Re: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-19 Thread Bob Ross
You can also use post it notes on a chart.  Recently I bought myself a  
small magnetic board and made a long magnet from fridge magnets.  I  
now use this for working charts.  Unlike the stickies, it never needs  
replacing.


Nita in Calgary on a warm and windy day


On 18-Dec-11, at 2:31 PM, Clay Blackwell wrote:

In my note to Mary Carey, I failed to mention that the single best  
tool I have found to help with charts is a roll of sticky-tape  
made in see-through colors which is like post it notes in that the  
tape can be pulled up and repositioned numerous times.  I always use  
a strip of this to inderline the line of the graph that I am  
currently knitting.  It saves a world of headaches!  Usually the  
knitting shops carry this - it's a must-have for graphs.  It's also  
used by people who do counted cross-stitch, so try there if you LYS  
(LKS) doesn't have it.


Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA

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[lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread Lynne Cumming
 I am currently knitting a lace pattern shawl in this ( Manos pattern 
 annabelle) in natural colour. I started a year or so ago and then had to take 
 on a burst as daughter announced she was expecting next March. The yarn knits 
 up a treat and the pattern is lovely unless you drop a stitch in the lace 
 area. It is one of those make 3 in one row and then knit together so dropping 
 a stitch is a disaster. I did rip out and start again early on. Lace has had 
 to go by the board for a while. Hopefully I'm nearly there now. It's been 
 slow going as I'm struggling with my double vision but I saw the consultant 
 on Friday and hope for surgery in the New Year. 
I have the 'misfortune' to work next door to the yarn shop and the owner came 
in with the yarn samples and pattern to show me. Baby cardigans to make as soon 
as I get the shawl made.

Lynne
Baldock, North Herts, UK
where there is a nice rime of frost this morning and the thermometer reads -1C

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RE: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread mary carey
Hi All,

Treated my eldest daughter - lives in Windsor, Ontario - to some credit at a
local knitting store for her birthday and Christmas - and she is already
knitting a shawl.  She asked me questions I could not answer about knitting
from a graph.  Have worked from a graph on lots of occasions for crochet and
tatting but not knitting.  Yes, I knit but not from a graph.

Did tatting lessons with her once - we both had a copy to the same book and
was able to ask her to refer to a specific page, and it was before Skype too.

I hope to make a baby shawl for another daughter's baby (due April) but I will
dust off my knitting machine for that.  I also have a large spool of pink
cotton to try lace knitting - a machine has an amazing range of possibilities
if one cares to explore them.

If anyone can help with a simple explanation, please email me privately.

Mary Carey
Campbelltown, NSW, Australia

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RE: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread Margery Allcock
Please could any replies come to the list?  The charts for knitting
are a mystery to me as well.
Margery.
 
margerybu...@o2.co.uk in North Herts, UK 
 
 

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 Hi All,

snip
 
 Have worked from a graph on lots of occasions for crochet and
 tatting but not knitting.  Yes, I knit but not from a graph.

snip

 If anyone can help with a simple explanation, please email me 
 privately.
 
 Mary Carey
 Campbelltown, NSW, Australia
 

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RE: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
Dear Mary Carey -

I have knitted for decades, although I admit that my obcession with bobbin lace 
sharply cut into my knitting time for about ten years.  But between the time I 
stopped, and the time I started again, the knitting world had embraced graphs, 
and after following them (or diagrams) for bobbin lace for so long, knitting 
from them was second nature.

I would strongly encourage her to learn to work from graphs, as they are so 
much easier to follow (in my experience), and therefore you work faster.  I 
have a couple of pointers...

1.  You work the chart from the bottom up.  Row 1 is the first row you knit in 
the pattern, and it's read (and worked) from right to left.

2.  Just like other graphs, the symbols used for particular stitches may be 
different from one designer to another, so it's very important to study the 
chart that is always provided to identify what each symbol means.

3.  Since she is working a shawl, she would work the second row reading the 
graph from left to right...  although she is still working right to left.  I 
know this sounds confusing, but with a little practice, she'll get used to it.  
And, in a shawl, it is entirely possible that the pattern is the same from 
either direction, so she could check that to be sure.  

I'd also encourage her to find a friendly LKS... local knitting shop... where 
she can get lots of expert advice.  If she chances on the oddball place which 
is unfriendly because she didn't buy her supplies from them, then tell her to 
move on   they're not worth her custom.  A good shop will encourage and 
help her regardless, because they know she'll come back to them lfor the 
supplies for her next project!

