called
Pigma

HTH!
--
bye for now
Bev in Sooke BC (on Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada)
Cdn. floral bobbins
www.woodhavenbobbins.com

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