Re: [lace] Le Puy - was Rescued Laces
Hi there are two books about La guipure du Puy . here's one on amazon http://www.amazon.fr/Guipure-du-Puy-Mick-Fouriscot/dp/2841671550 now of course you know that Mick Fouriscot isn't a lace maker and is the editor of the book . guipure has no ground , only head and foot. it is usually made of silk ... and silk is known to disintegrate with age ,especially if it has been submitted to light .I remember seeing a 19th century dress made of Chantilly lace that couldn't be renovated for that reason . dom from Paris Brenda Paternoster a écrit : Hello Mark I agree with others that the first one http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/Rescued_Beds_tally_lace.jpg looks to be Bedfordshire - I won't say Beds-Maltese because it's not geometrical enough. The second one http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/Rescued_Beds_scallop_lace.jpg is Le Puy. I have several bits of plaited black BL in my collection. Some time ago I spent a lot of time with Pat Earnshaw's and other books to properly ID them, and tI have listed all but the narrowest piece as Le Puy; partly because of the black colour partly because of the distinctive trails and sometimes lots of leaf shaped tallies and mainly because of the elaborate plaited grounds ie Guipure. In style they are all not dissimilar to your piece. According to Earnshaw a lot of black 'Le Puy' was made in France in the second half of the 19th century, and a lot of Le Puy/Clunytype of plaited laces were also made in England at the same time, some indistinguishable from the French. The lace school at Le Puy re-opened in the 1970s under Mick Fouriscot and I believe they teach a variety of styles of BL. There are a number of pattern books co-written by various people with Mme Fouriscot for various types of BL. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
[lace] Le Puy - was Rescued Laces
Hello Mark I agree with others that the first one > http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/Rescued_Beds_tally_lace.jpg looks to be Bedfordshire - I won't say Beds-Maltese because it's not geometrical enough. The second one > http://www.tat-man.net/bobbinburg/BLgallery/Rescued_Beds_scallop_lace.jpg is Le Puy. I have several bits of plaited black BL in my collection. Some time ago I spent a lot of time with Pat Earnshaw's and other books to properly ID them, and tI have listed all but the narrowest piece as Le Puy; partly because of the black colour partly because of the distinctive trails and sometimes lots of leaf shaped tallies and mainly because of the elaborate plaited grounds ie Guipure. In style they are all not dissimilar to your piece. According to Earnshaw a lot of black 'Le Puy' was made in France in the second half of the 19th century, and a lot of Le Puy/Clunytype of plaited laces were also made in England at the same time, some indistinguishable from the French. The lace school at Le Puy re-opened in the 1970s under Mick Fouriscot and I believe they teach a variety of styles of BL. There are a number of pattern books co-written by various people with Mme Fouriscot for various types of BL. Brenda in Allhallows paternos...@appleshack.com http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com
Re: [lace] Le Puy
On Saturday, April 15, 2006, at 05:05 AM, domi wrote: Will I be able to wear the necklace at IOLI ? You certainly will - and any other lace you have made. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Le Puy
Dear spiders As I get the digest, I'm a bit late in answering. My first class in bobbin lace was a week in Le Puy, (initiation 1 = lace 101) The atmosphere was good, I left knowing enough to keep making lace on my own. The classes are only in french. You get the prickings, but nothing else (no written support), so you've got to write down what's told to you. I liked my week there, as I needed to learn the basics, and I got what I wanted. They follow the student's rythm, i.e. if you're a fast learner, you'll complete more in a week, but you've got to "follow the book". Le puy is a charming small town, the Retournac museum is 40 km away, a nice drive for the afdternoon, although the museum is under reconstruction, but there's a exhibition somewhere. I don't know about Brioude. Last summer I spent a week having a class with Magali Deboudard. She prepared her lace certification in Brioude. Again, french only. She gives the classes from her home, in a small village. We were 3 students, 2 beginners and I. Personalized classes. I wanted to make a butterfly pricking from those sold by the Retournac museum, Cluny style. No problem, she taught me the techniques along, does not have a set class program. I left with the beginning of a necklace on my pillow. I've not been very active on the lace front. Will I be able to wear the necklace at IOLI ? Maybe, maybe not, but it's gorgeous, with jet bklmack beads. Hope this helps, feel free to ask more questions. Domi (the other one) in grey Paris Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 05:36:36 -0300 From: Margot Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [lace] Le Puy Does anyone know anything about the courses given by the lace school in Le Puy? Are they 1) any good? 2) available by correspondence? 3) in French only? Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Le Puy
Sof and Alix - thank you very much for the information. I guess the friend that I asked the question for, will have to brush up on her French. Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Le Puy
Hello Margot, My friend says that she takes and took courses in Le Puy. She don't know if the course could be in english. Each time it was in French. She likes the atmosphere. She learns duchesse and she come back next summer in july. Dentellez bien Sof - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] Le Puy
Hello Margot, I started lace with Le Puy correspondence method 7 years ago I think. I don't like very much : confused, old and special codification not with color but with Jourde symbols. I had to learn again and change my terminology too to understand books. First, second and third levels are only exercices. You have exemples in the book : dentelle au fuseau les bases by Mick Fouriscot and Jean Chalayé / éditions Carpentier. I never ear that there is over language but I am not sure. I know stage in Brioude (3/4 hours by car) are good reputation. I know stage too with : Magali Deboudard (center) : http://www.dentelledemagali.com/accueil.htm Florence Quinette (Normandy) : http://www.dentelleflorence.fr/ I asked a friend and wait her answer. Dentellez bien Sof from France Margot Walker a écrit : Does anyone know anything about the courses given by the lace school in Le Puy? Are they 1) any good? 2) available by correspondence? 3) in French only? Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Le Puy
