RE: Re[2]: [lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-03 Thread Lorelei Halley
Sue
I think part of the problem with facebook as a host is their software
itself. It doesn't encourage lengthy answers. I wrote a whole page on an
unrelated subject and their software said they would make it invisible to
others after 24 hours. I think there are lots of people on facebook lace
groups simple because facebook has so many members. You can reach a very
large number of potential participants because of that. Never might that the
quality of communication is severely limited. Ning has lots of good
features. Its primary limitation is that they want a hosting fee every year.
I have found a way to deal with that, but I would rather not have to.
Lorelei

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To: Sue Babbs 
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [lace] Our mail list software

the text-only format of Arachne encourages more in-depth theoretical
conversations that tend to happen in Bobbin lace Facebook groups, where most
often people post photos of their work and receive comments of praise, but
it doesn't foster long conversations. 
However, I don't disagree with the idea of changing platforms, if we could
figure out how to do it smoothly. My only concern is less tech-savvy members
being left behind. I'd also like to float the idea of an Arachne "Zoom" meet
up - the video meeting chat platform, if anyone is interested.

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Re: Re[2]: [lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-02 Thread Bev Walker
Hello Elena and everyone

Maybe that conversation made it to the list archives. For anyone wanting to
check out Arachne messages history, the archives are here
https://www.mail-archive.com/lace@arachne.com/

> On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:17 AM Elena Kanagy-Loux 
wrote:
 > ...For example, Devon described a discussion that happened once
 > on Arachne debating whether Communism or Democracy were better for
 > lacemakers.

Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of
Canada
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Re: Re[2]: [lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-02 Thread Elena Kanagy-Loux
Dear all,

As much as it would definitely be nice to have the ability to add photos
etc to Arachne posts, I have to say there is something I like about the old
school format of this list. With so many platforms oversaturated with
photos these days, it can be refreshing to be limited to bare-bones text.
Devon and I had a discussion once about how the text-only format of Arachne
encourages more in-depth theoretical conversations that tend to happen in
Bobbin lace Facebook groups, where most often people post photos of their
work and receive comments of praise, but it doesn't foster long
conversations. For example, Devon described a discussion that happened once
on Arachne debating whether Communism or Democracy were better for
lacemakers.

However, I don't disagree with the idea of changing platforms, if we could
figure out how to do it smoothly. My only concern is less tech-savvy
members being left behind. I'd also like to float the idea of an Arachne
"Zoom" meet up - the video meeting chat platform, if anyone is interested.
We had a Brooklyn Lace Guild meeting on Zoom and it was great fun to see
each other. I just hope that during the the global shutdown we can at least
have more discussions here online, wherever that may be!

Stay well everyone!
Best Wishes,
Elena

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Re[2]: [lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-02 Thread suebabbs385
Apparently both Pierre and Dagmar achieved writing an email to arachne!
Yes, it's as simple as writing an email to lace@arachne.com

However as you have noted, we are limited to text (not even French
accents on Pierre's surname come through) and cannot post photos / pdfs
etc.

I have no idea how the transition to another platform would work, so
cannot comment on that.  However I think the list has lost a lot of
vibrancy over recent years as many members now show patterns,
work-in-progress etc on Facebook instead of on Arachne. It would
certainly be wonderful to be able to include photos etc in one's
messages

Sue

suebabbs...@gmail.com

-- Original Message --
From: "Dagmar Beckel Machyckova" 
To: "Pierre Fouché" 
Cc: brid...@bigpond.com; lace@arachne.com
Sent: 4/2/2020 9:38:39 AM
Subject: Re: [lace] Our mail list software

>Pierre, I do agree with you. I wouldn’t know how to start a post.
>How could the transition work?
>Is it a lot of work to move the archives?
>Dagmar Beckel
>
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Re: [lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-02 Thread Joy Beeson

On 4/2/2020 10:38 AM, Dagmar Beckel Machyckova wrote:
Pierre, I do agree with you. I wouldn’t know how to 
start a post.



Send your post by e-mail to lace@arachne.com

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Re: [lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-02 Thread Dagmar Beckel Machyckova
Pierre, I do agree with you. I wouldn’t know how to start a post.
How could the transition work? 
Is it a lot of work to move the archives?
Dagmar Beckel 

> On Apr 2, 2020, at 6:44 AM, Pierre Fouché  wrote:
> 
> Dear Brian and fellow Arachnids
> 
> I have heard that Discourse is currently the most advanced forum hosting
> platform and that it has the capability to import large complex existing
> archives.
> I am equally impressed that it is open source. Things that are good for
> humanity should be free.
> 
> I quite like the charm our mailing list that is operating on 90's
> architecture, but I have to admit that I don't know how to use it. (I had
> to go look in the arachne handbook to see how to respond to this message,
> and I'm still not sure that it will work, or if I got some syntax wrong in
> the subject line...) Which results in my being a "lurker" rather than a
> participator, and I suspect that I am not the only one. A more
> user-friendly interface with the community that is easily accessible,
> easily searchable, with inline multimedia options might be worth looking
> into?
> 
> Best wishes from a summery autumn day in Cape Town where we are one week in
> with our enforced lockdown, and doing well for it.
> 
> Pierre Fouché
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[lace] Our mail list software

2020-04-02 Thread Pierre Fouché
Dear Brian and fellow Arachnids

I have heard that Discourse is currently the most advanced forum hosting
platform and that it has the capability to import large complex existing
archives.
I am equally impressed that it is open source. Things that are good for
humanity should be free.

I quite like the charm our mailing list that is operating on 90's
architecture, but I have to admit that I don't know how to use it. (I had
to go look in the arachne handbook to see how to respond to this message,
and I'm still not sure that it will work, or if I got some syntax wrong in
the subject line...) Which results in my being a "lurker" rather than a
participator, and I suspect that I am not the only one. A more
user-friendly interface with the community that is easily accessible,
easily searchable, with inline multimedia options might be worth looking
into?

Best wishes from a summery autumn day in Cape Town where we are one week in
with our enforced lockdown, and doing well for it.

Pierre Fouché

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[lace] Our mail list software

2020-03-27 Thread brido11
Dear All,

 

Firstly I have no idea about programming or software etc.  This note to the
list is purely based on a discussion being held currently on another list I
belong to (Jackrail; Harpsichords and clavichords) They are considering
changing to a modern "mail list" programme.  

 

I suspect that our programme is quite old by now, so I offer this to those
who know better than me.

 

I am not sure about this following statement so please forgive me if I am
wrong:  "I think that our current list costs money to run and we have a
generous benefactor".

 

I think that "Discourse", the programme Jackrail is considering moving to,
is free. (see below)

 

Next reason is that besides the proposed new software being 100% open
source, it provides for drag and drop photos. (The one thing that made me
stop and think about writing about it to Arachne!)

 

The programme is called  Discourse and you can read about Discourse here if
you have a special interest in it.

 

https://www.discourse.org  

 

With that suggestion, I leave it to those who are far more knowledgeable
than myself to pursue if it is worthwhile.

 

I can put anyone especially interested and technically capable,  in it in
touch with the Jackrail convenor.

 

I share this with the best intentions and the last thing I want is for it
causes a furore in our happy band list users.  We will not be able to
compete with Facebook, but perhaps we enjoy improved features?

 

Like I say, I have no idea about the technicalities.

 

Jean and I are in voluntary lockdown being in the mid-80s + risk group.  All
of you take care.

 

Special thanks to all of you who are health carers from an old "RN" who
worked through the isolation hospital era!!

 

Take care.

 

Regards  Brian

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