I hope she finds joy and relaxation in her knitting!

Clay

Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA


mary carey d...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi All,

Treated my eldest daughter - lives in Windsor, Ontario - to some credit at a
local knitting store for her birthday and Christmas - and she is already
knitting a shawl.  She asked me questions I could not answer about knitting
from a graph.  Have worked from a graph on lots of occasions for crochet and
tatting but not knitting.  Yes, I knit but not from a graph.

Did tatting lessons with her once - we both had a copy to the same book and
was able to ask her to refer to a specific page, and it was before Skype too.

I hope to make a baby shawl for another daughter's baby (due April) but I will
dust off my knitting machine for that.  I also have a large spool of pink
cotton to try lace knitting - a machine has an amazing range of possibilities
if one cares to explore them.

If anyone can help with a simple explanation, please email me privately.

Mary Carey
Campbelltown, NSW, Australia

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RE: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread Clay Blackwell
In my note to Mary Carey, I failed to mention that the single best tool I 
have found to help with charts is a roll of sticky-tape made in see-through 
colors which is like post it notes in that the tape can be pulled up and 
repositioned numerous times.  I always use a strip of this to inderline the 
line of the graph that I am currently knitting.  It saves a world of headaches! 
 Usually the knitting shops carry this - it's a must-have for graphs.  It's 
also used by people who do counted cross-stitch, so try there if you LYS (LKS) 
doesn't have it.

Clay
Clay Blackwell
Lynchburg, VA. USA

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Re: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread Sue Duckles
Hi All

My 'ten-pennorth' (Old Yorkshire Saying) is that when you are 'reading  
the chart' you have to imagine which way the yarn moves on each  
row right to left on odd rows, and left to right on even rows,  
just as Clay has stated.  Now the way I always remember it is that you  
always have to imagine the knitting with the smooth side facing you,  
now it's easy to work out which way the yarn moves Get my drift??

Sue in East Yorkshire
On 18 Dec 2011, at 21:20, Clay Blackwell wrote:


 I would strongly encourage her to learn to work from graphs, as they  
 are so much easier to follow (in my experience), and therefore you  
 work faster.  I have a couple of pointers...

 1.  You work the chart from the bottom up.  Row 1 is the first row  
 you knit in the pattern, and it's read (and worked) from right to  
 left.

 2.  Just like other graphs, the symbols used for particular stitches  
 may be different from one designer to another, so it's very  
 important to study the chart that is always provided to identify  
 what each symbol means.

 3.  Since she is working a shawl, she would work the second row  
 reading the graph from left to right...  although she is still  
 working right to left.  I know this sounds confusing, but with a  
 little practice, she'll get used to it.  And, in a shawl, it is  
 entirely possible that the pattern is the same from either  
 direction, so she could check that to be sure.

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Re: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread Sue Babbs
I use one of the cross-stitch embroidery metal boards and magnets to follow 
the pattern when using a graph. The magnet covers up the row above the one I 
am working. This way I can see what stitches I should be working into what 
stiches on the row below.




Sue

sueba...@comcast.net
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From: Clay Blackwell


In my note to Mary Carey, I failed to mention that the single best tool I 
have found to help with charts is a roll of sticky-tape made in see-through 
colors which is like post it notes in that the tape can be pulled up and 
repositioned numerous times.  I always use a strip of this to inderline the 
line of the graph that I am currently knitting. 


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Re: [lace] Manos lace weight yarn

2011-12-18 Thread bev walker
Hello Mary and everyone

To add to the good advice so far - especially the row-reading, I use
replaceable arrow 'stickies' to mark the row I'm on, or the stitch block if
I'm interrupted during a row. It is also a good idea to get used to reading
one's knitting against the graph to eliminate that feeling of flying blind.

Some use a 'lifeline,' a spare thread worked along with the knitting yarn
into the row temporarily, and do this every once in a while, then if a
mistake is found, one need only work back to the row with the lifeline
(there are good videos at YouTube that show this, better than I can
explain).

If the graph just seems to be a mess of symbols, use coloured felt pens to
mark at least some of the symbols until used to reading them.

If all else fails, the chart can be re-written in longhand to suit the
knitter although this can be time-consuming.
(I really like following knitting charts!)

Hope this might be of help.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 12:40 PM, mary carey d...@hotmail.com wrote:


 knitting a shawl.  She asked me questions I could not answer about knitting
 from a graph.  Have worked from a graph on lots of occasions for crochet a


-- 
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada

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