Does anyone know anything about the courses given by the lace school in Le Puy? Are they 1) any good? 2) available by correspondence? 3) in French only? Margot Walker in Halifax on the east coast of Canada Visit the Seaspray Guild of Lacemakers web site: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/quinbot/seaspray/SeasprayLaceGuild.html - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] le puy lace
thanks for the website. it is really strange how many rules were made to discourage lace making. in this day and age anyone can make lace and anyone can wear it. i could never live in that day, and not just because it outlawed lace. i'm very happy to be living in 2005. i am only wishing i could have gone to some of their free lace making classes. how nice of the community to care so much to keep lace making alive, that they offer free classes. they must be really proud of thier history. it's really pretty lace. --- romdom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi suzy > history of Le Puy lace straight from Le Puy might help give you > an idea > http://www.ladentelledupuy.com/uk/i_accueil.html > > > > dominique from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace] le puy lace
le 6/11/05 5:58, suzy à [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Hi suzy history of Le Puy lace straight from Le Puy might help give you an idea http://www.ladentelledupuy.com/uk/i_accueil.html dominique - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] le puy lace photos
i noticed on a website they listed le puy as one of the laces named beds/cluny. does anyone know where this lace originated? here are some photos of le puy. http://www.antique-fashion.com/index.htm?1353.htm~midfrm from suzy in tennessee,u.s.a. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Le Puy and around (long)
Hi All Back again after a great day out in Garrucha yesterday. More of that later However, back to lace in France. Having collected the 'passsport' in Arlanc we discovered that there was another lace museum in Briode which not too far for us to drive so decided to spend the afternoon there. This turned out to be a fantastic treat. In the 70's a local lacemaker, Madam Arpin, realised that lacemaking was in danger of dying out and decided to do something about it. However, instead of just teaching traditional local lace, she took it one step further and started using colour and 3D techniques. Some of the stunning results are on display in the museum, along with traditional antique lace. All beautifully laid out and lit. Once again an assistant showed us round, making sure we didn't miss anything. The museum has a website http://www.hoteldeladentelle.com/ It's all in French but some of the pictures are good (if you find the one of the salmon - it's actually about one metre long). There were actually 2 place to visit, the school and the museum which are about 5 doors apart. There was a gentleman doing a 'bracelet' (made a change from the snake or 'bandage' which I started with) in lovely chunky thread. Apparently he's been in the museum in the morning , was so taken with the concept and that he had signed up for a afternoon lesson on the spot! Brilliant day and long suffering DH actually seemed to enjoy it. Next day and it was off to Le Puy in the morning and then on to Retournac in the afternoon. Le Puy turnrd out to be a bit of a disappointment. We visited on Saturday and there were no students in the school and not a great deal of lace on display. Unfortunately the Atelier Conservatoire National de la Dentelle du Puy-en-Velay is currently shut while the building is completly renovated and it's not due to re-open until Feb 2007. Talking to lacemakers in some of the shops, this would appear to be a conservative date - they reckon it's more likely to be 2009!!! I'll just have to go back again in a few years time :-) The lace shops are real 'tourist traps'. A very tiny amount of locally made lace, lots of handmade lace (probably imported from China) and an awful lot of little 'machine/chemical lace' motifs. The later were hardly ever marked as being machine made and there must be an awful lot of people who buy them convinced that they are buying hand-made lace. Great shame. Retournac is an hours drive from Le Puy along a stunning road which follows the Gorge du Peyredeyre. The day out was worth it just for the drive. Saturday afternoon was definately the best day to visit Retournac as the local lacemakers meet up to make lace within the museum. The museum was fascinating, lots of really good 'information' sheets along with the exhibits, even DH stopped to read them! The group of lacemakers were great, a mixed bunch of old and young including a couple of little girls. My very rusty French got a good battering as I tried to explain Bucks techniques to them (I carried a bucks bookmark to show that I was a lacemaker). Then followed a discussion on Spanish lace (as I'd told them that I lived in Spain) which ended with a demontration of how to do 'leaves' 'in the air' rather than 'on the pillow'. An interesting afternoon and well worth the trip. The shop had all the 'pattern packs' available as well as a good selection of books and other supplies. I was good and didn't treat myself to any more 'essentil supplies'. However, having done 4 museums in 2 days, DH's patience was wearing thin and I had to promise 'no more lace' for the rest of the holiday. If you happen to be in this very beautiful area of France then please make the effort to visit one or more of the museums - you won't be disappointed. Retournac is also closed at the moment for 'works', I'm sure they'll let the list know when it re-opens. Report Lace Day in Garrucha coming later Pam Mattioli formally from Poole, Dorset, UK but now in sunny Vera Playa, Almeria in southern Spain, where the temperature is a comfortable 24 degrees. - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace] Le Puy pillows
Adele wrote: >A couple of years ago I bought 3 'traditional' pillows from a fellow in >LePuy. He has a web site. The pillows have rollers. The pillows are >pretty but toxic to pins! The rollers are made with carpet scraps. >Indoor-outdoor carpet with rubberized backing Please, Adele, can you post his website? I'd like to write it down, so I remember NOT to buy from him when I get my pillow!!! Helene, the froggy from Melbourne Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. http://au.movies.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
